STD Tuning Engine 300TDT Straight Pipe Install - Parts List

300TDT Straight Pipe Install - Parts List

300TDT Straight Pipe Install - Parts List

 
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jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
08-30-2011, 10:37 AM #1
I've got a local shop where I get my tires that I am going to have install a 3" straight pipe setup for me. They do not have mandrel bends so if like to order all the necessary elbows and bends for them to install. Maybe one of you can help me out with a list of the bends I need?

Another thing I mentioned is that I'll be putting a different turbo in later and need the area where the down pipe is to be versatile. I will likely make the rearmost section where I can drop in a muffler for days when I want to be quieter.

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
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jonbobshinigin
08-30-2011, 10:37 AM #1

I've got a local shop where I get my tires that I am going to have install a 3" straight pipe setup for me. They do not have mandrel bends so if like to order all the necessary elbows and bends for them to install. Maybe one of you can help me out with a list of the bends I need?

Another thing I mentioned is that I'll be putting a different turbo in later and need the area where the down pipe is to be versatile. I will likely make the rearmost section where I can drop in a muffler for days when I want to be quieter.


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

randomdude
GT2256V

106
08-30-2011, 01:55 PM #2
an easier idea would be a dump, thats easier and quicker than removing a silencer.

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
08-30-2011, 01:55 PM #2

an easier idea would be a dump, thats easier and quicker than removing a silencer.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
08-30-2011, 02:00 PM #3
Please explain...I am not dumping the exhaust out of the side as the car is a daily driver.

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
08-30-2011, 02:00 PM #3

Please explain...I am not dumping the exhaust out of the side as the car is a daily driver.


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
08-30-2011, 05:20 PM #4
Less bends = more better.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
08-30-2011, 05:20 PM #4

Less bends = more better.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
08-30-2011, 10:45 PM #5
If it were a track car, I'd prolly do a hood stack, or out behind front tire. Since it isn't, I am going to run it out of the rear. So I just need to know the parts and angles I need.

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
08-30-2011, 10:45 PM #5

If it were a track car, I'd prolly do a hood stack, or out behind front tire. Since it isn't, I am going to run it out of the rear. So I just need to know the parts and angles I need.


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-31-2011, 08:33 AM #6
(08-30-2011, 10:45 PM)jonbobshinigin If it were a track car, I'd prolly do a hood stack


Lemons at least is no longer allowing hood stacks or any exaust dumping forward of or into the cabin.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-31-2011, 08:33 AM #6

(08-30-2011, 10:45 PM)jonbobshinigin If it were a track car, I'd prolly do a hood stack


Lemons at least is no longer allowing hood stacks or any exaust dumping forward of or into the cabin.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
08-31-2011, 08:59 AM #7
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It's going to follow a route like this
Kozuka
08-31-2011, 08:59 AM #7

[Image: 05206453.gif]

It's going to follow a route like this

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-31-2011, 11:40 AM #8
I'd find a shop with the proper tools. It will probably be cheaper.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-31-2011, 11:40 AM #8

I'd find a shop with the proper tools. It will probably be cheaper.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
08-31-2011, 12:03 PM #9
One of my 190E's just had a strait piece of pipe that went from the cat all the way to the back with slight angles so it went directly to the muffler spot. It really depends on how low you roll.
Kozuka
08-31-2011, 12:03 PM #9

One of my 190E's just had a strait piece of pipe that went from the cat all the way to the back with slight angles so it went directly to the muffler spot. It really depends on how low you roll.

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
09-01-2011, 12:15 AM #10
The shop I spoke with made it sound as if mandrel bends are only done from the factory and that regular bends works just fine. I want to go ahead and do it right! Are there shops that are able to do a full mandrel system?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
09-01-2011, 12:15 AM #10

The shop I spoke with made it sound as if mandrel bends are only done from the factory and that regular bends works just fine. I want to go ahead and do it right! Are there shops that are able to do a full mandrel system?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
09-01-2011, 12:31 AM #11
(08-31-2011, 12:03 PM)Kozuka One of my 190E's just had a strait piece of pipe that went from the cat all the way to the back with slight angles so it went directly to the muffler spot. It really depends on how low you roll.

