Custom oil pan, was "Rear sump, dry sump, or angle the engine?"
Custom oil pan, was "Rear sump, dry sump, or angle the engine?"
I've got some interference between the frame and the front sump, as well as the swaybar.
I've heard that the turbo oil pumps don't hang down as low, so maybe ploping one in and removing a bit of the oil pan could work?
I'm contemplating remaking the pan for rear sump or a flat sump, since I need to cut out part of it to clear the starter, but I'm undecided...
Other options would be making a different pickup and decking the oil pan a few inches, doing a dry-sump setup with external pumps(last resort), or just trim the frame and angle the engine up in the front to clear the swaybar, and overfill slightly to deal with the oil pooling in the back.
Any thoughts?
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I'm in a bit of a pickle.
I've got some interference between the frame and the front sump, as well as the swaybar.
I've heard that the turbo oil pumps don't hang down as low, so maybe ploping one in and removing a bit of the oil pan could work?
I'm contemplating remaking the pan for rear sump or a flat sump, since I need to cut out part of it to clear the starter, but I'm undecided...
Other options would be making a different pickup and decking the oil pan a few inches, doing a dry-sump setup with external pumps(last resort), or just trim the frame and angle the engine up in the front to clear the swaybar, and overfill slightly to deal with the oil pooling in the back.
Any thoughts?
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http://superturbodiesel.com/std/om617-4r...l#pid20608
![[Image: IMG_1326.jpg]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c150/krisscrossx/Diesel%20Build/IMG_1326.jpg)
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
11-12-2010, 03:29 PM #2Maybe do something like Kracken did. Cut a piece out of the pan and modified the oil pick up.
http://superturbodiesel.com/std/om617-4r...l#pid20608
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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I'm thinking I'll need to remove part of the flange on the cast pan since that hits frame as well, but if I already have to trim the frame to clear the harmonic balancer it's likely moot.
Looks like rear sump is out, that'd hit a crossmember.
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That's along the lines of what I was thinking of doing, good to see it's been done before.
I'm thinking I'll need to remove part of the flange on the cast pan since that hits frame as well, but if I already have to trim the frame to clear the harmonic balancer it's likely moot.
Looks like rear sump is out, that'd hit a crossmember.
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http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/oil-...-1362.html
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
wow, looks like one of my threads may actually turn out to be useful :p
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/oil-...-1362.html
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
Also, it looks like the NA block can't take a turbo oil pump due to not having room for the needed chain sprocket, unless I'm overlooking something?
Are the lower pans interchangeable between turbo and NA, minus turbo oil drain and etc?
Same flange bolt pattern/seal locations? If I had access to a turbo engine I'd be able to do the comparisons myself, but you guys are my eyes on this one.
Crud, there's no room on the crank for the extra sprocket... must be turbo blocks and cranks are ~ an inch longer?
So close and yet so far...
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Thank's Mr Manny, after looking through all of that, I'm convinced custom/modified lower pan is the way to go.
Also, it looks like the NA block can't take a turbo oil pump due to not having room for the needed chain sprocket, unless I'm overlooking something?
Are the lower pans interchangeable between turbo and NA, minus turbo oil drain and etc?
Same flange bolt pattern/seal locations? If I had access to a turbo engine I'd be able to do the comparisons myself, but you guys are my eyes on this one.
Crud, there's no room on the crank for the extra sprocket... must be turbo blocks and cranks are ~ an inch longer?
So close and yet so far...
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(11-13-2010, 11:29 PM)300D50 Are the lower pans interchangeable between turbo and NA, minus turbo oil drain and etc?No, different bolt pattern.
ForcedInduction
11-14-2010, 07:47 AM
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(11-13-2010, 11:29 PM)300D50 Are the lower pans interchangeable between turbo and NA, minus turbo oil drain and etc?No, different bolt pattern.
(11-13-2010, 11:15 PM)mr_manny wow, looks like one of my threads may actually turn out to be useful :p
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/oil-...-1362.html
Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?I ask because my car is set up for a rear sump engine and I know I am gonna need some clearance.Mr_manny's solution won't work for me.I already know that I am gonna have to clearance my K member or find someone competent to build me a tubular K member.That AJE one has failed under to many cars for me to trust.
Anyone ever weigh an OM617 dressed out to run in a vehicle?Looks like my 3.8L gasser is 405lbs.I got a weight of 447lbs for a OM615.It didn't note if the engine was dressed or long block.Would that be close to the weight of an OM617 dressed out?
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
(11-13-2010, 11:15 PM)mr_manny wow, looks like one of my threads may actually turn out to be useful :p
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/oil-...-1362.html
Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?I ask because my car is set up for a rear sump engine and I know I am gonna need some clearance.Mr_manny's solution won't work for me.I already know that I am gonna have to clearance my K member or find someone competent to build me a tubular K member.That AJE one has failed under to many cars for me to trust.
