decision time - oil coolers necessary?
decision time - oil coolers necessary?
03-23-2011, 05:41 PM
#1
Other then reduced oil capacity...are there any other issues I may encounter in a non-autobahn continent?
thanks,
manny
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Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
currently working on oil-lines, and have started wondering if the stock oil-cooler is really necessary?
Other then reduced oil capacity...are there any other issues I may encounter in a non-autobahn continent?
thanks,
manny
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
03-23-2011, 06:53 PM
#3
Ed
yankneck696
03-23-2011, 06:53 PM #3With the turbo, I would keep it. Cheap insurance for a pricey project you have there.
Ed
03-23-2011, 08:26 PM
#4
(03-23-2011, 05:41 PM)mr_manny currently working on oil-lines, and have started wondering if the stock oil-cooler is really necessary?
Absolutely. Oil is the primary cooling medium of the engine's pistons and lower half.
ForcedInduction
03-23-2011, 08:26 PM
#4
(03-23-2011, 05:41 PM)mr_manny currently working on oil-lines, and have started wondering if the stock oil-cooler is really necessary?
Absolutely. Oil is the primary cooling medium of the engine's pistons and lower half.
03-26-2011, 06:00 PM
#5
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
No doubt you need oil cooler, the bigger the better and please use cooler with thermostat
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
03-26-2011, 10:28 PM
#7
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-26-2011, 10:28 PM #7and turbo happy!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
03-28-2011, 03:33 PM
#9
(03-28-2011, 02:35 AM)ForcedInduction The oil needs to be over 100*c to boil out moisture.
I can attribute to that!
On that note... My 300 with the toasted head gasket (and hydro-locking #2 cylinder) One time after I cranked the water out of the glowplug hole and got her started, I went to get some lunch with a buddy. Pulled up to Jack in your ass and left the car running right in front of the door. CCV hose went straight to the ground and had a jet of steam (5/8" hose) coming out of it.... Some black lady said something like "Why is that car steaming so much?" My buddy replied with "Oh, that car is hydrogen powered..." She believed him!
This post was last modified: 03-28-2011, 03:34 PM by Captain America.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
03-28-2011, 03:33 PM #9(03-28-2011, 02:35 AM)ForcedInduction The oil needs to be over 100*c to boil out moisture.
I can attribute to that!
On that note... My 300 with the toasted head gasket (and hydro-locking #2 cylinder) One time after I cranked the water out of the glowplug hole and got her started, I went to get some lunch with a buddy. Pulled up to Jack in your ass and left the car running right in front of the door. CCV hose went straight to the ground and had a jet of steam (5/8" hose) coming out of it.... Some black lady said something like "Why is that car steaming so much?" My buddy replied with "Oh, that car is hydrogen powered..." She believed him!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
03-28-2011, 07:20 PM
#10
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03-28-2011, 07:20 PM
#10
Yeah, I get "whats that hose" quite a bit. I think the looks are worth it to keep oil out of the intake.
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03-29-2011, 01:56 AM
#11
This post was last modified: 03-29-2011, 02:00 AM by Captain America.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
03-29-2011, 01:56 AM #11Ahhh yes. With mine, I routed it to the drivers side between the lines right at the PS box and loosely secured it to the brake rod. It doesn't hang quite as low as yours
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
03-29-2011, 02:19 AM
#12
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
Mines on the drivers side down low too but I hardly ever get anything out of it.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
03-29-2011, 03:40 PM
#13
vs
Benefits with turbo/motor longevity gained from the oil-cooler.
keeping the cooler
thanks for the replies...
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
Deleting the oil-cooler to provide for a Cleaner Install and eliminate potential oil leaks associated with lines/oil-cooler in the future.
vs
Benefits with turbo/motor longevity gained from the oil-cooler.
keeping the cooler
thanks for the replies...
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
04-03-2011, 05:40 PM
#14
![[Image: oil-01.jpg]](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/oil-01.jpg)
![[Image: oil-02.jpg]](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/oil-02.jpg)
decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
oil cooler is back
decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
04-04-2011, 02:03 AM
#15
(04-03-2011, 05:40 PM)mr_manny oil cooler is back
decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
where did you get the remote filter bracket (engine side) or is that a custom part? Im looking into doing the remote mount setup yours looks super clean
(04-03-2011, 05:40 PM)mr_manny oil cooler is back
decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
where did you get the remote filter bracket (engine side) or is that a custom part? Im looking into doing the remote mount setup yours looks super clean
04-04-2011, 07:30 AM
#16
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...ion-plates
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
you mean this part?
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...ion-plates
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
04-04-2011, 08:39 AM
#17
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...8#pid22268
@$25 I would have purchased one from 300D50...if they were available :p
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
made the adapter out of 1/2 aluminum:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...8#pid22268
@$25 I would have purchased one from 300D50...if they were available :p
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
04-05-2011, 10:49 AM
#19
(04-04-2011, 03:10 PM)4rnnr33 Yep thats exactly what I needed thanks
What are you guys running for a thermostat just trying to decide which one to get
I'm going to be running this one:
![[Image: 25011_126_detail.jpg]](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/25011_126_detail.jpg)
This Billet Style Cast Aluminum Fluid Control Thermostat with 1/2” NPT ports allows the oil to bypass the cooler until it reaches 180°F at which point the internal thermostatic valve closes allowing 95% of the oil through the cooler. This process allows the engine/transmission to achieve the ideal operating temperature quicker before passing the oil through the cooler. At temps below 180°F the valve is open, with 90% of the oil bypassing the cooler. The remaining 10% of the oil flows through the cooler, maintaining constant system pressure, preventing air pockets and eliminating cold oil shock.
The unit can be rotated 180° to change flow direction.
Perfrect for all-season climates
Flow: 20 gpm
Rated to 200 psi
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
(04-04-2011, 03:10 PM)4rnnr33 Yep thats exactly what I needed thanks
What are you guys running for a thermostat just trying to decide which one to get
I'm going to be running this one:
This Billet Style Cast Aluminum Fluid Control Thermostat with 1/2” NPT ports allows the oil to bypass the cooler until it reaches 180°F at which point the internal thermostatic valve closes allowing 95% of the oil through the cooler. This process allows the engine/transmission to achieve the ideal operating temperature quicker before passing the oil through the cooler. At temps below 180°F the valve is open, with 90% of the oil bypassing the cooler. The remaining 10% of the oil flows through the cooler, maintaining constant system pressure, preventing air pockets and eliminating cold oil shock.
The unit can be rotated 180° to change flow direction.
Perfrect for all-season climates
Flow: 20 gpm
Rated to 200 psi
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
04-05-2011, 01:14 PM
#20
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
04-05-2011, 03:08 PM
#22
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
04-05-2011, 03:48 PM
#23
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
04-05-2011, 03:48 PM #23Cooking water is a must!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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