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randomdude
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06-22-2011, 07:23 PM #1
so i guess if i'm shootn for power/efficency i should address the mani's. so what are the best "bang for buck" mani's? both IN and EX? unless you all have other ideas, like stockers that will flow just as well?

ANY input is appreciated Big Grin

P.S. how can i have my avatar title changed??? I HAVE TWO TURBO CARS IN MY SIG LOL. im clearly no N/A guy lol.
This post was last modified: 06-22-2011, 07:24 PM by randomdude.

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randomdude
06-22-2011, 07:23 PM #1

so i guess if i'm shootn for power/efficency i should address the mani's. so what are the best "bang for buck" mani's? both IN and EX? unless you all have other ideas, like stockers that will flow just as well?

ANY input is appreciated Big Grin

P.S. how can i have my avatar title changed??? I HAVE TWO TURBO CARS IN MY SIG LOL. im clearly no N/A guy lol.


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larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
06-22-2011, 07:37 PM #2
You have to keep posting Wink

I think there are some good intakes but for exhaust you'll need to weld one up.
I could be wrong, wait for some of these old mbz experts to chime in.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
06-22-2011, 07:37 PM #2

You have to keep posting Wink

I think there are some good intakes but for exhaust you'll need to weld one up.
I could be wrong, wait for some of these old mbz experts to chime in.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

led-panzer
Holset

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06-22-2011, 08:15 PM #3
As far as intake manifolds, the best you could get would be the w115 manifold, exaust would be from the turbo models before they started adding the EGR, the 78 and 79 SD.

1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-22-2011, 08:15 PM #3

As far as intake manifolds, the best you could get would be the w115 manifold, exaust would be from the turbo models before they started adding the EGR, the 78 and 79 SD.


1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
06-22-2011, 08:45 PM #4
(06-22-2011, 08:15 PM)led-panzer As far as intake manifolds, the best you could get would be the w115 manifold, exaust would be from the turbo models before they started adding the EGR, the 78 and 79 SD.
X2- and if you can coat (like jet hot)the exhaust to keep the heat in (and gases flowing faster) it's about the best you'll get until you go custom.

This post was last modified: 06-22-2011, 08:45 PM by MTUPower.

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
06-22-2011, 08:45 PM #4

(06-22-2011, 08:15 PM)led-panzer As far as intake manifolds, the best you could get would be the w115 manifold, exaust would be from the turbo models before they started adding the EGR, the 78 and 79 SD.
X2- and if you can coat (like jet hot)the exhaust to keep the heat in (and gases flowing faster) it's about the best you'll get until you go custom.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

dieselboy
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680
06-22-2011, 09:49 PM #5
I have a non egr exhaust manifold and a modified w115 intake manifold on my car.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
06-22-2011, 09:49 PM #5

I have a non egr exhaust manifold and a modified w115 intake manifold on my car.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
06-23-2011, 08:14 AM #6
(06-22-2011, 09:49 PM)dieselboy I have a non egr exhaust manifold and a modified w115 intake manifold on my car.
While I have the stronger/better non egr exhaust that is coated- I gotta ask- how much does the long runner intake seem to help?

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
06-23-2011, 08:14 AM #6

(06-22-2011, 09:49 PM)dieselboy I have a non egr exhaust manifold and a modified w115 intake manifold on my car.
While I have the stronger/better non egr exhaust that is coated- I gotta ask- how much does the long runner intake seem to help?


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
06-23-2011, 09:57 AM #7
You can put in a custom title in you user cp

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
06-23-2011, 09:57 AM #7

You can put in a custom title in you user cp


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-23-2011, 03:57 PM #8
im going to delete the egr with a kit someone sells. are there other benefits to getting the actual non egr manifold?

would i be better off to do a log mani? is there kits for them?

how much to get a modded IN mani like yours?

are there any benefits to be had by P&P these stockers?
This post was last modified: 06-23-2011, 03:58 PM by randomdude.

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randomdude
06-23-2011, 03:57 PM #8

im going to delete the egr with a kit someone sells. are there other benefits to getting the actual non egr manifold?

would i be better off to do a log mani? is there kits for them?

how much to get a modded IN mani like yours?

are there any benefits to be had by P&P these stockers?


cars? what cars? WHERE???

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
06-23-2011, 04:11 PM #9
Yes, the non EGR exhaust manifold is said to flow better than the EGR version.

The W115 is basically a log manifold and should provide better low end torque

You can get them at the junkyard if your lucky and spot one


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
06-23-2011, 04:11 PM #9

Yes, the non EGR exhaust manifold is said to flow better than the EGR version.

