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VNT/VGT controller options?

VNT/VGT controller options?

 
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TurboWalt
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04-30-2012, 07:13 AM #1
Are there any "stand alone" VNT/VGT controller options? If possible I'd like to use a VNT/VGT turbo on my OM602 project. Is anything available of the shelf? I'd be willing to use a homebuilt solution (Ardunio, etc) if someone could provide a functional unit. What's out there, anything?

Walt
TurboWalt
04-30-2012, 07:13 AM #1

Are there any "stand alone" VNT/VGT controller options? If possible I'd like to use a VNT/VGT turbo on my OM602 project. Is anything available of the shelf? I'd be willing to use a homebuilt solution (Ardunio, etc) if someone could provide a functional unit. What's out there, anything?

Walt

Simpler=Better
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04-30-2012, 09:42 AM #2
You can always go mechanical with a vacuum actuator and pressure valves.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-30-2012, 09:42 AM #2

You can always go mechanical with a vacuum actuator and pressure valves.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

McAdam
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04-30-2012, 12:49 PM #3
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/showthread.php?t=117261

Give that thread a read. The guy seems to know what he is doing.
McAdam
04-30-2012, 12:49 PM #3

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/showthread.php?t=117261

Give that thread a read. The guy seems to know what he is doing.

tomnik
Holset

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04-30-2012, 02:49 PM #4
or:


Arduino controller DIY

If you go for that let me know how it works.
I am not clever enough or too old to solder and get this to run.

Tom
tomnik
04-30-2012, 02:49 PM #4

or:


Arduino controller DIY

If you go for that let me know how it works.
I am not clever enough or too old to solder and get this to run.

Tom

aaa
GT2256V

913
04-30-2012, 06:33 PM #5
Fleece performance sell a holset one for $600.

Here's another "diy" (he ended up making a custom cnc case for a faster actuator motor):
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-sy...oject.html
aaa
04-30-2012, 06:33 PM #5

Fleece performance sell a holset one for $600.

Here's another "diy" (he ended up making a custom cnc case for a faster actuator motor):
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-sy...oject.html

dieseljunky
Naturally-aspirated

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05-01-2012, 02:38 PM #6
IMO easiest way to control a VGT is to just run a wastegate to actuate the vanes and run it off of drive pressure. The Fleece controller is awesome but it would probably take a little work to adapt it to work on anything other than the 1998.5-2002 Dodge Cummins. Unless they have came out with a stand alone controller just for the turbo. It's been awhile since I looked at their website.

2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake
dieseljunky
05-01-2012, 02:38 PM #6

IMO easiest way to control a VGT is to just run a wastegate to actuate the vanes and run it off of drive pressure. The Fleece controller is awesome but it would probably take a little work to adapt it to work on anything other than the 1998.5-2002 Dodge Cummins. Unless they have came out with a stand alone controller just for the turbo. It's been awhile since I looked at their website.


2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake

TurboWalt
K26-2

33
05-01-2012, 02:43 PM #7
Thanks for the replies. The Fleece unit must connect to a CANBUS so it's not a universal solution. Guess I'll have to look into the mechanical solutions.
TurboWalt
05-01-2012, 02:43 PM #7

Thanks for the replies. The Fleece unit must connect to a CANBUS so it's not a universal solution. Guess I'll have to look into the mechanical solutions.

aaa
GT2256V

913
05-01-2012, 02:58 PM #8
They have a standalone controller for the 12v stashed somewhere on there site I think, showed up late last year. Not sure what it requires though.
aaa
05-01-2012, 02:58 PM #8

They have a standalone controller for the 12v stashed somewhere on there site I think, showed up late last year. Not sure what it requires though.

dieseljunky
Naturally-aspirated

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05-01-2012, 11:54 PM #9
(05-01-2012, 02:58 PM)aaa They have a standalone controller for the 12v stashed somewhere on there site I think, showed up late last year. Not sure what it requires though.

I had heard some talks awhile back about a stand alone controller coming out for the 12V's, along with one for the 3rd gen 5.9 common rails, but that was the last I had heard of that.

