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11-01-2013, 07:07 AM #1
Instad of linear pump of OM602, changed to VE pump
offroaddieselhu
11-01-2013, 07:07 AM #1

Instad of linear pump of OM602, changed to VE pump

12-14-2013, 05:36 AM #2
start
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12-14-2013, 05:36 AM #2

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12-14-2013, 06:44 AM #3
Om602 GTB2260

This is a "fully rev car" (total tunnnin according to the owner of car)

Look the video Big Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51zCjkS54ns

OM616 VE pump without turbo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6XqCI8Bls

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
12-14-2013, 06:44 AM #3

Om602 GTB2260

This is a "fully rev car" (total tunnnin according to the owner of car)

Look the video Big Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51zCjkS54ns

OM616 VE pump without turbo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6XqCI8Bls

offroaddieselhu

hansendk
TA 0301

51
12-14-2013, 11:06 AM #4
Well first its not a 602 but a 662 2,9 L engine in the SsangYong second the 1 one the picture is a NA model with a aftermarket or homemade turbo/intercooler set on it

my own 2,9 OE turbo intercooler is much faster than the car in the video only with max fuel pump setting and KN filter
but nice project what pump are you using Audi/ VW 2,5 TDI or the older IDI version
what are the power goals and are you getting it on the dyno.
hansendk
12-14-2013, 11:06 AM #4

Well first its not a 602 but a 662 2,9 L engine in the SsangYong second the 1 one the picture is a NA model with a aftermarket or homemade turbo/intercooler set on it

my own 2,9 OE turbo intercooler is much faster than the car in the video only with max fuel pump setting and KN filter
but nice project what pump are you using Audi/ VW 2,5 TDI or the older IDI version
what are the power goals and are you getting it on the dyno.

12-14-2013, 11:34 AM #5
(12-14-2013, 11:06 AM)hansendk Well first its not a 602 but a 662 2,9 L engine in the SsangYong second the 1 one the picture is a NA model with a aftermarket or homemade turbo/intercooler set on it

my own 2,9 OE turbo intercooler is much faster than the car in the video only with max fuel pump setting and KN filter
but nice project what pump are you using Audi/ VW 2,5 TDI or the older IDI version
what are the power goals and are you getting it on the dyno.

Hi,

The 2.5 audi's pump rotate on the oposite direction as this (original) engine.
I'd like about 200 HP. (without smoke)

Offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 12-14-2013, 01:34 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
12-14-2013, 11:34 AM #5

(12-14-2013, 11:06 AM)hansendk Well first its not a 602 but a 662 2,9 L engine in the SsangYong second the 1 one the picture is a NA model with a aftermarket or homemade turbo/intercooler set on it

my own 2,9 OE turbo intercooler is much faster than the car in the video only with max fuel pump setting and KN filter
but nice project what pump are you using Audi/ VW 2,5 TDI or the older IDI version
what are the power goals and are you getting it on the dyno.

Hi,

The 2.5 audi's pump rotate on the oposite direction as this (original) engine.
I'd like about 200 HP. (without smoke)

Offroaddieselhu

12-14-2013, 01:37 PM #6
parts

offroaddiesel

parts

offroddieselhu
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12-14-2013, 01:37 PM #6

parts

offroaddiesel


parts

offroddieselhu

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12-18-2013, 02:31 PM #7
repaire

offroaddieselhu
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12-18-2013, 02:31 PM #7

repaire

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Ksteen2
Holset

304
12-20-2013, 08:17 AM #8
how did you get this to work?
interested in a ve pump on mine to, they make a lot more fuel then the m pumps.

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
12-20-2013, 08:17 AM #8

how did you get this to work?
interested in a ve pump on mine to, they make a lot more fuel then the m pumps.


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

12-20-2013, 12:41 PM #9
(12-20-2013, 08:17 AM)Ksteen2 how did you get this to work?
interested in a ve pump on mine to, they make a lot more fuel then the m pumps.

Hi,

Do you want to know how much more fuel is distributed by V pump than the M pump?
I do this work because I can solve 200 Hp by this pump.
Curtanly the M pump is working well, but I don't do any of it.

Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
12-20-2013, 12:41 PM #9

(12-20-2013, 08:17 AM)Ksteen2 how did you get this to work?
interested in a ve pump on mine to, they make a lot more fuel then the m pumps.