The W115 is basically a log manifold and should provide better low end torque

You can get them at the junkyard if your lucky and spot one



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-24-2011, 04:48 PM #10
so does anyone do log/tube manis for these? i bet your lookin at BIG $$$ since like 12 people in the world mod these lol.

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randomdude
06-24-2011, 04:48 PM #10

so does anyone do log/tube manis for these? i bet your lookin at BIG $$$ since like 12 people in the world mod these lol.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-24-2011, 08:15 PM #11
anybody got a non egr to sell?

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randomdude
06-24-2011, 08:15 PM #11

anybody got a non egr to sell?


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dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
06-24-2011, 11:12 PM #12
(06-23-2011, 04:11 PM)Captain America Yes, the non EGR exhaust manifold is said to flow better than the EGR version.

The W115 is basically a log manifold and should provide better low end torque

You can get them at the junkyard if your lucky and spot one



Think I lost bottom end with the w115 manifold.

And the non egr exhaust manifold keeps 4-5 separated to the collector and the egr one doesn't.

Im going to the jy tomorrow if there is a non egr exhaust mani I'll snag it. I've had good luck finding those. Got 4 so far but the w115 manifold I've only ever found and seen one.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
06-24-2011, 11:12 PM #12

(06-23-2011, 04:11 PM)Captain America Yes, the non EGR exhaust manifold is said to flow better than the EGR version.

The W115 is basically a log manifold and should provide better low end torque

You can get them at the junkyard if your lucky and spot one



Think I lost bottom end with the w115 manifold.

And the non egr exhaust manifold keeps 4-5 separated to the collector and the egr one doesn't.

Im going to the jy tomorrow if there is a non egr exhaust mani I'll snag it. I've had good luck finding those. Got 4 so far but the w115 manifold I've only ever found and seen one.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-25-2011, 02:30 PM #13
so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-25-2011, 02:30 PM #13

so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?


cars? what cars? WHERE???

mantahead
Holset

600
06-25-2011, 02:50 PM #14
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

mantahead
06-25-2011, 02:50 PM #14

(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
06-25-2011, 04:07 PM #15
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?

There was only 1 non egr car there and it was the one I took the manifolds off of last time.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
06-25-2011, 04:07 PM #15

(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?

There was only 1 non egr car there and it was the one I took the manifolds off of last time.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-25-2011, 07:46 PM #16
dieselboy- what about my second Q?

mantahead- VERY nice to hear/know. what were your other modifications? (interals, trans, what size IP element, etc)

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randomdude
06-25-2011, 07:46 PM #16

dieselboy- what about my second Q?

mantahead- VERY nice to hear/know. what were your other modifications? (interals, trans, what size IP element, etc)


cars? what cars? WHERE???

mantahead
Holset

600
06-26-2011, 05:38 AM #17



mantahead- VERY nice to hear/know. what were your other modifications? (interals, trans, what size IP element, etc)


[/quote]hi, i have used Toms 7.5mm elements, standard internals, modified 6 cyclinder inlet manifold, 5 puk paddle clutch and welded diff.

mantahead
06-26-2011, 05:38 AM #17




mantahead- VERY nice to hear/know. what were your other modifications? (interals, trans, what size IP element, etc)


[/quote]hi, i have used Toms 7.5mm elements, standard internals, modified 6 cyclinder inlet manifold, 5 puk paddle clutch and welded diff.

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-26-2011, 02:36 PM #18
could you supply pics of the mani please?

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randomdude
06-26-2011, 02:36 PM #18

could you supply pics of the mani please?


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DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-26-2011, 11:19 PM #19
FYI for pictures.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=1694



I wish the picture links were fixed.... Moderators?

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This post was last modified: 06-26-2011, 11:19 PM by DeliveryValve.

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DeliveryValve
06-26-2011, 11:19 PM #19

FYI for pictures.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=1694



I wish the picture links were fixed.... Moderators?

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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-28-2011, 01:49 AM #20
DV- ive read that thread SEVERAL times. i was hoping that mantahead could show us pics of his modified mani.

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randomdude
06-28-2011, 01:49 AM #20

DV- ive read that thread SEVERAL times. i was hoping that mantahead could show us pics of his modified mani.


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mantahead
Holset

600
07-25-2011, 07:05 PM #21
(06-28-2011, 01:49 AM)randomdude DV- ive read that thread SEVERAL times. i was hoping that mantahead could show us pics of his modified mani.

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc46...20Uploads/

This is a link to my manifold extension pipe.
mantahead
07-25-2011, 07:05 PM #21

(06-28-2011, 01:49 AM)randomdude DV- ive read that thread SEVERAL times. i was hoping that mantahead could show us pics of his modified mani.

