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w123love
Stockish

354
11-01-2011, 11:58 PM #1
So its official. I need a new auto trans. Last friday I attempted to pull a 180 on a two way street and just barely didn't make it. Nonetheless I had to reverse to get out of there....no bueno. I knew it was going to be embarrassing, but not as bad as what happened.

The car didn’t even go into reverse. Rev up, down, sideways it didn’t matter the damn thing wouldn’t go anywhere. Had to have two big dudes help me push it backwards in order to correct my turn and park.

This wasn’t the first time it had happened, but it was definitely the worst. I had the trans previously looked at, and they adjusted it as much as they could to have it catch and go in reverse. It worked for about two weeks, then eventually slipped back away. It is a 722.3x so that means no external reverse band adjustment Undecided. Not in my best interests to get in there and attempt to adjust it myself.

The other problem is the horrid first gear slip. I’ve gotten used to revving to 3000 off the line, letting off to engage at 2200, then eventually the car starts to move. Then we slam into second and all is well with the world.

So in conclusion I need a new trans. 99% positive its a 722.3x so wondering what my options are for a replacement?

Also side note I won’t be putting it in myself....I’ll have a shop do it.

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
11-01-2011, 11:58 PM #1

So its official. I need a new auto trans. Last friday I attempted to pull a 180 on a two way street and just barely didn't make it. Nonetheless I had to reverse to get out of there....no bueno. I knew it was going to be embarrassing, but not as bad as what happened.

The car didn’t even go into reverse. Rev up, down, sideways it didn’t matter the damn thing wouldn’t go anywhere. Had to have two big dudes help me push it backwards in order to correct my turn and park.

This wasn’t the first time it had happened, but it was definitely the worst. I had the trans previously looked at, and they adjusted it as much as they could to have it catch and go in reverse. It worked for about two weeks, then eventually slipped back away. It is a 722.3x so that means no external reverse band adjustment Undecided. Not in my best interests to get in there and attempt to adjust it myself.

The other problem is the horrid first gear slip. I’ve gotten used to revving to 3000 off the line, letting off to engage at 2200, then eventually the car starts to move. Then we slam into second and all is well with the world.

So in conclusion I need a new trans. 99% positive its a 722.3x so wondering what my options are for a replacement?

Also side note I won’t be putting it in myself....I’ll have a shop do it.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
11-02-2011, 01:17 AM #2
I'd say if you were doing it get a junkyard trans. It's going to get expensive having a shop do it. Most people think a trans is voodoo and black magic and don't touch them so the "specialty" shops charge extra.

What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
11-02-2011, 01:17 AM #2

I'd say if you were doing it get a junkyard trans. It's going to get expensive having a shop do it. Most people think a trans is voodoo and black magic and don't touch them so the "specialty" shops charge extra.

What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

w123love
Stockish

354
11-02-2011, 01:22 AM #3
(11-02-2011, 01:17 AM)dieselboy What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.

Thanks for the info Jesse....i’m right next to the 5 in Mission Bay. The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.

w123love
11-02-2011, 01:22 AM #3

(11-02-2011, 01:17 AM)dieselboy What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.

Thanks for the info Jesse....i’m right next to the 5 in Mission Bay. The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
11-02-2011, 07:38 AM #4
the gods have chosen you for a manual swap. Big Grin

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
11-02-2011, 07:38 AM #4

the gods have chosen you for a manual swap. Big Grin


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
11-02-2011, 10:50 AM #5
(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love ..... The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! ....

No Garage? You don't need no stink'n garage! This is sunny SoCal, do it outside on your back! Big Grin



.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
11-02-2011, 10:50 AM #5

(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love ..... The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! ....

No Garage? You don't need no stink'n garage! This is sunny SoCal, do it outside on your back! Big Grin



.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
11-03-2011, 01:20 AM #6
(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love
(11-02-2011, 01:17 AM)dieselboy What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.

Thanks for the info Jesse....i’m right next to the 5 in Mission Bay. The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.


There's a place that does that down the street from my shop. Never been in there of checked it out before it I've been curious DIY garage iirc in escondido. I have a friend that rebuilds transmissions in San Marcos too.
I wish I had a lift at my place.
I used to work down there and my step dad keeps his boat in mission bay.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
11-03-2011, 01:20 AM #6

(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love
(11-02-2011, 01:17 AM)dieselboy What part of SoCal you in? I have a few friends at transmission shops.