Anyone ever weigh an OM617 dressed out to run in a vehicle?Looks like my 3.8L gasser is 405lbs.I got a weight of 447lbs for a OM615.It didn't note if the engine was dressed or long block.Would that be close to the weight of an OM617 dressed out?
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
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I was going to make a full custom pan with a mid-pickup sump, but seeing as the turbo and NA pans have different bolt patterns it's easier to chop up my NA pan a bit for now, and do the turbo one right later on.
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(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
ForcedInduction
11-15-2010, 06:04 PM
#9
(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
(11-15-2010, 06:04 PM)ForcedInduction(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
I see how that's better than a stamped steel unit.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
(11-15-2010, 06:04 PM)ForcedInduction(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
I see how that's better than a stamped steel unit.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
From a modification standpoint it gives more options for different shapes, but one could do that by building and welding your own aluminum lower pan to the stock upper pan.
ForcedInduction
11-15-2010, 08:41 PM
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I don't see it as a benefit since it loses all its impact absorption ability and its a major job to remove/repair. Even with a skidplate, I'd rather have a pan that bends instead of shatters.
From a modification standpoint it gives more options for different shapes, but one could do that by building and welding your own aluminum lower pan to the stock upper pan.
(11-15-2010, 07:04 PM)ben2go(11-15-2010, 06:04 PM)ForcedInduction(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
I see how that's better than a stamped steel unit.
The G-wagen pan only fits the N/A engine--not the turbo 617.
The cast design is hard to repair in the field if it is cracked.
It's also a front sump pan - just a slight profile difference to clear the front diff
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(11-15-2010, 07:04 PM)ben2go(11-15-2010, 06:04 PM)ForcedInduction(11-15-2010, 03:24 PM)ben2go Someone mentioned the Gwagen oil pan.What's so good about that pan?
Its a single cast piece.
I see how that's better than a stamped steel unit.
The G-wagen pan only fits the N/A engine--not the turbo 617.
The cast design is hard to repair in the field if it is cracked.
It's also a front sump pan - just a slight profile difference to clear the front diff
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
I've got a reasonably complete point scan of the NA pan, enough to do a recreation of the flange, baffles, and the like. If it's simply a clearance issue on the front, I'll make the top flange so that it will go on either a turbo or NA block so I can future proof.
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Anyone happen to have a good photo of the top front of the cast pan flange from a turbo block?
I've got a reasonably complete point scan of the NA pan, enough to do a recreation of the flange, baffles, and the like. If it's simply a clearance issue on the front, I'll make the top flange so that it will go on either a turbo or NA block so I can future proof.
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Starting in on the section for the rear main right now.
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Well, I'm making an oil pan!
Starting in on the section for the rear main right now.
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1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
Post pics and let us know how much it holds.I looked at external oil pumps today and passed out from sticker shock.It took a Four LoKo to bring me back around.Nahhh J/K.I stay away from black out in a can.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
I'd like to be able to make it universal so it fits either the NA or the turbo blocks, I've got an idea as to what's different between them but need some visual confirmation...
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I'll be trying to keep the stock capacity or maybe add another quart or so.
I'd like to be able to make it universal so it fits either the NA or the turbo blocks, I've got an idea as to what's different between them but need some visual confirmation...
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1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
I belive if you use 617engine mounts on a 616engine, it lets the engine sit somthing like 4or6 inches closer to the firewall, but then the crossmember gets in the way of the oilpan. Right?? So just welding up a new oil pan would be sweet!
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
Main issues I have are the 617 is a whole boatload longer than the V6 it's replacing, so the front of the sump hits frame and swaybar, the starter wants to coexist with the ears on the cast pan, and I've got limited space due to the front differential.
I've been modeling up a new pan based on the original ones dimensions, and the dimensions of the mitsubishi one. So far it looks like I'll be using a mid-sump, possibly with the mitsubishi pan in the mix.
Motor mounts will end up being custom made, using the mitsubishi rubber mounts and just remaking the bracketry that bolts to the block.
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I'm locked-in with the trans location right now, don't feel like moving shifter locations, cutting the tunnel, making new trans mounts, and getting 2 custom driveshafts made.
Main issues I have are the 617 is a whole boatload longer than the V6 it's replacing, so the front of the sump hits frame and swaybar, the starter wants to coexist with the ears on the cast pan, and I've got limited space due to the front differential.
I've been modeling up a new pan based on the original ones dimensions, and the dimensions of the mitsubishi one. So far it looks like I'll be using a mid-sump, possibly with the mitsubishi pan in the mix.