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc46...20Uploads/

This is a link to my manifold extension pipe.

randomdude
GT2256V

106
07-26-2011, 12:57 PM #22
(06-25-2011, 02:50 PM)mantahead
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

any pics of they mani you mentioned above?

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
07-26-2011, 12:57 PM #22

(06-25-2011, 02:50 PM)mantahead
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

any pics of they mani you mentioned above?


cars? what cars? WHERE???

mantahead
Holset

600
07-26-2011, 05:35 PM #23
(07-26-2011, 12:57 PM)randomdude
(06-25-2011, 02:50 PM)mantahead
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

any pics of they mani you mentioned above?
Did that last link work ok? I'm not that great at this kind of thing. That was the pipe between manifold and hx35. I have a 20mm spacer between this pipe and turbo which is to allow for quick spool valve.
http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/

This shows the hx35 on the engine, extension pipe and original manifold
and 20mm spacer.

mantahead
07-26-2011, 05:35 PM #23

(07-26-2011, 12:57 PM)randomdude
(06-25-2011, 02:50 PM)mantahead
(06-25-2011, 02:30 PM)randomdude so if you find a nonegr how much would you want for it shipped? so do you think it was not worth getting the 115 mani?
hi guys, i am running a standard om605 egr ex manifold with the turbo side bored out bigger and i used black iron bends to extend the manifold and welded a flange and mounted the hx35 up front beside the rocker cover. This is a cheap ass manifold and has run 368 hp with 426 ft lb torque.

any pics of they mani you mentioned above?
Did that last link work ok? I'm not that great at this kind of thing. That was the pipe between manifold and hx35. I have a 20mm spacer between this pipe and turbo which is to allow for quick spool valve.
http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/

This shows the hx35 on the engine, extension pipe and original manifold
and 20mm spacer.

randomdude
GT2256V

106
07-28-2011, 09:09 AM #24
ok cool, now i gotcha. ya, that worked. ya, i'm not that great at that kind of thing either lol. i'm pretty suprised a stock EX mani supported 426 ftlb's, you think you would gain much from a custom/log manifold?

lots of guys run log mani's on the volvos, i dont see many in the mbz world.

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randomdude
07-28-2011, 09:09 AM #24

ok cool, now i gotcha. ya, that worked. ya, i'm not that great at that kind of thing either lol. i'm pretty suprised a stock EX mani supported 426 ftlb's, you think you would gain much from a custom/log manifold?

lots of guys run log mani's on the volvos, i dont see many in the mbz world.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

mantahead
Holset

600
07-28-2011, 07:05 PM #25
(07-28-2011, 09:09 AM)randomdude ok cool, now i gotcha. ya, that worked. ya, i'm not that great at that kind of thing either lol. i'm pretty suprised a stock EX mani supported 426 ftlb's, you think you would gain much from a custom/log manifold?

lots of guys run log mani's on the volvos, i dont see many in the mbz world.
hi,
i think my manifold is not holding me back much yet but it won't be long.
My ecu is cutting fuel at 4900rpm but revs to 5500. Now i will try same manifold with mechanical pump.
I would like to make a new manifold soon. Do you know where i can get a 12cm housing for my holset hx35?
I would like to get 400hp on this manifold.
mantahead
07-28-2011, 07:05 PM #25

(07-28-2011, 09:09 AM)randomdude ok cool, now i gotcha. ya, that worked. ya, i'm not that great at that kind of thing either lol. i'm pretty suprised a stock EX mani supported 426 ftlb's, you think you would gain much from a custom/log manifold?

lots of guys run log mani's on the volvos, i dont see many in the mbz world.
hi,
i think my manifold is not holding me back much yet but it won't be long.
My ecu is cutting fuel at 4900rpm but revs to 5500. Now i will try same manifold with mechanical pump.
I would like to make a new manifold soon. Do you know where i can get a 12cm housing for my holset hx35?
I would like to get 400hp on this manifold.

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
07-29-2011, 07:22 AM #26
I have a NON-EGR intake manifold from a 1979 300SD, W116. I am willing to sell it for $40 plus shipping. It's light, so shipping should be around $10 or so. I am still lookiing for a W115 intake, however, so that is why I am selling. PM me if you're interested. Thanks.

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Greazzer
07-29-2011, 07:22 AM #26

I have a NON-EGR intake manifold from a 1979 300SD, W116. I am willing to sell it for $40 plus shipping. It's light, so shipping should be around $10 or so. I am still lookiing for a W115 intake, however, so that is why I am selling. PM me if you're interested. Thanks.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

 
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