STD Tuning Engine stripping down OM617?

stripping down OM617?

stripping down OM617?

 
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
 
jenyus
GT2256V

158
01-19-2013, 09:00 PM #1
im putting the '80 OM617 i just picked up in my jeep. I want to strip off as much extra stuff as possible, specifically vacuum lines. I dont know much about the vac system on this car, but diesels dont usually need this many vac lines. my 81 peugeot 505 diesel doesnt use any.
jenyus
01-19-2013, 09:00 PM #1

im putting the '80 OM617 i just picked up in my jeep. I want to strip off as much extra stuff as possible, specifically vacuum lines. I dont know much about the vac system on this car, but diesels dont usually need this many vac lines. my 81 peugeot 505 diesel doesnt use any.

aaa
GT2256V

913
01-19-2013, 10:07 PM #2
The only necessary vacuum line is for the shutoff.
aaa
01-19-2013, 10:07 PM #2

The only necessary vacuum line is for the shutoff.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
01-19-2013, 10:59 PM #3
what about the trans vac line? You might argue the shutoff vac line is useless. You could replace it with a shutoff cable or something.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
01-19-2013, 10:59 PM #3

what about the trans vac line? You might argue the shutoff vac line is useless. You could replace it with a shutoff cable or something.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

jenyus
GT2256V

158
01-19-2013, 11:30 PM #4
What about the trans vac line? I'm using the keep ax-15 manual trans.

I found a way to do an electric shutoff on the motor to get rid of the silly vacu shutoff which only works about a third of the time for me
jenyus
01-19-2013, 11:30 PM #4

What about the trans vac line? I'm using the keep ax-15 manual trans.

I found a way to do an electric shutoff on the motor to get rid of the silly vacu shutoff which only works about a third of the time for me

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
01-20-2013, 09:17 AM #5
Then it sounds like you don't need any of it at all. I thought some people here were trying to delete the vac pump all together and put a block off plate in its place.
I cannot find the thread(s) Sad

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
01-20-2013, 09:17 AM #5

Then it sounds like you don't need any of it at all. I thought some people here were trying to delete the vac pump all together and put a block off plate in its place.
I cannot find the thread(s) Sad


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-20-2013, 10:49 AM #6
Check my build threads for a vac blockoff. If your vac pump works, you want to sell it and buy materials for a blockoff-vac pumps can go for like $6,000,000


You can use a choke cable to pull the linkage into the stop position, and block off the vacuum shutoff hole in the IP.

The EGR system isn't required for driving. With a boost/ egt gauge you can pull the ALDA from the top of the pump.

While you have the engine out install a bock heater, just be sure to heat the plug in the block-it can crack the block if it's dead cold.
This post was last modified: 01-20-2013, 10:50 AM by Simpler=Better.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-20-2013, 10:49 AM #6

Check my build threads for a vac blockoff. If your vac pump works, you want to sell it and buy materials for a blockoff-vac pumps can go for like $6,000,000


You can use a choke cable to pull the linkage into the stop position, and block off the vacuum shutoff hole in the IP.

The EGR system isn't required for driving. With a boost/ egt gauge you can pull the ALDA from the top of the pump.

While you have the engine out install a bock heater, just be sure to heat the plug in the block-it can crack the block if it's dead cold.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Druk
Holset

297
01-20-2013, 11:01 AM #7
If the vac pump is deleted completely and a blanking plate put in it's place what works the brake servo?
Druk
01-20-2013, 11:01 AM #7

If the vac pump is deleted completely and a blanking plate put in it's place what works the brake servo?

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-20-2013, 11:34 AM #8
(01-20-2013, 11:01 AM)Druk If the vac pump is deleted completely and a blanking plate put in it's place what works the brake servo?

Electric vac pump (if it fails, you don't get random parts in your engine)

or

Install bigger master cylinder and have manual brakes

or

Install hydraulic booster from a truck


I plan on going the bigger master cylinder route

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-20-2013, 11:34 AM #8

(01-20-2013, 11:01 AM)Druk If the vac pump is deleted completely and a blanking plate put in it's place what works the brake servo?

