717.411 information
717.411 information
01-07-2015, 06:57 PM
#1
what flywell can i use?
PedroFerreira
01-07-2015, 06:57 PM #1can this andle 240hp and 400nm? easy to instal in my om603 300d turbo?
what flywell can i use?
01-08-2015, 08:13 AM
#2
and it could work, but it depends on how you drive it. i havent heard that the 411 is strong, but it "could" work.
as long as you dont upgrade the clutch, its probably the clutch that will be the problem and not a broken gearbox.
but i might be wrong
someone else might have better input
This post was last modified: 01-08-2015, 08:20 AM by swampmonkey.
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w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
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swampmonkey
01-08-2015, 08:13 AM #2single mass flywheel, (take a picture of the box and i can help better if it realy is single)
and it could work, but it depends on how you drive it. i havent heard that the 411 is strong, but it "could" work.
as long as you dont upgrade the clutch, its probably the clutch that will be the problem and not a broken gearbox.
but i might be wrong someone else might have better input
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
01-08-2015, 12:20 PM
#4
PedroFerreira
01-08-2015, 12:20 PM #4what material have to use do put a 6 speed gearbox? (w210 220cdi) what fly wheel?
01-08-2015, 08:43 PM
#5
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
01-08-2015, 08:43 PM #56speed is dualmassflywheel, hansebanger still has his as a dualmass, so should work for your power
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
01-16-2015, 10:16 PM
#9
weekest to strongest,
717.41*, 717.43*. 717.450, 717.401, 717.404
id guess the 717.460 is atleast the same as 717.43* gearboxes, or perhaps the 717.450,
the sixspeed 270CDI somewhat along the 717.404.
BMW,
5speed 525tds, 6speed 530tds and strongest 5speed 530tds ("way stronger than the sixspeed")
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
01-16-2015, 10:16 PM #9as far as ive heard, in terms of strenghtness.
weekest to strongest,
717.41*, 717.43*. 717.450, 717.401, 717.404
id guess the 717.460 is atleast the same as 717.43* gearboxes, or perhaps the 717.450,
the sixspeed 270CDI somewhat along the 717.404.
BMW,
5speed 525tds, 6speed 530tds and strongest 5speed 530tds ("way stronger than the sixspeed")
---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
01-19-2015, 05:23 PM
#10
(01-16-2015, 10:16 PM)swampmonkey as far as ive heard, in terms of strenghtness.
weekest to strongest,
717.41*, 717.43*. 717.450, 717.401, 717.404
id guess the 717.460 is atleast the same as 717.43* gearboxes, or perhaps the 717.450,
the sixspeed 270CDI somewhat along the 717.404.
BMW,
5speed 525tds, 6speed 530tds and strongest 5speed 530tds ("way stronger than the sixspeed")
C270 cdi uses a 616 gear box, 6 speed one the insights are nothing to do with the 717.
717 has a problem in the secodary shaft bearing, thats why the 3rd gear colapses. and the other is that to achieve smooth shifting MB uses the gears to slide against each other under TQ. something that is good for smoth shift, but under extreme TQ forces the gears against the bearings , resulting in execive play, prone to failure.
716 has completely diff engenering, i dont belive that any engine will be able to break it , unless it is abused. MB boxes dont hold direct shifting, it is a Conception problem.
fit a 616 , half fluid ATF half W90, clutch shifts all the time and u´re fine for a long time.
regards.
FD,
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(01-16-2015, 10:16 PM)swampmonkey as far as ive heard, in terms of strenghtness.
weekest to strongest,
717.41*, 717.43*. 717.450, 717.401, 717.404
id guess the 717.460 is atleast the same as 717.43* gearboxes, or perhaps the 717.450,
the sixspeed 270CDI somewhat along the 717.404.
BMW,
5speed 525tds, 6speed 530tds and strongest 5speed 530tds ("way stronger than the sixspeed")
C270 cdi uses a 616 gear box, 6 speed one the insights are nothing to do with the 717.
717 has a problem in the secodary shaft bearing, thats why the 3rd gear colapses. and the other is that to achieve smooth shifting MB uses the gears to slide against each other under TQ. something that is good for smoth shift, but under extreme TQ forces the gears against the bearings , resulting in execive play, prone to failure.
716 has completely diff engenering, i dont belive that any engine will be able to break it , unless it is abused. MB boxes dont hold direct shifting, it is a Conception problem.
fit a 616 , half fluid ATF half W90, clutch shifts all the time and u´re fine for a long time.
regards.
FD,
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02-25-2015, 06:43 PM
#14
(02-19-2015, 01:34 AM)soltysrsz hi,
How strong is 717,450?? Marcedes have made any adapter to suite dual mass gearbox to single mass flywheel??
Rafal
got a "pal" that said his 603 was "benched" to about 350hp, and he broke his, and the second he got aswell.
but i have no idea how he drove them, welded diff, and pumping the clutch in third gear probably.
one of the "stronger" gearboxes, but also expensive.
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Sprinter flywheel is the easiest i think, has the width of a dual mass but is a single mass flywheel
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
02-25-2015, 06:43 PM #14(02-19-2015, 01:34 AM)soltysrsz hi,
How strong is 717,450?? Marcedes have made any adapter to suite dual mass gearbox to single mass flywheel??
Rafal
got a "pal" that said his 603 was "benched" to about 350hp, and he broke his, and the second he got aswell.
but i have no idea how he drove them, welded diff, and pumping the clutch in third gear probably.
one of the "stronger" gearboxes, but also expensive.
--
Sprinter flywheel is the easiest i think, has the width of a dual mass but is a single mass flywheel
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
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