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decision time - oil coolers necessary? - mr_manny - 03-23-2011
currently working on oil-lines, and have started wondering if the stock oil-cooler is really necessary?
Other then reduced oil capacity...are there any other issues I may encounter in a non-autobahn continent?
thanks,
manny
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RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - aaa - 03-23-2011
There were factory euro 240d's that didn't come with it.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - yankneck696 - 03-23-2011
With the turbo, I would keep it. Cheap insurance for a pricey project you have there.
Ed
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - ForcedInduction - 03-23-2011
(03-23-2011, 05:41 PM)mr_manny currently working on oil-lines, and have started wondering if the stock oil-cooler is really necessary?
Absolutely. Oil is the primary cooling medium of the engine's pistons and lower half.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - JTY - 03-26-2011
No doubt you need oil cooler, the bigger the better and please use cooler with thermostat
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 300D50 - 03-26-2011
Cool oil keeps your pistons happy.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - willbhere4u - 03-26-2011
and turbo happy!
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - ForcedInduction - 03-28-2011
The oil needs to be over 100*c to boil out moisture.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - Captain America - 03-28-2011
(03-28-2011, 02:35 AM)ForcedInduction The oil needs to be over 100*c to boil out moisture.
I can attribute to that!
On that note... My 300 with the toasted head gasket (and hydro-locking #2 cylinder) One time after I cranked the water out of the glowplug hole and got her started, I went to get some lunch with a buddy. Pulled up to Jack in your ass and left the car running right in front of the door. CCV hose went straight to the ground and had a jet of steam (5/8" hose) coming out of it.... Some black lady said something like "Why is that car steaming so much?" My buddy replied with "Oh, that car is hydrogen powered..." She believed him!
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - ForcedInduction - 03-28-2011
Yeah, I get "whats that hose" quite a bit. I think the looks are worth it to keep oil out of the intake.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - Captain America - 03-29-2011
Ahhh yes. With mine, I routed it to the drivers side between the lines right at the PS box and loosely secured it to the brake rod. It doesn't hang quite as low as yours
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - dieselboy - 03-29-2011
Mines on the drivers side down low too but I hardly ever get anything out of it.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - mr_manny - 03-29-2011
Deleting the oil-cooler to provide for a Cleaner Install and eliminate potential oil leaks associated with lines/oil-cooler in the future.
vs
Benefits with turbo/motor longevity gained from the oil-cooler.
keeping the cooler
thanks for the replies...
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - mr_manny - 04-03-2011
oil cooler is back
![[Image: oil-01.jpg]](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/oil-01.jpg)
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decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 4rnnr33 - 04-04-2011
(04-03-2011, 05:40 PM)mr_manny oil cooler is back
decided to run one of these from Earl's:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-81610ERL
Oil Thermostat and some line routing/cleaning are all that remain for this issue
where did you get the remote filter bracket (engine side) or is that a custom part? Im looking into doing the remote mount setup yours looks super clean
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - larsalan - 04-04-2011
you mean this part?
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-fs-custom-billet-oil-filter-relocation-plates
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - mr_manny - 04-04-2011
made the adapter out of 1/2 aluminum:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-moving-altering-the-oil-thermostat-filter-housing?pid=22268#pid22268
@$25 I would have purchased one from 300D50...if they were available :p
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 4rnnr33 - 04-04-2011
Yep thats exactly what I needed thanks
What are you guys running for a thermostat just trying to decide which one to get
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - mr_manny - 04-05-2011
(04-04-2011, 03:10 PM)4rnnr33 Yep thats exactly what I needed thanks
What are you guys running for a thermostat just trying to decide which one to get
I'm going to be running this one:
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This Billet Style Cast Aluminum Fluid Control Thermostat with 1/2” NPT ports allows the oil to bypass the cooler until it reaches 180°F at which point the internal thermostatic valve closes allowing 95% of the oil through the cooler. This process allows the engine/transmission to achieve the ideal operating temperature quicker before passing the oil through the cooler. At temps below 180°F the valve is open, with 90% of the oil bypassing the cooler. The remaining 10% of the oil flows through the cooler, maintaining constant system pressure, preventing air pockets and eliminating cold oil shock.
The unit can be rotated 180° to change flow direction.
Perfrect for all-season climates
Flow: 20 gpm
Rated to 200 psi
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 300D50 - 04-05-2011
I'd get a ~210 deg version, so the water can cook out.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 4rnnr33 - 04-05-2011
(04-05-2011, 01:14 PM)300D50 I'd get a ~210 deg version, so the water can cook out.
Is there one available for a decent price? The only one Ive seen so far is the canton racing which is about $170 on summit and looks pretty overkill for what Im doing.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 300D50 - 04-05-2011
Haven't looked, I'll try and find the spec for the stock one.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - Captain America - 04-05-2011
Cooking water is a must!
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 4rnnr33 - 04-06-2011
The stock one must be around 180 because my oil temp gauge will barely hit 180 even after its plenty warmed up. Unless my stock thermostat isnt working properly?
(04-05-2011, 03:08 PM)300D50 Haven't looked, I'll try and find the spec for the stock one.
RE: decision time - oil coolers necessary? - 300D50 - 04-06-2011
Then I'd say go for it!
