OM617A superturbodiesel
OM617A superturbodiesel
12-22-2010, 04:30 PM
#1
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow..
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow in the top lock(?) or what it's called
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
This post was last modified: 12-22-2010, 04:32 PM by Diesel-Wiking.
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
Diesel-Wiking
12-22-2010, 04:30 PM #1Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow..
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow in the top lock(?) or what it's called
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
12-22-2010, 05:02 PM
#2
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-22-2010, 05:02 PM #2603 will make that power much more efficiently then the 617, and much easier.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-22-2010, 05:04 PM
#3
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow..
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow in the top lock(?) or what it's called
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
The exhaust manifold wil "work", but a custom manifold will give you lower exhaust temp and earlier spool up.
The inlet manifold is okay, but with adding 3-5 inces on the runners and a new plenum it is as good as it can be for a om617 head!
Remeber for pushing more than 300-330hp of it, you need to go heavy on the head. A friend of mine in sweden got 400 hp in the engine with a HEAVY modified head, custom grinded cam, double valve springs and ported inn and outlets to the max.
(12-22-2010, 05:02 PM)George3soccer 603 will make that power much more efficiently then the 617, and much easier.
Yez. 603 and 606 will hit that numbers easy. But i like the charm of the om617, so i hope i choose the good old om617
This post was last modified: 12-22-2010, 05:05 PM by BRABUS.
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow..
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
(12-22-2010, 04:30 PM)Diesel-Wiking Hello.
is the manifoil and inlet good enough to handle 300-400hp? Or is it a must to customize? I mean the flow in the top lock(?) or what it's called
or is it better to choose 603 for such an project, is the flow better in this engine?
I will fit it in an old 69' BMW e9 race car.
The exhaust manifold wil "work", but a custom manifold will give you lower exhaust temp and earlier spool up.
The inlet manifold is okay, but with adding 3-5 inces on the runners and a new plenum it is as good as it can be for a om617 head!
Remeber for pushing more than 300-330hp of it, you need to go heavy on the head. A friend of mine in sweden got 400 hp in the engine with a HEAVY modified head, custom grinded cam, double valve springs and ported inn and outlets to the max.
(12-22-2010, 05:02 PM)George3soccer 603 will make that power much more efficiently then the 617, and much easier.
Yez. 603 and 606 will hit that numbers easy. But i like the charm of the om617, so i hope i choose the good old om617
12-22-2010, 05:25 PM
#4
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
Diesel-Wiking
12-22-2010, 05:25 PM #4what is the biggest problem to hit this numbers with the old 617? yes brabus, that's one of the reasons I want to use 617, and the sound is in my opinion much better too.
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
12-22-2010, 08:38 PM
#5
ForcedInduction
12-22-2010, 08:38 PM
#5
A 617 will take a LOT of work to reach 300hp, a 603 will just need a turbo and injection pump.
12-22-2010, 09:52 PM
#6
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om-e...-1694.html
Here is the intake manifold thread about the best factory unit.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om61...t-445.html
Getting in good with a local wrecking yard will help with good parts cheap.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
Here is the exhaust manifold thread about the best factory unit.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om-e...-1694.html
Here is the intake manifold thread about the best factory unit.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om61...t-445.html
Getting in good with a local wrecking yard will help with good parts cheap.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
12-23-2010, 08:21 AM
#7
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
Diesel-Wiking
12-23-2010, 08:21 AM #7thank you for answer, but for a 603a, can you use those om606 manifoils(bolt on?)?
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
12-23-2010, 08:37 AM
#8
And for the exhaust manifold the euro 603 manifold will flow enough if not kkd makes a wicked exhaust manifold.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-23-2010, 08:37 AM #8I am not sure, but the 603 manifold is fine, just look for the 603 non turbo intake and build a plenum.
And for the exhaust manifold the euro 603 manifold will flow enough if not kkd makes a wicked exhaust manifold.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-23-2010, 08:38 AM
#10
(12-23-2010, 08:37 AM)George3soccer I am not sure, but the 603 manifold is fine, just look for the 603 non turbo intake and build a plenum.
And for the exhaust manifold the euro 603 manifold will flow enough if not kkd makes a wicked exhaust manifold.
awesome, thank you
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
Diesel-Wiking
12-23-2010, 08:38 AM #10(12-23-2010, 08:37 AM)George3soccer I am not sure, but the 603 manifold is fine, just look for the 603 non turbo intake and build a plenum.
And for the exhaust manifold the euro 603 manifold will flow enough if not kkd makes a wicked exhaust manifold.
awesome, thank you
*1984 Mercedes S123 300TD turbodiesel*
*1993 BMW 525tdsT*
*1990 BMW 524 turbodiesel*
*1983 BMW 745iA e23*
*1969 BMW 3.0csl racecar*
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