Hi,

Do you want to know how much more fuel is distributed by V pump than the M pump?
I do this work because I can solve 200 Hp by this pump.
Curtanly the M pump is working well, but I don't do any of it.

Offroaddieselhu

12-30-2013, 10:25 AM #10
in take

offroaddieselhu

in take

offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 12-30-2013, 11:09 AM by offroaddieselhu.
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12-30-2013, 10:25 AM #10

in take

offroaddieselhu


in take

offroaddieselhu

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01-06-2014, 12:37 PM #11
ve pump

offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 01-06-2014, 12:38 PM by offroaddieselhu.
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01-06-2014, 12:37 PM #11

ve pump

offroaddieselhu

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01-06-2014, 03:25 PM #12
VE pump

offroaddieselhu
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01-06-2014, 03:25 PM #12

VE pump

offroaddieselhu

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Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-06-2014, 04:38 PM #13
If you ever come to visit Maryland bring your tools and I'll provide the beer Big Grin

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-06-2014, 04:38 PM #13

If you ever come to visit Maryland bring your tools and I'll provide the beer Big Grin


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

01-07-2014, 04:23 AM #14
(01-06-2014, 04:38 PM)Simpler=Better If you ever come to visit Maryland bring your tools and I'll provide the beer Big Grin

Smile

offroaddieselhu

I send you a bit HP

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=550478825012435
This post was last modified: 01-07-2014, 06:46 AM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
01-07-2014, 04:23 AM #14

(01-06-2014, 04:38 PM)Simpler=Better If you ever come to visit Maryland bring your tools and I'll provide the beer Big Grin

Smile

offroaddieselhu

I send you a bit HP

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=550478825012435

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
01-07-2014, 04:04 PM #15
video made in romania
sorin_cel
01-07-2014, 04:04 PM #15

video made in romania

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-07-2014, 04:18 PM #16
Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-07-2014, 04:18 PM #16

Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-07-2014, 04:20 PM #17
(01-07-2014, 04:04 PM)sorin_cel video made in romania

The pump is made by offroaddieselhu (and the turbo too )

offroaddieselhu

first start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVaWvfSXCXs

offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 01-07-2014, 05:08 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
01-07-2014, 04:20 PM #17

(01-07-2014, 04:04 PM)sorin_cel video made in romania

The pump is made by offroaddieselhu (and the turbo too )

offroaddieselhu

first start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVaWvfSXCXs

offroaddieselhu

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-07-2014, 07:12 PM #18
(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....
Duncansport
01-07-2014, 07:12 PM #18

(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-07-2014, 11:29 PM #19
(01-07-2014, 07:12 PM)Duncansport
(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....

Duh... I guess I should have payed more attention...

I'm still curious to how reliable and effecient they are at high rpm

Where did that adapter come from? I'm not familiar with the 602, but it looks factory?
Looks like you could also adjust the timing on the adapter and the pump.
This post was last modified: 01-07-2014, 11:34 PM by MFSuper90.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-07-2014, 11:29 PM #19

(01-07-2014, 07:12 PM)Duncansport
(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....

Duh... I guess I should have payed more attention...

I'm still curious to how reliable and effecient they are at high rpm

Where did that adapter come from? I'm not familiar with the 602, but it looks factory?
Looks like you could also adjust the timing on the adapter and the pump.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-08-2014, 04:33 AM #20
(01-07-2014, 11:29 PM)MFSuper90
(01-07-2014, 07:12 PM)Duncansport
(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....

Duh... I guess I should have payed more attention...

I'm still curious to how reliable and effecient they are at high rpm

Where did that adapter come from? I'm not familiar with the 602, but it looks factory?
Looks like you could also adjust the timing on the adapter and the pump.


What is heigt rpm, and what hp do you want on that rpm ?

offroaddieselhu




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01-08-2014, 04:33 AM #20

(01-07-2014, 11:29 PM)MFSuper90
(01-07-2014, 07:12 PM)Duncansport
(01-07-2014, 04:18 PM)MFSuper90 Pretty sweet. Really wish they made a 5cyl VE pump so I could toy with one on my 617. They do produce a very good amount of fuel, and they have dynamic timing. Be much much cheaper than a built M pump.

Can you achieve full fueling to high rpm? I always heard they had trouble keeping case pressure at high rpm

I would have to say based on this thread about a 5 cylinder 602 with a ve pump they do indeed make one.....

Duh... I guess I should have payed more attention...

