STD Tuning Engine Hypothetical: 3.5 litre DOHC straight 6

Hypothetical: 3.5 litre DOHC straight 6

Hypothetical: 3.5 litre DOHC straight 6

 
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Eric78
GT2559V

198
02-01-2014, 02:08 AM #1
Will the om606 head or any other 24valve diesel cylinder head fit the 3.5 litre version of the om603 block?
Eric78
02-01-2014, 02:08 AM #1

Will the om606 head or any other 24valve diesel cylinder head fit the 3.5 litre version of the om603 block?

hansendk
TA 0301

51
02-01-2014, 03:20 AM #2
No the problem is the piston is for 2 valves pr. cylinder and the prechamper is not in the center on the om603
but with custom pistons (89 mm) made for the om606 it should be possible to take the crankshaft from the 603.970 and the conrods use them in a 606 block so you have a 3,5 L engine

or get custom conrods use only the 603 crankshaft in a 606 engine and it will be a 3,3 L engine 87 mm x 92,4 mm but due to the long stroke its not so good for high rpm.
it all depends what you want to build the engine for.
hansendk
02-01-2014, 03:20 AM #2

No the problem is the piston is for 2 valves pr. cylinder and the prechamper is not in the center on the om603
but with custom pistons (89 mm) made for the om606 it should be possible to take the crankshaft from the 603.970 and the conrods use them in a 606 block so you have a 3,5 L engine

or get custom conrods use only the 603 crankshaft in a 606 engine and it will be a 3,3 L engine 87 mm x 92,4 mm but due to the long stroke its not so good for high rpm.
it all depends what you want to build the engine for.

02-01-2014, 04:28 AM #3
BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
02-01-2014, 04:28 AM #3

BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season


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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

hansendk
TA 0301

51
02-01-2014, 04:32 AM #4
sounds like 88 x 92,4 x 6 = 3373 cm3
hansendk
02-01-2014, 04:32 AM #4

sounds like 88 x 92,4 x 6 = 3373 cm3

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-01-2014, 08:30 AM #5
om604 is 89mm pistons. and they have the prechamber in the middle.

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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-01-2014, 08:30 AM #5

om604 is 89mm pistons. and they have the prechamber in the middle.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

mantahead
Holset

600
02-02-2014, 05:21 PM #6
(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q
mantahead
02-02-2014, 05:21 PM #6

(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-02-2014, 09:41 PM #7
(02-02-2014, 05:21 PM)mantahead
(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q

Great videos, I wish diesel benz parts where just laying around like nothing in my yard

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-02-2014, 09:41 PM #7

(02-02-2014, 05:21 PM)mantahead
(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q

Great videos, I wish diesel benz parts where just laying around like nothing in my yard


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
02-03-2014, 01:07 PM #8
Along with the machining tools!

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
02-03-2014, 01:07 PM #8

Along with the machining tools!


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-03-2014, 07:20 PM #9
(02-03-2014, 01:07 PM)winmutt Along with the machining tools!

Hmmmm power tools *drooling*

I would like to see how the Direct injection works out. Thats could potentally increase Fuel economy right?

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-03-2014, 07:20 PM #9

(02-03-2014, 01:07 PM)winmutt Along with the machining tools!

Hmmmm power tools *drooling*

I would like to see how the Direct injection works out. Thats could potentally increase Fuel economy right?


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
02-04-2014, 02:58 AM #10
(02-02-2014, 05:21 PM)mantahead
(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q

Why not take an 320 cdi engine, and swap out the cdi pump and fit a m-pump....Then you have a direct injected engine to start withSmile
EDH_Performance
02-04-2014, 02:58 AM #10

(02-02-2014, 05:21 PM)mantahead
(02-01-2014, 04:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel BlackSmokeRacing anounced 3.4l OM606 for this season

yea, they gonna use direct injection pistons and scania injector nozzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElSsjcUq_Q

Why not take an 320 cdi engine, and swap out the cdi pump and fit a m-pump....Then you have a direct injected engine to start withSmile

02-04-2014, 10:45 AM #11
(02-04-2014, 02:58 AM)EDH_Performance Why not take an 320 cdi engine

do they still have provision for driving a pump?
This post was last modified: 02-04-2014, 10:48 AM by DiseaselWeasel.

____________________________________

'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
02-04-2014, 10:45 AM #11

(02-04-2014, 02:58 AM)EDH_Performance Why not take an 320 cdi engine

do they still have provision for driving a pump?


____________________________________

'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

Duncansport
Holset

526
02-04-2014, 11:32 AM #12
(02-04-2014, 10:45 AM)DiseaselWeasel
(02-04-2014, 02:58 AM)EDH_Performance Why not take an 320 cdi engine

do they still have provision for driving a pump?

There is a drive for the high pressure pump which is situated on the front of the engine.. so some sort of belt drive would need to be made. Not sure of the benefit of all this work though. 606/605 make lots of reliable power when built correctly.
Duncansport
02-04-2014, 11:32 AM #12

(02-04-2014, 10:45 AM)DiseaselWeasel
(02-04-2014, 02:58 AM)EDH_Performance Why not take an 320 cdi engine

do they still have provision for driving a pump?

There is a drive for the high pressure pump which is situated on the front of the engine.. so some sort of belt drive would need to be made. Not sure of the benefit of all this work though. 606/605 make lots of reliable power when built correctly.

mantahead
Holset

600
02-04-2014, 05:19 PM #13
did anyone ever compare 320cdi rods to om606 rods, they have a lot more torque standard so should be stronger or maybe they are completly different.

i like your thinking EDH.
mantahead
02-04-2014, 05:19 PM #13

did anyone ever compare 320cdi rods to om606 rods, they have a lot more torque standard so should be stronger or maybe they are completly different.

i like your thinking EDH.

02-05-2014, 03:01 PM #14
(02-04-2014, 11:32 AM)Duncansport There is a drive for the high pressure pump which is situated on the front of the engine.. so some sort of belt drive would need to be made. Not sure of the benefit of all this work though. 606/605 make lots of reliable power when built correctly.

But no timing advance thingy...

____________________________________

'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
02-05-2014, 03:01 PM #14

(02-04-2014, 11:32 AM)Duncansport There is a drive for the high pressure pump which is situated on the front of the engine.. so some sort of belt drive would need to be made. Not sure of the benefit of all this work though. 606/605 make lots of reliable power when built correctly.

But no timing advance thingy...


____________________________________

'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

hansendk
TA 0301

51
02-05-2014, 08:52 PM #15
the CDI rods 611-612-613 is made for a 30 mm piston pin 605-606 turbo is 28 mm and there is 4.3 mm different stroke on the CDI engines so you just dont take them and use in a 605-606

it might be possible to use them with custom pin bushes but i dont think they are that much stronger and who knows if they are the same lenght its possible but is the block height the same on 605-606 and 611-612-613 engines??? i dont know
hansendk
02-05-2014, 08:52 PM #15

the CDI rods 611-612-613 is made for a 30 mm piston pin 605-606 turbo is 28 mm and there is 4.3 mm different stroke on the CDI engines so you just dont take them and use in a 605-606

it might be possible to use them with custom pin bushes but i dont think they are that much stronger and who knows if they are the same lenght its possible but is the block height the same on 605-606 and 611-612-613 engines??? i dont know

 
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