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What turbo should I choose for my OM603? (tuning)

What turbo should I choose for my OM603? (tuning)

 
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Flyingwheels
Naturally-aspirated

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09-14-2013, 07:21 AM #1
Hi, I have a 3l om603 to be placed into a BMW E28, I bought the car and engine. After I got the engine mounted in the car and it is running an test drived I have a plan to get a pump whit 7,5 mm elements, an I am hoping to get 300+ hp.
So my question is what turbo chold I have for this engine?
Flyingwheels
09-14-2013, 07:21 AM #1

Hi, I have a 3l om603 to be placed into a BMW E28, I bought the car and engine. After I got the engine mounted in the car and it is running an test drived I have a plan to get a pump whit 7,5 mm elements, an I am hoping to get 300+ hp.
So my question is what turbo chold I have for this engine?

JarrusJenkins
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09-14-2013, 09:05 AM #2
Depends on application mate, if this is just a weekend toy then a fixed geometry turbo would be adequate, something like a HX30 or HX35 I guess, or you could use a chinese garrett copy if funds are lacking, I've got a friend whos running a GT28 copy on his volvo t5 and has done for the past 12 months or so and hasn't had a problem with it, it might be something I look into at the time,

VNT's are a possibility if its a daily driver or even a weekend toy,
personally if it was me then compound turboing would be my choice...
JarrusJenkins
09-14-2013, 09:05 AM #2

Depends on application mate, if this is just a weekend toy then a fixed geometry turbo would be adequate, something like a HX30 or HX35 I guess, or you could use a chinese garrett copy if funds are lacking, I've got a friend whos running a GT28 copy on his volvo t5 and has done for the past 12 months or so and hasn't had a problem with it, it might be something I look into at the time,

VNT's are a possibility if its a daily driver or even a weekend toy,
personally if it was me then compound turboing would be my choice...

Flyingwheels
Naturally-aspirated

4
09-14-2013, 01:41 PM #3
(09-14-2013, 09:05 AM)JarrusJenkins Depends on application mate, if this is just a weekend toy then a fixed geometry turbo would be adequate, something like a HX30 or HX35 I guess, or you could use a chinese garrett copy if funds are lacking, I've got a friend whos running a GT28 copy on his volvo t5 and has done for the past 12 months or so and hasn't had a problem with it, it might be something I look into at the time,

VNT's are a possibility if its a daily driver or even a weekend toy,
personally if it was me then compound turboing would be my choice...



Thangs for the answerSmile

This wil be a weekend/track car, and I want a turbo whitout wastegate, and weld a exhaust manifoyl whit a extern wastegate.

What do you mean whit VTN's? And compound turboing?
I am from Norway, I tried to translate it.
Flyingwheels
09-14-2013, 01:41 PM #3

(09-14-2013, 09:05 AM)JarrusJenkins Depends on application mate, if this is just a weekend toy then a fixed geometry turbo would be adequate, something like a HX30 or HX35 I guess, or you could use a chinese garrett copy if funds are lacking, I've got a friend whos running a GT28 copy on his volvo t5 and has done for the past 12 months or so and hasn't had a problem with it, it might be something I look into at the time,

VNT's are a possibility if its a daily driver or even a weekend toy,
personally if it was me then compound turboing would be my choice...



Thangs for the answerSmile

This wil be a weekend/track car, and I want a turbo whitout wastegate, and weld a exhaust manifoyl whit a extern wastegate.

What do you mean whit VTN's? And compound turboing?
I am from Norway, I tried to translate it.

Tito
Holset

354
09-15-2013, 04:30 AM #4
VNT turbo's have variable nozzles that control the flow on the exhaust turbine. So on low rpm they can get full boost. And when the rpm goes up the angle of the scoops change to allow more flow.

So you get the advantages of a small turbo, and a slightly bigger turbo

Sounds great but they need electrical mapping.

Btw, try searching VNT turbo instead of VTN Angel
This post was last modified: 09-15-2013, 04:32 AM by Tito.
Tito
09-15-2013, 04:30 AM #4

VNT turbo's have variable nozzles that control the flow on the exhaust turbine. So on low rpm they can get full boost. And when the rpm goes up the angle of the scoops change to allow more flow.

So you get the advantages of a small turbo, and a slightly bigger turbo

Sounds great but they need electrical mapping.