I'm still curious to how reliable and effecient they are at high rpm

Where did that adapter come from? I'm not familiar with the 602, but it looks factory?
Looks like you could also adjust the timing on the adapter and the pump.


What is heigt rpm, and what hp do you want on that rpm ?

offroaddieselhu




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MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-08-2014, 11:14 AM #21
I would say to 5500rpm? And 200-225hp

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-08-2014, 11:14 AM #21

I would say to 5500rpm? And 200-225hp


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-08-2014, 11:46 AM #22
(01-08-2014, 11:14 AM)MFSuper90 I would say to 5500rpm? And 200-225hp

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...es/huh.gif

joke ?

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-08-2014, 11:46 AM #22

(01-08-2014, 11:14 AM)MFSuper90 I would say to 5500rpm? And 200-225hp

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...es/huh.gif

joke ?

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-08-2014, 12:02 PM #23
No joke, is it possible with the VE?

I don't know, that's why I am asking

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-08-2014, 12:02 PM #23

No joke, is it possible with the VE?

I don't know, that's why I am asking


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

_siim_
W201STD

21
01-08-2014, 12:17 PM #24
easily

Black beast....
_siim_
01-08-2014, 12:17 PM #24

easily


Black beast....

01-08-2014, 01:58 PM #25
(01-08-2014, 12:02 PM)MFSuper90 No joke, is it possible with the VE?

I don't know, that's why I am asking

It's just a toy

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=555341411218958

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-08-2014, 01:58 PM #25

(01-08-2014, 12:02 PM)MFSuper90 No joke, is it possible with the VE?

I don't know, that's why I am asking

It's just a toy

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=555341411218958

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-08-2014, 02:24 PM #26
(01-08-2014, 12:17 PM)_siim_ easily

Can you explain? I just wonder why the Cummins guys with 14mm VE pumps have trouble above 3k rpm. Do you think they just aren't getting the pumps built correctly?

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-08-2014, 02:24 PM #26

(01-08-2014, 12:17 PM)_siim_ easily

Can you explain? I just wonder why the Cummins guys with 14mm VE pumps have trouble above 3k rpm. Do you think they just aren't getting the pumps built correctly?


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

muuris
OM605

318
01-08-2014, 03:06 PM #27
The problem with VE is that even if you get enough fuel at high rpm, the injection duration is long compared to properly built inline pump. As there's always only one rotary piston, the problem is much worse with 6cyl than with 4cyl. Bigger distributor head shortens the duration, but I don't see i.e. 14mm VE realiable enough for a daily driver.

250hp is still easy, but in practice at closer to 4500 than 5500 revs. Max revs can be whatever you want, but don't expect to have serious power high up.
This post was last modified: 01-08-2014, 03:07 PM by muuris.
muuris
01-08-2014, 03:06 PM #27

The problem with VE is that even if you get enough fuel at high rpm, the injection duration is long compared to properly built inline pump. As there's always only one rotary piston, the problem is much worse with 6cyl than with 4cyl. Bigger distributor head shortens the duration, but I don't see i.e. 14mm VE realiable enough for a daily driver.

250hp is still easy, but in practice at closer to 4500 than 5500 revs. Max revs can be whatever you want, but don't expect to have serious power high up.

01-08-2014, 03:10 PM #28
(01-08-2014, 02:24 PM)MFSuper90
(01-08-2014, 12:17 PM)_siim_ easily

Can you explain? I just wonder why the Cummins guys with 14mm VE pumps have trouble above 3k rpm. Do you think they just aren't getting the pumps built correctly?

The Cummins guys don't want only 200 HP!!!
It is very important whether they use prechamber engine or direct?!
Important the size of injectors and the pressure of injectors.

They want much more hp and for it the Ve pump is smalll inside (the parts of it)

offroaddieselhu

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=243...=2&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=243...=2&theater

offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 01-08-2014, 03:48 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
01-08-2014, 03:10 PM #28

(01-08-2014, 02:24 PM)MFSuper90
(01-08-2014, 12:17 PM)_siim_ easily

Can you explain? I just wonder why the Cummins guys with 14mm VE pumps have trouble above 3k rpm. Do you think they just aren't getting the pumps built correctly?

The Cummins guys don't want only 200 HP!!!
It is very important whether they use prechamber engine or direct?!
Important the size of injectors and the pressure of injectors.

