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RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-20-2011

(11-20-2011, 06:25 PM)iheartboost YEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

is this still auto or is it a manual?
hi,
manual, once i came down the straight and pulled 2nd i stayed in that gear for the rest of the video. You hear that engine scream?

wayne




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-21-2011

(11-20-2011, 06:47 PM)mantahead
(11-20-2011, 06:25 PM)iheartboost YEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

is this still auto or is it a manual?
hi,
manual, once i came down the straight and pulled 2nd i stayed in that gear for the rest of the video. You hear that engine scream?

wayne

No problems there, It roars like a 5 cyl petrolengine, I LOVE IT. Thanks for the clip, I have linked to it on serval forums in sweden that has a big intres in this challange.




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - hansebanger77 - 11-21-2011

wayne

can u tell me your flyweel/clutch/gearbox sulution?

And what`s your timing now? because i think 650deg is not high for 3.3 bar boost! im om 2.4 bar boost on 606 and have 720 degrees celsius. i put the temp sensor directly in one pipe of my manifold about 1intch above the zylinderhead so there is the hotterst point. i testet in the downpipe der was 550 deg with same adjustments.

thx
hans


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-21-2011

(11-21-2011, 06:01 AM)hansebanger77 wayne

can u tell me your flyweel/clutch/gearbox sulution?

And what`s your timing now? because i think 650deg is not high for 3.3 bar boost! im om 2.4 bar boost on 606 and have 720 degrees celsius. i put the temp sensor directly in one pipe of my manifold about 1intch above the zylinderhead so there is the hotterst point. i testet in the downpipe der was 550 deg with same adjustments.

thx
hans
hi,
Standard dual mass flywheel, standard box. Paddle clutch and uprated pressure plate.
Need to check timing, was set at 15dbtdc and then adjusted for max power. Only running
2.2bar now to get 385hp, turbo housing wide open
Wayne



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-22-2011

I linked to Waynes youtubeclip on one of Swedens larges comunnity, garaget.org.
The clip has over 3000 views in 24 hours, for the moment the most popular clip on the whole site.

http://www.garaget.org/video/

There is a BIG intrest in this kind of tuning in Sweden.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - tomnik - 11-22-2011

OMG,

please don't tell them that my elements are in this pump I can't supply the demand.Big Grin

there are so many similar videos on youtube what is so special on Wayne's?

Tom

(11-22-2011, 01:17 AM)dieselmeken I linked to Waynes youtubeclip on one of Swedens larges comunnity, garaget.org.
The clip has over 3000 views in 24 hours, for the moment the most popular clip on the whole site.

http://www.garaget.org/video/

There is a BIG intrest in this kind of tuning in Sweden.




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - iheartboost - 11-22-2011

whats special about waynes is everyone knows an awesome guy that lives in sweden that can get it done for them.

i think he goes by dieselmeken Wink lol


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - George3soccer - 11-22-2011

Excuse me guys. I am pretty sure I should be getting a pump done by Goran very shortly, and not some joe smo.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - iheartboost - 11-22-2011

i want a pump from goran Sad i has no monies though oh well. eventually!


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-22-2011

(11-22-2011, 08:24 AM)iheartboost whats special about waynes is everyone knows an awesome guy that lives in sweden that can get it done for them.

i think he goes by dieselmeken Wink lol

SmileSmile




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - Captain America - 11-22-2011

I havent got any stickers yet Undecided Sad Huh


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - iheartboost - 11-22-2011

(11-22-2011, 05:02 PM)Captain America I havent got any stickers yet Undecided Sad Huh

same!! its e300tsc's fault! he is keeping them for himself! lol



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - EDH_Performance - 11-22-2011

I`ve got mineWink


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - pp d - 11-23-2011

(11-22-2011, 04:34 AM)tomnik there are so many similar videos on youtube what is so special on Wayne's?

Tom

I wonder that too.
I think it was about in year 2003 I made a pump for OM601 with 7 mm elements for a guy who took this kind of video and put it to Youtube.....



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-23-2011

(11-23-2011, 12:59 AM)pp d
(11-22-2011, 04:34 AM)tomnik there are so many similar videos on youtube what is so special on Wayne's?

Tom

I wonder that too.
I think it was about in year 2003 I made a pump for OM601 with 7 mm elements for a guy who took this kind of video and put it to Youtube.....

Whats the problem?
It´s all about marketing, if you did it in 2003, why dont show it? And you did 385 BHP from a OM601 with 7 mm element?
I did it in 2011 and in 48 hours 3000 views. Thats good marketing I think. It gives me a lot of jobs & inquiries anyway, and I dont complain over that.




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - pp d - 11-23-2011

No beans Wink
Nothing against the marketing.
The point is that there is no need 385 hp to do that kind of burning.

And no, there was no 385 hp in that 200 D Big Grin

But like jeemu says: some people talk, some people do.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - Savitas - 11-23-2011

Qeustion to Mantahead: you have 385 hp, but how much torque your enigne gives? Can we see the curve of torque?




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-23-2011

(11-23-2011, 04:08 AM)Savitas Qeustion to Mantahead: you have 385 hp, but how much torque your enigne gives? Can we see the curve of torque?
hi,
here is a dyno graph overlapped. The red graph is turbo housing half closed which gives more torque, althought the pump timing was not correct on this run.
You can see the difference in spool up.
Now that i have the desired rpm i will work on manifold and new turbo housing and some engine work to increase power and torque.