Electric vac pump (if it fails, you don't get random parts in your engine)

or

Install bigger master cylinder and have manual brakes

or

Install hydraulic booster from a truck


I plan on going the bigger master cylinder route


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

jenyus
GT2256V

158
01-20-2013, 04:32 PM #9
Newer ford diesels use an electric vac pump, they run about $80 on eBay here in the us. Hydro assist is nice as well, my friends truck uses that, but ou have to source a special booster for that.
jenyus
01-20-2013, 04:32 PM #9

Newer ford diesels use an electric vac pump, they run about $80 on eBay here in the us. Hydro assist is nice as well, my friends truck uses that, but ou have to source a special booster for that.

jenyus
GT2256V

158
01-23-2013, 09:03 PM #10
this is how i'll do the sutoff for the IP
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/v/vspfi...wiring.pdf
jenyus
01-23-2013, 09:03 PM #10

this is how i'll do the sutoff for the IP
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/v/vspfi...wiring.pdf

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
01-24-2013, 10:45 AM #11
Keep the engine driven vacuum pump for the power brakes! Its simple and works great vacuum line from the pump to your brake booster one check valve. that's it

KISS= keep it simple stupid
This post was last modified: 01-24-2013, 10:50 AM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-24-2013, 10:45 AM #11

Keep the engine driven vacuum pump for the power brakes! Its simple and works great vacuum line from the pump to your brake booster one check valve. that's it

KISS= keep it simple stupid


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

jenyus
GT2256V

158
01-24-2013, 01:56 PM #12
Yeah I'm definitely gonna keep it! I kept it when I did my Peugeot dieSel swap on my rock crawler and I'm glad I did
jenyus
01-24-2013, 01:56 PM #12

Yeah I'm definitely gonna keep it! I kept it when I did my Peugeot dieSel swap on my rock crawler and I'm glad I did

ConnClark
GT2256V

109
01-24-2013, 02:16 PM #13
you might also look at getting a head off of an 82-85 OM617. or maybe just the Cam, Cam risers, etc... They provide more valve lift which allows the engine to breath better and makes more power.
ConnClark
01-24-2013, 02:16 PM #13

you might also look at getting a head off of an 82-85 OM617. or maybe just the Cam, Cam risers, etc... They provide more valve lift which allows the engine to breath better and makes more power.

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-24-2013, 03:47 PM #14
(01-23-2013, 09:03 PM)jenyus this is how i'll do the sutoff for the IP
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/v/vspfi...wiring.pdf

that's how I ran it in my car. It still needs a vacuum source to run.

You can also run a line into the cabin and pull on it with a syringe to shut it down.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-24-2013, 03:47 PM #14

(01-23-2013, 09:03 PM)jenyus this is how i'll do the sutoff for the IP
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/v/vspfi...wiring.pdf

that's how I ran it in my car. It still needs a vacuum source to run.

You can also run a line into the cabin and pull on it with a syringe to shut it down.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

charmalu
GTA2056V

99
01-24-2013, 11:22 PM #15
(01-20-2013, 10:49 AM)Simpler=Better Check my build threads for a vac blockoff. If your vac pump works, you want to sell it and buy materials for a blockoff-vac pumps can go for like $6,000,000


You can use a choke cable to pull the linkage into the stop position, and block off the vacuum shutoff hole in the IP.

The EGR system isn't required for driving. With a boost/ egt gauge you can pull the ALDA from the top of the pump.

While you have the engine out install a bock heater, just be sure to heat the plug in the block-it can crack the block if it's dead cold.

$6,000,000 Huh That`s more than I paid for my Car.

Charlie
charmalu
01-24-2013, 11:22 PM #15

(01-20-2013, 10:49 AM)Simpler=Better Check my build threads for a vac blockoff. If your vac pump works, you want to sell it and buy materials for a blockoff-vac pumps can go for like $6,000,000


You can use a choke cable to pull the linkage into the stop position, and block off the vacuum shutoff hole in the IP.

The EGR system isn't required for driving. With a boost/ egt gauge you can pull the ALDA from the top of the pump.

While you have the engine out install a bock heater, just be sure to heat the plug in the block-it can crack the block if it's dead cold.

$6,000,000 Huh That`s more than I paid for my Car.

Charlie

 
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
Users browsing this thread:
 2 Guest(s)
Users browsing this thread:
 2 Guest(s)