They want much more hp and for it the Ve pump is smalll inside (the parts of it)

offroaddieselhu

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=243...=2&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=243...=2&theater

offroaddieselhu

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-08-2014, 04:29 PM #29
Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like this discussion is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.
This post was last modified: 01-08-2014, 07:29 PM by Duncansport.
Duncansport
01-08-2014, 04:29 PM #29

Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like this discussion is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

01-08-2014, 04:45 PM #30
(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

new project will decide the dispute biturbo OM606 VE pump

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-08-2014, 04:45 PM #30

(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

new project will decide the dispute biturbo OM606 VE pump

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-08-2014, 05:55 PM #31
(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

Not a bad idea, I know they are direct injection and pushing a lot more fuel than these little merc engines

But we have a 354ci Perkins that's runs a modded 330cc roosamaster pump that turns well over 4500rpm and we have had no problems with it yet. I just wonder what makes the difference

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-08-2014, 05:55 PM #31

(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

Not a bad idea, I know they are direct injection and pushing a lot more fuel than these little merc engines

But we have a 354ci Perkins that's runs a modded 330cc roosamaster pump that turns well over 4500rpm and we have had no problems with it yet. I just wonder what makes the difference


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-09-2014, 08:12 AM #32
(01-08-2014, 05:55 PM)MFSuper90
(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

Not a bad idea, I know they are direct injection and pushing a lot more fuel than these little merc engines

But we have a 354ci Perkins that's runs a modded 330cc roosamaster pump that turns well over 4500rpm and we have had no problems with it yet. I just wonder what makes the difference

Is there any turbo on your truck yet ?

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-09-2014, 08:12 AM #32

(01-08-2014, 05:55 PM)MFSuper90
(01-08-2014, 04:29 PM)Duncansport Could there just be a new section called Rotary vs Inline... Seems like discussion this is always coming up every time offroaddieselhu posts a project that he has done with a VE pump.

Not a bad idea, I know they are direct injection and pushing a lot more fuel than these little merc engines

But we have a 354ci Perkins that's runs a modded 330cc roosamaster pump that turns well over 4500rpm and we have had no problems with it yet. I just wonder what makes the difference

Is there any turbo on your truck yet ?

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-09-2014, 04:47 PM #33
It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-09-2014, 04:47 PM #33

It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-10-2014, 05:17 AM #34
(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-10-2014, 05:17 AM #34

(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

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01-10-2014, 03:35 PM #35
(01-10-2014, 05:17 AM)offroaddieselhu
(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu

Nope, it is fixed geometry. It's a pulling tractor, so no need for vgt.
Pump puts out 330cc

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-10-2014, 03:35 PM #35

(01-10-2014, 05:17 AM)offroaddieselhu
(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu

Nope, it is fixed geometry. It's a pulling tractor, so no need for vgt.
Pump puts out 330cc


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-10-2014, 03:53 PM #36
(01-10-2014, 03:35 PM)MFSuper90
(01-10-2014, 05:17 AM)offroaddieselhu
(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu

Nope, it is fixed geometry. It's a pulling tractor, so no need for vgt.
Pump puts out 330cc

700-800 HP ?

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-10-2014, 03:53 PM #36

(01-10-2014, 03:35 PM)MFSuper90
(01-10-2014, 05:17 AM)offroaddieselhu
(01-09-2014, 04:47 PM)MFSuper90 It's in a tractor actually, and it had a Borg Warner s300 based turbo, a little larger than 60mm inducer

Is that an geomatric VGT turbo? (VNT)?
How much fluel distributed by pump?

offroaddieselhu

Nope, it is fixed geometry. It's a pulling tractor, so no need for vgt.
Pump puts out 330cc

700-800 HP ?

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

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01-10-2014, 07:15 PM #37
Not sure honestly, but it doesn't burn very clean. I doubt it is 800hp, never had it dynoed and the turbo is too small to support that hp. But spool up is a big deal for us

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-10-2014, 07:15 PM #37

Not sure honestly, but it doesn't burn very clean. I doubt it is 800hp, never had it dynoed and the turbo is too small to support that hp. But spool up is a big deal for us


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

dekeinsan
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01-11-2014, 04:08 AM #38
Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?
dekeinsan
01-11-2014, 04:08 AM #38

Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?

01-11-2014, 06:50 PM #39
hi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWoEvN9fH8

offroaddieselhu
01-13-2014, 05:04 AM #40
(01-11-2014, 04:08 AM)dekeinsan Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?