Btw, try searching VNT turbo instead of VTN Angel

1911diesel
GT2256V

108
09-16-2013, 06:50 AM #5
i would say the VNT would be the way to go, like a cheap HE351VE. compounds are tricky and expensive. and from the way i understand things, compounds work best for 5-600+ hp. i could be wrong, have been before. but an HE351VE can be controlled by spring and lever to open with the throttle. i have seen it work before on the ford forums. if you can figure some kind of electrical mapping out with them that would proly be best. but its not a must. and besides all that the HE351VE comes off of a newer 6.7 cummins, so its swapped out for bigger turbos and resold on ebay pretty cheap with low miles all the time. and because of that, there have been a lot of people that have used that turbo on many different applications. so there is a lot of info out there on them. when i have enough fuel to worry about a turbo upgrade, i think an HE351VE will be what i am after.

82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]
1911diesel
09-16-2013, 06:50 AM #5

i would say the VNT would be the way to go, like a cheap HE351VE. compounds are tricky and expensive. and from the way i understand things, compounds work best for 5-600+ hp. i could be wrong, have been before. but an HE351VE can be controlled by spring and lever to open with the throttle. i have seen it work before on the ford forums. if you can figure some kind of electrical mapping out with them that would proly be best. but its not a must. and besides all that the HE351VE comes off of a newer 6.7 cummins, so its swapped out for bigger turbos and resold on ebay pretty cheap with low miles all the time. and because of that, there have been a lot of people that have used that turbo on many different applications. so there is a lot of info out there on them. when i have enough fuel to worry about a turbo upgrade, i think an HE351VE will be what i am after.


82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
09-16-2013, 06:57 AM #6
A guy on 4btswaps.com is making a standalone controller for the he351ve. Looks like it'll be pretty neat

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
09-16-2013, 06:57 AM #6

A guy on 4btswaps.com is making a standalone controller for the he351ve. Looks like it'll be pretty neat


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
09-16-2013, 09:26 AM #7
Post some pictures I have 4 e28's right now that is a bad ass swap!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-16-2013, 09:26 AM #7

Post some pictures I have 4 e28's right now that is a bad ass swap!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
09-17-2013, 09:35 PM #8
Check Olefejer's posts in the turbo information thread re: he351. Looks like the he341 is the way to go.
raysorenson
09-17-2013, 09:35 PM #8

Check Olefejer's posts in the turbo information thread re: he351. Looks like the he341 is the way to go.

Flyingwheels
Naturally-aspirated

4
09-18-2013, 03:13 PM #9
(09-16-2013, 09:26 AM)willbhere4u Post some pictures I have 4 e28's right now that is a bad ass swap!

   

This is the car 520i

The black smoke racing engine use holset hk55?
And I am looking for the same type of using for the car, why
do they have so big turbo, and I get the advise of using the hk35. I am asking woldnt it work whit a hk55
on my om603 whit 7,5mm elements? Smile
This post was last modified: 09-18-2013, 03:22 PM by Flyingwheels.
Flyingwheels
09-18-2013, 03:13 PM #9

(09-16-2013, 09:26 AM)willbhere4u Post some pictures I have 4 e28's right now that is a bad ass swap!

   

This is the car 520i

The black smoke racing engine use holset hk55?
And I am looking for the same type of using for the car, why
do they have so big turbo, and I get the advise of using the hk35. I am asking woldnt it work whit a hk55
on my om603 whit 7,5mm elements? Smile

1911diesel
GT2256V

108
09-18-2013, 04:10 PM #10
dont they run a supercharger for low end boost? hk55 would be a good turbo for a compound setup but you need something for low end boost, hence why they use the supercharger for low end.

82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]
1911diesel
09-18-2013, 04:10 PM #10

dont they run a supercharger for low end boost? hk55 would be a good turbo for a compound setup but you need something for low end boost, hence why they use the supercharger for low end.


82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
09-19-2013, 07:13 AM #11
An hx55 is too big for a 5.9l cummins as a single, unless your strickly pulling or drag racing. Let alone a 3.0l Benz.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
09-19-2013, 07:13 AM #11

An hx55 is too big for a 5.9l cummins as a single, unless your strickly pulling or drag racing. Let alone a 3.0l Benz.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Tito
Holset

354
09-20-2013, 05:20 AM #12
Benz diesel rev higher (6000rpm is possible i thought?). So there's a huge flow of exhaust gas. On a cummins the rev's are lower and the flow maybe more, but on lower rev's
Tito
09-20-2013, 05:20 AM #12

Benz diesel rev higher (6000rpm is possible i thought?). So there's a huge flow of exhaust gas. On a cummins the rev's are lower and the flow maybe more, but on lower rev's

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
09-20-2013, 09:14 AM #13
It all depends on how soon you want it to spool

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
09-20-2013, 09:14 AM #13

It all depends on how soon you want it to spool


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
09-20-2013, 04:01 PM #14
the run high RPM cummins tooWink
HaavardPYA
09-20-2013, 04:01 PM #14

the run high RPM cummins tooWink

 
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