That's how mine works. A 4ft steel pipe from ebay and my first shot at welding Wink
Turned down with a piece of the oem muffler.
4ft is kinda short. Prolly would need like 5.5 of 2.75in pipe

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
09-01-2011, 12:31 AM #11

(08-31-2011, 12:03 PM)Kozuka One of my 190E's just had a strait piece of pipe that went from the cat all the way to the back with slight angles so it went directly to the muffler spot. It really depends on how low you roll.

That's how mine works. A 4ft steel pipe from ebay and my first shot at welding Wink
Turned down with a piece of the oem muffler.
4ft is kinda short. Prolly would need like 5.5 of 2.75in pipe


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-01-2011, 01:02 AM #12
Regular pipe bends restrict the tube size down while mandrel bends do not. Crappy exhaust shops that do everything (brakes, trans, oil change, alignment....) will most likely NOT be able to make a nice mandrel bend while a higher end / specialty exhaust shop will.

Comparo:
[Image: mandrel%20non%20mandrel.gif]

[Image: mandrel_bend.jpg]

NICE!:
http://www.spdexhaust.com/BendsB.html

[Image: Mandrel-bend-90-degree_M.jpg]

YUCK!:
[Image: crinkle-bend.jpg]

[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ4YtXvYUqrZFbzExADHo...PWPTs56GhP]

[Image: wurth_jan_03_bend_exhaust.jpg]



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-01-2011, 01:02 AM #12

Regular pipe bends restrict the tube size down while mandrel bends do not. Crappy exhaust shops that do everything (brakes, trans, oil change, alignment....) will most likely NOT be able to make a nice mandrel bend while a higher end / specialty exhaust shop will.

Comparo:
[Image: mandrel%20non%20mandrel.gif]

[Image: mandrel_bend.jpg]

NICE!:
http://www.spdexhaust.com/BendsB.html

[Image: Mandrel-bend-90-degree_M.jpg]

YUCK!:
[Image: crinkle-bend.jpg]

[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ4YtXvYUqrZFbzExADHo...PWPTs56GhP]

[Image: wurth_jan_03_bend_exhaust.jpg]



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
09-01-2011, 12:08 PM #13
I like what I saw at the spdexhaust site...what I need now is a list of parts to order so that a local shop can weld and install them for me. Mind helping me with that anyone?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
09-01-2011, 12:08 PM #13

I like what I saw at the spdexhaust site...what I need now is a list of parts to order so that a local shop can weld and install them for me. Mind helping me with that anyone?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
09-01-2011, 01:51 PM #14
You just need a 6ft pipe and a turn down both in the right diameter. Then you can aim the straight pipe toward the hangers.
F all the bending.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
09-01-2011, 01:51 PM #14

You just need a 6ft pipe and a turn down both in the right diameter. Then you can aim the straight pipe toward the hangers.
F all the bending.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

randomdude
GT2256V

106
09-01-2011, 01:57 PM #15
any decent shop can do mandrel. at least the good ones around here do it.

and by dump i meant one of those little Y's you put in the exhaust somewhere around the front and you just reach under the car and take a cap off one side of the Y. so you can put the cap on and run a system with the muffler for DD duty, and then take the cap off and its a straight dump out the side. pretty cheap and much easier than removing a rear section setup.
This post was last modified: 09-01-2011, 01:59 PM by randomdude.

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
09-01-2011, 01:57 PM #15

any decent shop can do mandrel. at least the good ones around here do it.

and by dump i meant one of those little Y's you put in the exhaust somewhere around the front and you just reach under the car and take a cap off one side of the Y. so you can put the cap on and run a system with the muffler for DD duty, and then take the cap off and its a straight dump out the side. pretty cheap and much easier than removing a rear section setup.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

 
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