Hi,

Your engine is like in the above mantioned topic:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...oad-racing

You only must build a VE pump, and put to it an GTB2260 or GT23v.
Off course I haven't any electronic parts in pump.

offroaddieselhu

(01-10-2014, 07:15 PM)MFSuper90 Not sure honestly, but it doesn't burn very clean. I doubt it is 800hp, never had it dynoed and the turbo is too small to support that hp. But spool up is a big deal for us

HI,

What is the 330cc?
This post was last modified: 01-13-2014, 05:06 AM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
01-13-2014, 05:04 AM #40

(01-11-2014, 04:08 AM)dekeinsan Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?

Hi,

Your engine is like in the above mantioned topic:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...oad-racing

You only must build a VE pump, and put to it an GTB2260 or GT23v.
Off course I haven't any electronic parts in pump.

offroaddieselhu

(01-10-2014, 07:15 PM)MFSuper90 Not sure honestly, but it doesn't burn very clean. I doubt it is 800hp, never had it dynoed and the turbo is too small to support that hp. But spool up is a big deal for us

HI,

What is the 330cc?

01-13-2014, 06:36 AM #41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9c4QgI8jk

offroaddieselhu
MFSuper90
Budget Builder

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01-13-2014, 08:35 AM #42
The injection pump. Göran's 8mm pump puts out 180cc if I remember right, our roosamaster was built to supply 330cc

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-13-2014, 08:35 AM #42

The injection pump. Göran's 8mm pump puts out 180cc if I remember right, our roosamaster was built to supply 330cc


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

01-13-2014, 09:01 AM #43
(01-13-2014, 08:35 AM)MFSuper90 The injection pump. Göran's 8mm pump puts out 180cc if I remember right, our roosamaster was built to supply 330cc

330cc =330 cm^3

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-13-2014, 09:01 AM #43

(01-13-2014, 08:35 AM)MFSuper90 The injection pump. Göran's 8mm pump puts out 180cc if I remember right, our roosamaster was built to supply 330cc

330cc =330 cm^3

offroaddieselhu

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-13-2014, 10:31 AM #44
correct, sorry I should have made that more clear

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-13-2014, 10:31 AM #44

correct, sorry I should have made that more clear


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

dekeinsan
Naturally-aspirated

15
01-14-2014, 04:04 AM #45
(01-13-2014, 05:04 AM)offroaddieselhu [quote='dekeinsan' pid='59534' dateline='1389431305']
Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?

Hi,

Your engine is like in the above mantioned topic:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...oad-racing

You only must build a VE pump, and put to it an GTB2260 or GT23v.
Off course I haven't any electronic parts in pump.

My engine is direct injection, do I have to make any changes about it?
Which parts will I need to change it to mechanical pump?

My G wagen is already chipped and the engine is in very good condition but your accelaration in the video is far beyond it's performance.

I have 38.5inch boggers and 6.17 ring/pinion...
This post was last modified: 01-14-2014, 04:20 AM by dekeinsan.
dekeinsan
01-14-2014, 04:04 AM #45

(01-13-2014, 05:04 AM)offroaddieselhu [quote='dekeinsan' pid='59534' dateline='1389431305']
Hello,
I have the same engine as yours, om602.980 from sprinter in my g wagen for 4 years.
It is rotary pump direct injection electronically controlled.

My aim is also to get around 200hp without electronics And sensors involved.

Is your engine using any electronics with this rotary pump?

Hi,

Your engine is like in the above mantioned topic:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...oad-racing

You only must build a VE pump, and put to it an GTB2260 or GT23v.
Off course I haven't any electronic parts in pump.

My engine is direct injection, do I have to make any changes about it?
Which parts will I need to change it to mechanical pump?

My G wagen is already chipped and the engine is in very good condition but your accelaration in the video is far beyond it's performance.

I have 38.5inch boggers and 6.17 ring/pinion...

01-17-2014, 02:32 PM #46
The next step is the two phase injectors.

offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-17-2014, 02:32 PM #46

The next step is the two phase injectors.

offroaddieselhu

01-19-2014, 10:37 AM #47
the two phase injectors.

offroaddieselhu
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01-19-2014, 10:37 AM #47

the two phase injectors.

offroaddieselhu

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05-29-2014, 04:15 PM #49
it will got a 11 blade billet compressor wheel
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05-29-2014, 04:15 PM #49

it will got a 11 blade billet compressor wheel

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05-30-2014, 04:30 PM #50
11 blade

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05-30-2014, 04:30 PM #50

11 blade

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