Motor mounts will end up being custom made, using the mitsubishi rubber mounts and just remaking the bracketry that bolts to the block.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-19-2010, 11:24 AM #21Eliminate the factory sway bar and do a custom one! Then notch the frame cross bar!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
ForcedInduction
11-20-2010, 10:49 AM
#22
Looks like I can access the world-EPC on the "free subscription".
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
I know that the left oil pan is found in most 300 cars.What are the other two found in?Would the center one give more clearance on the back side of the pan?Considering that the OM617 is going into another car,a cast pan would not be much of a concern as far as being hit by debris.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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Those seem to be NA pans, any chance of getting a diagram of the turbo ones?
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(11-21-2010, 06:56 AM)ForcedInduction There is only one turbo pan.
That's the one to the left on the diagram posted,and it has a stamped steel pan like pictured through the website.
1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
This is the relief for the starter, since I rotated it down under the block to match the transmissions starter location.
![[Image: IMG_20101202_150802.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2272-2/IMG_20101202_150802.jpg)
And of all the weird shit that could EVER happen, Pandora came up on my phone at random, right as I was typing this, and started playing "looks like they were right" by Lit.
Maybe it's a message from the Mercedes/Mitsubishi gods?
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Well, I'm now irrevocably committed to getting an oilpan finished!
This is the relief for the starter, since I rotated it down under the block to match the transmissions starter location.
And of all the weird shit that could EVER happen, Pandora came up on my phone at random, right as I was typing this, and started playing "looks like they were right" by Lit.
Maybe it's a message from the Mercedes/Mitsubishi gods?
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After the rough-out!
Partway through the finish cycle, stopped to check how it was doing under the little pond of coolant. Looks good so far!
![[Image: IMG_20101202_172643.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2297-2/IMG_20101202_172643.jpg)
I've got ~ another 40 minutes to go...
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After the rough-out!
Partway through the finish cycle, stopped to check how it was doing under the little pond of coolant. Looks good so far!
I've got ~ another 40 minutes to go...
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![[Image: IMG_20101202_182431.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2302-2/IMG_20101202_182431.jpg)
By far, one of my FAVORITE photo's so far!
![[Image: IMG_20101202_182439.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2307-2/IMG_20101202_182439.jpg)
And, profile is finished! WOOOHOOO!
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The other side pan will be milled out Monday, then it's cutting the angle on the top that mates with the block, and drilling the holes. That needs a fixture I spent the last 3 days making, but didn't document.
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Curiosity got the better of me, I had to check again!
By far, one of my FAVORITE photo's so far!
And, profile is finished! WOOOHOOO!
The other side pan will be milled out Monday, then it's cutting the angle on the top that mates with the block, and drilling the holes. That needs a fixture I spent the last 3 days making, but didn't document.
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The original cast pan is 10 pounds, the pass side rail is 6.
When I put it up against the engine, it makes it look MUCH different, the effect is very hard to describe....
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I know, it's awesome just staring at this thing!
The original cast pan is 10 pounds, the pass side rail is 6.
When I put it up against the engine, it makes it look MUCH different, the effect is very hard to describe....
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Anxiously awaiting more pics...
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
Effing amazing...
Anxiously awaiting more pics...
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
(11-20-2010, 10:49 AM)ForcedInduction Looks like I can access the world-EPC on the "free subscription".
I lost my password
Those two pans on the right are from the 300gd right?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(11-20-2010, 10:49 AM)ForcedInduction Looks like I can access the world-EPC on the "free subscription".
I lost my password
Those two pans on the right are from the 300gd right?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Pandora is awesome!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
12-06-2010, 04:52 PM #34I wish I could sit down and do some of this as well.
Pandora is awesome!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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The 2 halves are contoured, awaiting drilling, upper one is pass side, lower is part of the drivers side.
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The 2 halves are contoured, awaiting drilling, upper one is pass side, lower is part of the drivers side.
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![[Image: IMG_20110118_151728.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110118_151728.jpg.html)
![[Image: IMG_20110118_155801.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110118_155801.jpg.html)
![[Image: IMG_20110118_155812.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110118_155812.jpg.html)
![[Image: IMG_20110118_155825.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110118_155825.jpg.html)
That's the rear main seal retainer/upper pan end plate, 2 operations left and it's finished.
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That's the rear main seal retainer/upper pan end plate, 2 operations left and it's finished.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
01-18-2011, 07:01 PM #38Daaaamnn.... You do excellent work! Great job so far!
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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![[Image: IMG_20110120_134159.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110120_134159.jpg.html)
Front main seal retainer, after the third to last operation. Tomorrow both retainers get their block mounting holes drilled and counterbored.
![[Image: IMG_20110120_171640.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110120_171640.jpg.html)
![[Image: IMG_20110120_171142.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110120_171142.jpg.html)
![[Image: IMG_20110120_171215.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/v/V6_Truck/IMG_20110120_171215.jpg.htmll)
A a few quick comparison shots of what's done so far.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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Front main seal retainer, after the third to last operation. Tomorrow both retainers get their block mounting holes drilled and counterbored.