I would imagine with some kind of boost referance and a throttle position signal you could make that stand alone controller work.
This post was last modified: 05-01-2012, 11:58 PM by dieseljunky.

2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake
dieseljunky
05-01-2012, 11:54 PM #9

(05-01-2012, 02:58 PM)aaa They have a standalone controller for the 12v stashed somewhere on there site I think, showed up late last year. Not sure what it requires though.

I had heard some talks awhile back about a stand alone controller coming out for the 12V's, along with one for the 3rd gen 5.9 common rails, but that was the last I had heard of that.

I would imagine with some kind of boost referance and a throttle position signal you could make that stand alone controller work.


2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake

yatzee
TA 0301

61
05-02-2012, 05:14 PM #10
http://dmn.kuulalaakeri.org/vnt-lda/

looks like someone already posted a link that linked to this one
This post was last modified: 05-02-2012, 05:15 PM by yatzee.

1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt
yatzee
05-02-2012, 05:14 PM #10

http://dmn.kuulalaakeri.org/vnt-lda/

looks like someone already posted a link that linked to this one


1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt

TurboWalt
K26-2

33
05-03-2012, 08:32 AM #11
I found a Fleece Performance Garrett VNT stand alone controller on E/Bay. Weird that I cant find it on Fleece's website. Contacting seller to find out which Garrett VNT's it will work with.
TurboWalt
05-03-2012, 08:32 AM #11

I found a Fleece Performance Garrett VNT stand alone controller on E/Bay. Weird that I cant find it on Fleece's website. Contacting seller to find out which Garrett VNT's it will work with.

yatzee
TA 0301

61
05-03-2012, 08:37 AM #12
this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Standalone-Garre...es&vxp=mtr

1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt
yatzee
05-03-2012, 08:37 AM #12

this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Standalone-Garre...es&vxp=mtr


1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt

dieseljunky
Naturally-aspirated

7
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM #13
Did you ever find out any info on that thing?? I might be picking up a new 6.7 Dodge here in the near futer. If that happens I'm gonna tear this w123 down and attempt to run an HE451VE on her if I can get enough fuel going to her. I'll probably just use a wastegate though and control the thing off of drive pressure. And maybe a pull cable for the EB. Wink

2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake
dieseljunky
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM #13

Did you ever find out any info on that thing?? I might be picking up a new 6.7 Dodge here in the near futer. If that happens I'm gonna tear this w123 down and attempt to run an HE451VE on her if I can get enough fuel going to her. I'll probably just use a wastegate though and control the thing off of drive pressure. And maybe a pull cable for the EB. Wink


2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd - 3600# SD Clutch from Kenny's Pulling Parts - Stage 5 Jammer Nozzles - AEM Intake - Edge Juice w/Attitude - Glowshift Boost, Oil Temp, Trans Temp - Leveled - Raptor 150 - 1/2" lines from tank to VP - Recon Smoked Cab Lights
1983 Mercedes Benz 300D Auto - Stock minus short ram intake

TurboWalt
K26-2

33
05-09-2012, 01:57 PM #14
(05-09-2012, 01:45 PM)dieseljunky Did you ever find out any info on that thing?? I might be picking up a new 6.7 Dodge here in the near futer. If that happens I'm gonna tear this w123 down and attempt to run an HE451VE on her if I can get enough fuel going to her. I'll probably just use a wastegate though and control the thing off of drive pressure. And maybe a pull cable for the EB. Wink

Here is the reply from the seller.
"This product will work with a Powerstroke turbo a Durmax turbo any 30 or 40
series vnt."
TurboWalt
05-09-2012, 01:57 PM #14

(05-09-2012, 01:45 PM)dieseljunky Did you ever find out any info on that thing?? I might be picking up a new 6.7 Dodge here in the near futer. If that happens I'm gonna tear this w123 down and attempt to run an HE451VE on her if I can get enough fuel going to her. I'll probably just use a wastegate though and control the thing off of drive pressure. And maybe a pull cable for the EB. Wink

Here is the reply from the seller.
"This product will work with a Powerstroke turbo a Durmax turbo any 30 or 40
series vnt."

 
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