STD Tuning Drivetrain 240D Gearing

240D Gearing

240D Gearing

 
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rdavisinva
TA 0301

69
04-27-2014, 09:02 AM #1
Does anyone know if the 240D has the same gearing as the 300D?
This weekend pulled a OM616 with 4 speed manual transmission for a conversion into a 450SL.

We got the shifter assembly for the 4 speed, driveshaft, and petal assembly.
We have a 300D parts car, but if the 240D has different gearing, we still have time to pull the diff out before the vehicle gets crushed.
Looks like the 123 diff will fit right into the 107 chassis of the 450SL.
rdavisinva
04-27-2014, 09:02 AM #1

Does anyone know if the 240D has the same gearing as the 300D?
This weekend pulled a OM616 with 4 speed manual transmission for a conversion into a 450SL.

We got the shifter assembly for the 4 speed, driveshaft, and petal assembly.
We have a 300D parts car, but if the 240D has different gearing, we still have time to pull the diff out before the vehicle gets crushed.
Looks like the 123 diff will fit right into the 107 chassis of the 450SL.

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
04-27-2014, 04:38 PM #2
keep the differential of the 450 if i where you, the 3.46 of the 300d or the 3.69 of the 240d is painfully highreved...

both fourspeed is 1:1 on the fourth, no idea about the earlier gears, but cant imagine they are much different.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
04-27-2014, 04:38 PM #2

keep the differential of the 450 if i where you, the 3.46 of the 300d or the 3.69 of the 240d is painfully highreved...

both fourspeed is 1:1 on the fourth, no idea about the earlier gears, but cant imagine they are much different.


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

rdavisinva
TA 0301

69
04-27-2014, 05:00 PM #3
(04-27-2014, 04:38 PM)swampmonkey keep the differential of the 450 if i where you, the 3.46 of the 300d or the 3.69 of the 240d is painfully highreved...

both fourspeed is 1:1 on the fourth, no idea about the earlier gears, but cant imagine they are much different.

Thanks.. just wanted to know before the 240D is crushed.

Do you have the diff ratio of the 450SL?
This post was last modified: 04-27-2014, 05:01 PM by rdavisinva.
rdavisinva
04-27-2014, 05:00 PM #3

(04-27-2014, 04:38 PM)swampmonkey keep the differential of the 450 if i where you, the 3.46 of the 300d or the 3.69 of the 240d is painfully highreved...

both fourspeed is 1:1 on the fourth, no idea about the earlier gears, but cant imagine they are much different.

Thanks.. just wanted to know before the 240D is crushed.

Do you have the diff ratio of the 450SL?

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
04-28-2014, 11:42 AM #4
3.07 or 3.06 is what it is supposed to have... Smile depending on year

http://mbturbo.com/gear-ratios/

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
04-28-2014, 11:42 AM #4

3.07 or 3.06 is what it is supposed to have... Smile depending on year

http://mbturbo.com/gear-ratios/


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

OM616
10mm MW

572
08-30-2015, 12:00 PM #5
Any update on this project?

I ask because I am looking at putting a 240D 4-Speed in my 91 420SEL. I think the trans will live as long as I do not beat on it. 
OM616
08-30-2015, 12:00 PM #5

Any update on this project?

I ask because I am looking at putting a 240D 4-Speed in my 91 420SEL. I think the trans will live as long as I do not beat on it. 

benzguy
GT2256V

124
08-30-2015, 08:27 PM #6
The transmission from a 240D will not fit a 420SEL or any V8 engine
benzguy
08-30-2015, 08:27 PM #6

The transmission from a 240D will not fit a 420SEL or any V8 engine

OM616
10mm MW

572
08-30-2015, 11:26 PM #7
lol... It won't?? .......... OH!... you must mean as a direct swap.... Tongue

Custom Flywheel, Bell Housing, yada, yada.....

Not my first day lol... Wink

I was curious as to if the OP liked the set up, or if he blue the trans lol... 
OM616
08-30-2015, 11:26 PM #7

lol... It won't?? .......... OH!... you must mean as a direct swap.... Tongue

Custom Flywheel, Bell Housing, yada, yada.....