Thanks for the info Jesse....i’m right next to the 5 in Mission Bay. The main reason I’d have to have it done at a shop is I have no space to do it. No room in the garage anymore! I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.


There's a place that does that down the street from my shop. Never been in there of checked it out before it I've been curious DIY garage iirc in escondido. I have a friend that rebuilds transmissions in San Marcos too.
I wish I had a lift at my place.
I used to work down there and my step dad keeps his boat in mission bay.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
11-03-2011, 10:48 AM #7
Want my old trans? (722.315) I think it may have just barley started to flare on the 1-2 shift when hot but the engine was going south at the same time so I was just taking it easy

I'm in Riverside.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
11-03-2011, 10:48 AM #7

Want my old trans? (722.315) I think it may have just barley started to flare on the 1-2 shift when hot but the engine was going south at the same time so I was just taking it easy

I'm in Riverside.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

DanielK
Big Plans, No Clue

98
11-04-2011, 04:09 PM #8
sounds like the band that locks 1st gear in is worn, or the plunger has a blown seal. The reverse problem is probably just a missing rubber grommet on the shifter linkage. If it doesn't click into reverse, it wont go into reverse. You should look into that first. You can force some rubber hose in there or buy the proper grommet for like...35cents. lol

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DanielK
11-04-2011, 04:09 PM #8

sounds like the band that locks 1st gear in is worn, or the plunger has a blown seal. The reverse problem is probably just a missing rubber grommet on the shifter linkage. If it doesn't click into reverse, it wont go into reverse. You should look into that first. You can force some rubber hose in there or buy the proper grommet for like...35cents. lol


[Image: FalkonSig.png]

w123love
Stockish

354
11-04-2011, 08:33 PM #9
(11-04-2011, 04:09 PM)DanielK The reverse problem is probably just a missing rubber grommet on the shifter linkage. If it doesn't click into reverse, it wont go into reverse. You should look into that first. You can force some rubber hose in there or buy the proper grommet for like...35cents. lol

I replaced both of the shifter linkage bushings when I first got the car, had to go all the way to “L” to get into “D” before that! Lol. So I know those are good. What is this plunger you speak of?

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
11-04-2011, 08:33 PM #9

(11-04-2011, 04:09 PM)DanielK The reverse problem is probably just a missing rubber grommet on the shifter linkage. If it doesn't click into reverse, it wont go into reverse. You should look into that first. You can force some rubber hose in there or buy the proper grommet for like...35cents. lol

I replaced both of the shifter linkage bushings when I first got the car, had to go all the way to “L” to get into “D” before that! Lol. So I know those are good. What is this plunger you speak of?


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

Hercules
GT2559V

219
11-05-2011, 02:37 AM #10
Bands are applied by pistons. Pistons are serviceable on outside of transmission These pistons (plungers) have a small shaft that breaks. No need to remove trans. Use bent style pry bar, against body. Ck out before just replacing trans. Good luck.
Hercules
11-05-2011, 02:37 AM #10

Bands are applied by pistons. Pistons are serviceable on outside of transmission These pistons (plungers) have a small shaft that breaks. No need to remove trans. Use bent style pry bar, against body. Ck out before just replacing trans. Good luck.

w123love
Stockish

354
11-05-2011, 11:48 PM #11
Thanks Hercules i’ll check that out as well as research what I can still do outside of the trans.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
11-05-2011, 11:48 PM #11

Thanks Hercules i’ll check that out as well as research what I can still do outside of the trans.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

w123love
Stockish

354
11-07-2011, 01:35 PM #12
Just and update

After some research, I am tossing around the idea that it is the B-2 piston which is causing problems. Apparently the 722.3XX has had this as a common problem, and there was a new B-2 piston made to correct the problem.

This helps with the going forward issue, but still hurting on the reverse problem.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
11-07-2011, 01:35 PM #12

Just and update

After some research, I am tossing around the idea that it is the B-2 piston which is causing problems. Apparently the 722.3XX has had this as a common problem, and there was a new B-2 piston made to correct the problem.