A a few quick comparison shots of what's done so far.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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Tomorrow it's drilling and counterboring the mounting holes in the end plates, and setting up to flycut the tops of the side rails to match the rest of the seal surface, then punching the main mounting holes in the rails.
Things are looking up.
![[Image: IMG_20110125_204856.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2750-4/IMG_20110125_204856.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_20110125_220410.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2760-4/IMG_20110125_220410.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_20110125_220439.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2765-4/IMG_20110125_220439.jpg)
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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Today was a good day, finished the intermediate plate, made the intermediate block that clears the oil pump shaft, trimmed the longest side rail to final size, and got everything drilled and tapped to hold it all together.
Tomorrow it's drilling and counterboring the mounting holes in the end plates, and setting up to flycut the tops of the side rails to match the rest of the seal surface, then punching the main mounting holes in the rails.
Things are looking up.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
That is some pretty amazing craftsmanship! Highly impressed. How are you planning on sealing the joints? Or did I miss that part?
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
Oh, and picture time!
![[Image: IMG_20110126_151403.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2799-2/IMG_20110126_151403.jpg)
Drilling the mounting holes in the drivers side pan rail.
![[Image: IMG_20110126_165437.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2784-2/IMG_20110126_165437.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_20110126_165528.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2794-2/IMG_20110126_165528.jpg)
Need to do 2 more holes in the cnc, and then some counterbore work on one of the manual machines, and I'll be able to do a test-bolt once the longer bolts come in.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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I'll take a leaf from Force, and use the Loctite anaerobic sealer on the bolted flanges, and possibly to the block.
Oh, and picture time!
Drilling the mounting holes in the drivers side pan rail.
Need to do 2 more holes in the cnc, and then some counterbore work on one of the manual machines, and I'll be able to do a test-bolt once the longer bolts come in.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Got the machine going again today, turned out to be a backup battery that was just dead enough to cause issues, but not dead enough to trip the "low battery" alarm...
![[Image: IMG_20110128_164001.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2813-2/IMG_20110128_164001.jpg)
Pass side pan rail in the fixture, after counterboring. Decided to do it in the CNC once I remembered where the 3" long 5/16 endmill was.
![[Image: IMG_20110128_203822.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2818-2/IMG_20110128_203822.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_20110128_203857.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2828-2/IMG_20110128_203857.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_20110128_203937.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2858-2/IMG_20110128_203937.jpg)
Need to face .04" off the inside of the rear main seal block in order to get it all to fit the way I want it to, still drill and counterbore the other 2 holes, then deck the bottom surface down nice and even.
Getting there...
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Machine was on the fritz yesterday, so I probed out the t-stat housing to get the needed dimensions to make a new one that won't interfere with the grand plan to raise up the A/C compressor.
Got the machine going again today, turned out to be a backup battery that was just dead enough to cause issues, but not dead enough to trip the "low battery" alarm...
Pass side pan rail in the fixture, after counterboring. Decided to do it in the CNC once I remembered where the 3" long 5/16 endmill was.
Need to face .04" off the inside of the rear main seal block in order to get it all to fit the way I want it to, still drill and counterbore the other 2 holes, then deck the bottom surface down nice and even.
Getting there...
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Anyone know if the oil pump from a turbo 617 will fit in an NA engine?
I'm going to run into a clearance issue with the NA pump it seems, and from the looks of it the turbo pump's pickup geometry would alleviate the issue.
I got the counterbore work all finished Tuesday, just forgot to snap pics...
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Guess I'll ask again...
Anyone know if the oil pump from a turbo 617 will fit in an NA engine?
I'm going to run into a clearance issue with the NA pump it seems, and from the looks of it the turbo pump's pickup geometry would alleviate the issue.
I got the counterbore work all finished Tuesday, just forgot to snap pics...
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
![[Image: IMG_20110211_165832.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2891-2/IMG_20110211_165832.jpg)
Without the sump flange.
![[Image: IMG_20110211_174729.jpg]](http://zarnochwf1.com/gallery2/d/2901-2/IMG_20110211_174729.jpg)
Upper pan, is finished.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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With the sump flange.
Without the sump flange.
Upper pan, is finished.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-11-2011, 08:36 PM #49looks nice I would like to know about the oil pump as well for my om616 turbo project!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
http://mercedesdiesel4x4.com/OM617OilPan...wSump.aspx
300D50,
Yours is in a completely different category...droooool :p
manny
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
Found this narrowed om617 oil-pan...looks like they're getting ready to start their first run:
http://mercedesdiesel4x4.com/OM617OilPan...wSump.aspx
300D50,
Yours is in a completely different category...droooool :p
manny
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
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