STD Tuning Engine Removing Oil Thermostat

Removing Oil Thermostat

Removing Oil Thermostat

 
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Torkey
Dirty Diesel

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07-13-2013, 10:31 AM #1
I'm considering removing the oil thermostat out of the oil filter housing.
The reason I am considering it is because this is an endurance race car and if it failed not having the oil cooler would be a significant issue.
Has anyone done this before?

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Torkey
07-13-2013, 10:31 AM #1

I'm considering removing the oil thermostat out of the oil filter housing.
The reason I am considering it is because this is an endurance race car and if it failed not having the oil cooler would be a significant issue.
Has anyone done this before?


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AlanMcR
mind - blown

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07-14-2013, 09:16 AM #2
How many of these fail, ever?

Also, you may find that the design uses the thermostat to direct flow, thus without the thermostat only a fraction of the flow goes the long way out to the cooler.
AlanMcR
07-14-2013, 09:16 AM #2

How many of these fail, ever?

Also, you may find that the design uses the thermostat to direct flow, thus without the thermostat only a fraction of the flow goes the long way out to the cooler.

poleshady
GTA2056V

78
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM #3
In one of my cars, it failed. the oil cooler never got hot, or even warm.
poleshady
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM #3

In one of my cars, it failed. the oil cooler never got hot, or even warm.

OM616
10mm MW

572
07-14-2013, 03:51 PM #4
Do you want the oil to always flow through the cooler?

I had mine all apart when I modified it for my 201 project. I do not see why the thermostat could not be removed and a part machined up that simulated the thermostat in cooling mode and installed so as far as engine knows the thermostat is still there.
OM616
07-14-2013, 03:51 PM #4

Do you want the oil to always flow through the cooler?

I had mine all apart when I modified it for my 201 project. I do not see why the thermostat could not be removed and a part machined up that simulated the thermostat in cooling mode and installed so as far as engine knows the thermostat is still there.

Torkey
Dirty Diesel

220
07-14-2013, 07:21 PM #5
(07-14-2013, 03:51 PM)OM616 Do you want the oil to always flow through the cooler?

I had mine all apart when I modified it for my 201 project. I do not see why the thermostat could not be removed and a part machined up that simulated the thermostat in cooling mode and installed so as far as engine knows the thermostat is still there.
Yes, we were thinking of having the oil always going to the cooler.
If if failed shut during a race it would be bad for us.

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Torkey
07-14-2013, 07:21 PM #5

(07-14-2013, 03:51 PM)OM616 Do you want the oil to always flow through the cooler?

I had mine all apart when I modified it for my 201 project. I do not see why the thermostat could not be removed and a part machined up that simulated the thermostat in cooling mode and installed so as far as engine knows the thermostat is still there.
Yes, we were thinking of having the oil always going to the cooler.
If if failed shut during a race it would be bad for us.


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OM616
10mm MW

572
07-14-2013, 08:04 PM #6
I would make a new piece to replace the thermostat then, that way the system is working how it was designed to (no surprises), and it eliminates your concern.

The thermostat screws in, and as I recall it took a bit of torque to brake it loose.
OM616
07-14-2013, 08:04 PM #6

I would make a new piece to replace the thermostat then, that way the system is working how it was designed to (no surprises), and it eliminates your concern.

The thermostat screws in, and as I recall it took a bit of torque to brake it loose.

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PORTED HEAD

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07-15-2013, 08:48 AM #7
Make sure you're monitoring oil temp too

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Simpler=Better
07-15-2013, 08:48 AM #7

Make sure you're monitoring oil temp too


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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
07-16-2013, 10:37 AM #8
The oil filter housing I removed from an '85 motor to mod for an engine swap didn't work.

The oil not reaching operating temps is also not a good thing. Were it my car, I would monitor oil temps and make repairs as necessary.
raysorenson
07-16-2013, 10:37 AM #8

The oil filter housing I removed from an '85 motor to mod for an engine swap didn't work.

The oil not reaching operating temps is also not a good thing. Were it my car, I would monitor oil temps and make repairs as necessary.

Greazzer
Superturbo

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07-16-2013, 12:05 PM #9
Here's a dumb question. The oil without any thermostat should reach at least 180-200 F no matter what. If that assumption is correct, then why would that be bad ?

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Greazzer
07-16-2013, 12:05 PM #9

Here's a dumb question. The oil without any thermostat should reach at least 180-200 F no matter what. If that assumption is correct, then why would that be bad ?


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