Not my first day lol... Wink

I was curious as to if the OP liked the set up, or if he blue the trans lol... 

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
08-31-2015, 06:54 AM #8
@OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin
Petar
08-31-2015, 06:54 AM #8

@OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin

CRD4x4
CompoundSuperTurboDiesel4x4!

399
08-31-2015, 10:43 AM #9
(08-31-2015, 06:54 AM)Petar @OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin

The real trouble is finding a good 5 or 6 speed in the US without having to take out a 2nd mortgage. 4 speeds are what are available in the junkyard. Can I get an amen?
CRD4x4
08-31-2015, 10:43 AM #9

(08-31-2015, 06:54 AM)Petar @OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin

The real trouble is finding a good 5 or 6 speed in the US without having to take out a 2nd mortgage. 4 speeds are what are available in the junkyard. Can I get an amen?

OM616
10mm MW

572
08-31-2015, 01:35 PM #10
(08-31-2015, 10:43 AM)CRD4x4
(08-31-2015, 06:54 AM)Petar @OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin

The real trouble is finding a good 5 or 6 speed in the US without having to take out a 2nd mortgage. 4 speeds are what are available in the junkyard. Can I get an amen?

Amen Brother!! lol

Plus the rear end gear should be fine with a 4 speed as it has a 4 speed auto now. I have not compared the gear ratios yet, but this is not a race car. I just want something simple and reliable with as little effort as possible and without breaking the bank. 

I have a similar job in process now for others, mating a Getrag 420G to a M117 aloy, and M119  blocks.

I can get a 4 speed and all the parts for under 200 bucks. Just need to pick a clutch, make a flywheel, and mod an auto bell housing, everything else is Chicken  XXXX lol
OM616
08-31-2015, 01:35 PM #10

(08-31-2015, 10:43 AM)CRD4x4
(08-31-2015, 06:54 AM)Petar @OM616 you might as well go with a 5 speed or even a 6 speed since you're going through all that trouble anyway    Big Grin

The real trouble is finding a good 5 or 6 speed in the US without having to take out a 2nd mortgage. 4 speeds are what are available in the junkyard. Can I get an amen?

Amen Brother!! lol

Plus the rear end gear should be fine with a 4 speed as it has a 4 speed auto now. I have not compared the gear ratios yet, but this is not a race car. I just want something simple and reliable with as little effort as possible and without breaking the bank. 

I have a similar job in process now for others, mating a Getrag 420G to a M117 aloy, and M119  blocks.

I can get a 4 speed and all the parts for under 200 bucks. Just need to pick a clutch, make a flywheel, and mod an auto bell housing, everything else is Chicken  XXXX lol

benzguy
GT2256V

124
08-31-2015, 08:10 PM #11
I don't think the transmission from a 240D design to handle 72 HP will handle the power from a V8
benzguy
08-31-2015, 08:10 PM #11

I don't think the transmission from a 240D design to handle 72 HP will handle the power from a V8

OM616
10mm MW

572
09-01-2015, 08:43 AM #12
I would use an early model iron case trans, but it would be interesting to know what it was actually rated for.

My main reason for posting was to try and find out how it did. I bet it will be find as long as I am not popping the clutch lol... I have known them survive 200HP Diesels very aggressively driven, but they were in lighter cars too...
OM616
09-01-2015, 08:43 AM #12

I would use an early model iron case trans, but it would be interesting to know what it was actually rated for.

My main reason for posting was to try and find out how it did. I bet it will be find as long as I am not popping the clutch lol... I have known them survive 200HP Diesels very aggressively driven, but they were in lighter cars too...

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
09-01-2015, 09:52 AM #13
Don't sweat the clutch/trans, trust your gut. If you don't slam it it will last a while. Case study: me using my 2.5L light clutch/transmission like most people use a fullsize...made it to 238k

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
09-01-2015, 09:52 AM #13

Don't sweat the clutch/trans, trust your gut. If you don't slam it it will last a while. Case study: me using my 2.5L light clutch/transmission like most people use a fullsize...made it to 238k


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

 
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