This helps with the going forward issue, but still hurting on the reverse problem.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

chach007
Naturally-aspirated

18
11-23-2011, 10:01 AM #13
I have a trans from a 1983 that has 180,000. miles on it. it ran when it eas removed from a wrecked car in palm springs a year ago. I have the trans at my house in Oceanside only 40 min. from you. I f you still need it . I'll sellit cheaper than you can think. Text me at 760-586-2674 Quinn I think its a 722.3.
(11-01-2011, 11:58 PM)w123love So its official. I need a new auto trans. Last friday I attempted to pull a 180 on a two way street and just barely didn't make it. Nonetheless I had to reverse to get out of there....no bueno. I knew it was going to be embarrassing, but not as bad as what happened.

The car didn’t even go into reverse. Rev up, down, sideways it didn’t matter the damn thing wouldn’t go anywhere. Had to have two big dudes help me push it backwards in order to correct my turn and park.

This wasn’t the first time it had happened, but it was definitely the worst. I had the trans previously looked at, and they adjusted it as much as they could to have it catch and go in reverse. It worked for about two weeks, then eventually slipped back away. It is a 722.3x so that means no external reverse band adjustment :-/. Not in my best interests to get in there and attempt to adjust it myself.

The other problem is the horrid first gear slip. I’ve gotten used to revving to 3000 off the line, letting off to engage at 2200, then eventually the car starts to move. Then we slam into second and all is well with the world.

So in conclusion I need a new trans. 99% positive its a 722.3x so wondering what my options are for a replacement?

Also side note I won’t be putting it in myself....I’ll have a shop do it.


1980 300 SD,recent 1983 motor install. 2005 Triumph Bonneville.
chach007
11-23-2011, 10:01 AM #13

I have a trans from a 1983 that has 180,000. miles on it. it ran when it eas removed from a wrecked car in palm springs a year ago. I have the trans at my house in Oceanside only 40 min. from you. I f you still need it . I'll sellit cheaper than you can think. Text me at 760-586-2674 Quinn I think its a 722.3.

(11-01-2011, 11:58 PM)w123love So its official. I need a new auto trans. Last friday I attempted to pull a 180 on a two way street and just barely didn't make it. Nonetheless I had to reverse to get out of there....no bueno. I knew it was going to be embarrassing, but not as bad as what happened.

The car didn’t even go into reverse. Rev up, down, sideways it didn’t matter the damn thing wouldn’t go anywhere. Had to have two big dudes help me push it backwards in order to correct my turn and park.

This wasn’t the first time it had happened, but it was definitely the worst. I had the trans previously looked at, and they adjusted it as much as they could to have it catch and go in reverse. It worked for about two weeks, then eventually slipped back away. It is a 722.3x so that means no external reverse band adjustment :-/. Not in my best interests to get in there and attempt to adjust it myself.

The other problem is the horrid first gear slip. I’ve gotten used to revving to 3000 off the line, letting off to engage at 2200, then eventually the car starts to move. Then we slam into second and all is well with the world.

So in conclusion I need a new trans. 99% positive its a 722.3x so wondering what my options are for a replacement?

Also side note I won’t be putting it in myself....I’ll have a shop do it.


1980 300 SD,recent 1983 motor install. 2005 Triumph Bonneville.

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
12-21-2011, 03:30 AM #14
(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.

by "lift" do you mean getting the car to the base? 'cause getting a lift at the hobby shop usually isn't too big of a deal during the week, but I've done all my tranny swaps in the driveway or in my garage...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
12-21-2011, 03:30 AM #14

(11-02-2011, 01:22 AM)w123love I’d consider renting a service bay on base if I could get my hands on a lift, but that could be a stretch.

by "lift" do you mean getting the car to the base? 'cause getting a lift at the hobby shop usually isn't too big of a deal during the week, but I've done all my tranny swaps in the driveway or in my garage...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

w123love
Stockish

354
12-21-2011, 10:59 AM #15
Yeah I’ve got a new transmission now so I will be going to MCRD to do the work. I replaced the B-2 piston on base at the hobby shop. Pretty good asset for those who are able to access it.

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
12-21-2011, 10:59 AM #15

Yeah I’ve got a new transmission now so I will be going to MCRD to do the work. I replaced the B-2 piston on base at the hobby shop. Pretty good asset for those who are able to access it.


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

 
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