STD Tuning Drivetrain 300D Turbo trans mods.

300D Turbo trans mods.

300D Turbo trans mods.

 
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Blackstack
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02-17-2011, 01:06 PM #1
What does it take to get a stock auto trans. to hold up behind a modified OM617? I'm one of those guys that would just as soon have an auto vs. a manual gear box. I'm starting in on my project and am just planning for the future here. Can they be made to take 300-350 HP? What can you do as far as making it into a manual shift valve body?
Blackstack
02-17-2011, 01:06 PM #1

What does it take to get a stock auto trans. to hold up behind a modified OM617? I'm one of those guys that would just as soon have an auto vs. a manual gear box. I'm starting in on my project and am just planning for the future here. Can they be made to take 300-350 HP? What can you do as far as making it into a manual shift valve body?

dieselboy
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02-17-2011, 03:08 PM #2
There are several different transmissions put behind the 617. There is a part # with a 722.xxx number that will tell you your version.
I have the 722.120 supposedly the weakest trans. I didn't have a problem with it slipping but I think had the pressure turned up to high and I physically cracked the case. The trans still actually worked but it leaked fluid like crazy.

I think I turned the modulator in to much 4+ turns iirc.

You can increase the pressure in the trans by turning in the modulator (clockwise) a few clicks at a time. I would go max of 2 turns now that I split mine lol.


FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.
This post was last modified: 02-17-2011, 03:10 PM by dieselboy.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

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dieselboy
02-17-2011, 03:08 PM #2

There are several different transmissions put behind the 617. There is a part # with a 722.xxx number that will tell you your version.
I have the 722.120 supposedly the weakest trans. I didn't have a problem with it slipping but I think had the pressure turned up to high and I physically cracked the case. The trans still actually worked but it leaked fluid like crazy.

I think I turned the modulator in to much 4+ turns iirc.

You can increase the pressure in the trans by turning in the modulator (clockwise) a few clicks at a time. I would go max of 2 turns now that I split mine lol.


FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

ForcedInduction
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02-17-2011, 05:53 PM #3
The first thing you need to do is get it up to spec, which means getting a gauge, adjusting the modulator pressure correctly and making sure the governor pressure is correct. The transmission will not hold more than ~225hp without the clutches and brake bands slipping. Adjusting the modulator pressure too high will just make shifting hard.

There isn't anything, currently, to make the valve body a full manual. As stock it works as a semi-manual with L limiting to 2nd, and S to 3rd. The closest thing is a shift correction kit that will set the firmness for each shift.
http://transmissiontechnologies.com/supe...ports.aspx
This post was last modified: 02-17-2011, 05:55 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-17-2011, 05:53 PM #3

The first thing you need to do is get it up to spec, which means getting a gauge, adjusting the modulator pressure correctly and making sure the governor pressure is correct. The transmission will not hold more than ~225hp without the clutches and brake bands slipping. Adjusting the modulator pressure too high will just make shifting hard.

There isn't anything, currently, to make the valve body a full manual. As stock it works as a semi-manual with L limiting to 2nd, and S to 3rd. The closest thing is a shift correction kit that will set the firmness for each shift.
http://transmissiontechnologies.com/supe...ports.aspx

300D50
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02-17-2011, 06:20 PM #4
So nobody makes a shift kit for the old beasts? I'll have to rip into the trans I have and see...

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300D50
02-17-2011, 06:20 PM #4

So nobody makes a shift kit for the old beasts? I'll have to rip into the trans I have and see...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

Blackstack
Naturally-aspirated

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02-17-2011, 06:27 PM #5
(02-17-2011, 03:08 PM)dieselboy There are several different transmissions put behind the 617. There is a part # with a 722.xxx number that will tell you your version.
I have the 722.120 supposedly the weakest trans. I didn't have a problem with it slipping but I think had the pressure turned up to high and I physically cracked the case. The trans still actually worked but it leaked fluid like crazy.

I think I turned the modulator in to much 4+ turns iirc.

You can increase the pressure in the trans by turning in the modulator (clockwise) a few clicks at a time. I would go max of 2 turns now that I split mine lol.


FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.


Quote:FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.


Yup, and head/cam work, fabricated intake/exhaust manifold, intercooler, water/meth injection etc. etc. I'm just planning 1-2 years out.

Blackstack
02-17-2011, 06:27 PM #5

(02-17-2011, 03:08 PM)dieselboy There are several different transmissions put behind the 617. There is a part # with a 722.xxx number that will tell you your version.
I have the 722.120 supposedly the weakest trans. I didn't have a problem with it slipping but I think had the pressure turned up to high and I physically cracked the case. The trans still actually worked but it leaked fluid like crazy.

I think I turned the modulator in to much 4+ turns iirc.

You can increase the pressure in the trans by turning in the modulator (clockwise) a few clicks at a time. I would go max of 2 turns now that I split mine lol.


FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.


Quote:FYI 300-350 isn't easy or cheap with a om617.
Were talking big turbo, big pump 8mm+, ~40psi boost.


Yup, and head/cam work, fabricated intake/exhaust manifold, intercooler, water/meth injection etc. etc. I'm just planning 1-2 years out.

Motorhead
GT2256V

168
03-01-2011, 12:21 AM #6
I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.
Motorhead
03-01-2011, 12:21 AM #6

I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.

Captain America
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03-03-2011, 05:04 PM #7
(03-01-2011, 12:21 AM)Motorhead I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/high...-1633.html


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
03-03-2011, 05:04 PM #7

(03-01-2011, 12:21 AM)Motorhead I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/high...-1633.html



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Motorhead
GT2256V

168
03-03-2011, 11:57 PM #8
(03-03-2011, 05:04 PM)Captain America
(03-01-2011, 12:21 AM)Motorhead I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/high...-1633.html

Thanks man, I found the thread after posting. I will try a place I found in Anaheim and see if they can build a hybrid, I think 1,800 to 1,900 would get me off the line.

Motorhead
03-03-2011, 11:57 PM #8

(03-03-2011, 05:04 PM)Captain America
(03-01-2011, 12:21 AM)Motorhead I'm getting ready to send my slush box out for some new internals and a converter, is there a better converter out there and if there is does it have a higher or lower stall? I can get anything made if I need to put a couple of different converters together but maybe there is somthing out there.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/high...-1633.html

Thanks man, I found the thread after posting. I will try a place I found in Anaheim and see if they can build a hybrid, I think 1,800 to 1,900 would get me off the line.

 
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