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RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - iheartboost - 11-24-2011

goddddddddd i want to have 400 ft/lbs lol


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - sassparilla_kid - 11-24-2011

^^^plus 1 to that!!!!


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - erling66 - 11-25-2011

(11-24-2011, 09:53 AM)iheartboost goddddddddd i want to have 400 ft/lbs lol

The Finns have 600-700+ ft/lbs. The are miles ahead of the rest of us, so guess who I am trying to imitate?Smile
Congratulations to you mantahead, you have put Ireland on the map closer to Finland. I am sure with a new manifold, some head work and maybe a new intake?, you will be even closer to the Finns. Imagine going to Finland on a dragrace and beat some of them? that would be somethingBig Grin


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-25-2011

(11-25-2011, 04:32 AM)erling66
(11-24-2011, 09:53 AM)iheartboost goddddddddd i want to have 400 ft/lbs lol

The Finns have 600-700+ ft/lbs. The are miles ahead of the rest of us, so guess who I am trying to imitate?Smile
Congratulations to you mantahead, you have put Ireland on the map closer to Finland. I am sure with a new manifold, some head work and maybe a new intake?, you will be even closer to the Finns. Imagine going to Finland on a dragrace and beat some of them? that would be somethingBig Grin




Hi,
You will find that they have 600 to 700 NM which is not lb ft. For example on Jeemu 466hp run he had 662nm which is 488 lb ft. Check ouy his graph under. OM605 dyno thread
Wayne


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - erling66 - 11-25-2011

Sorry for the mistake, that puts you closer to them Smile


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - HughF_UK - 11-25-2011

(11-23-2011, 03:33 AM)pp d No beans Wink
Nothing against the marketing.
The point is that there is no need 385 hp to do that kind of burning.

And no, there was no 385 hp in that 200 D Big Grin

But like jeemu says: some people talk, some people do.

Pasi built my Pump, because when I did it, 9 months ago, Goran wasn't on here and I hadn't spoken with him.

I think it is very good that we can find people all over europe to do these pumps - I know there is that guy in holland too who does them. There is also a guy here in the UK who makes pulling pumps for ford/newholland (simms maximec etc).

Pasi, perhaps you should make some videos, unless you are already so busy with work?


Hugh


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-25-2011

(11-25-2011, 12:11 PM)HughF_UK
(11-23-2011, 03:33 AM)pp d No beans Wink
Nothing against the marketing.
The point is that there is no need 385 hp to do that kind of burning.

And no, there was no 385 hp in that 200 D Big Grin

But like jeemu says: some people talk, some people do.


Pasi, perhaps you should make some videos, unless you are already so busy with work?


Hugh
Yea Come on Pasi Make a video the way I do it,



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-25-2011

hi,
look what came in the post.

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Its my 12cm housing that came from Canada. Maybe see more torque now with this and with new manifold and hopefully more power.

wayne


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - pp d - 11-26-2011

(11-25-2011, 12:58 PM)dieselmeken
(11-25-2011, 12:11 PM)HughF_UK
(11-23-2011, 03:33 AM)pp d No beans Wink
Nothing against the marketing.
The point is that there is no need 385 hp to do that kind of burning.

And no, there was no 385 hp in that 200 D Big Grin

But like jeemu says: some people talk, some people do.


Pasi, perhaps you should make some videos, unless you are already so busy with work?


Hugh
Yea Come on Pasi Make a video the way I do it,

There is three reasons why I don´t make videos:

-I have no time to do them
-I don´t like to keep noise about me and myself
-I think everyone has heard Häkkinen and Mäkinen speaking English?
Well, they speak good Big Grin




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-26-2011

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I think everyone has heard Häkkinen and Mäkinen speaking English?
Well, they speak good Big Grin


[/quote]

Thats just the reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIq3UhoB-M


Also, Today I bougt myself a 1997 C250 Turbodiesel with the OM605 engine, so Wayne; You got yourself a contender now in the challange.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-26-2011

hi Goran,
is it auto or manual?
What turbo are you going to use?

wayne







I think everyone has heard Häkkinen and Mäkinen speaking English?
Well, they speak good Big Grin


[/quote]

Thats just the reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIq3UhoB-M


Also, Today I bougt myself a 1997 C250 Turbodiesel with the OM605 engine, so Wayne; You got yourself a contender now in the challange.
[/quote]




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 11-27-2011

It´s a automatic, Dont know yet what turbo I going to use, but i am a big fan of Schwitzer turbos.
This is a winterproject, I dont have any more houses to build on, so now its time for a car again.
( Im also a carpenter, plumber, electrician, tiler on my sparetime)




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - JustPassinThru - 11-27-2011

(11-25-2011, 05:13 PM)mantahead hi,
look what came in the post...Its my 12cm housing that came from Canada...

Um, is that for a GT22V? If yes, where do I get one? I sent off my GT22V's exhaust housing three months ago to I-won't-say-who, to get a mating flange made, and it is beginning to look like I will never see that housing again...




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-28-2011

(11-27-2011, 07:22 PM)JustPassinThru
(11-25-2011, 05:13 PM)mantahead hi,
look what came in the post...Its my 12cm housing that came from Canada...

Um, is that for a GT22V? If yes, where do I get one? I sent off my GT22V's exhaust housing three months ago to I-won't-say-who, to get a mating flange made, and it is beginning to look like I will never see that housing again...
hi,
Its a 12cm housing for my hx35 holset

Wayne




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - JustPassinThru - 11-28-2011

Oh. Drat. I was looking at the "GT2256V" under your handle and had my hopes up... Tongue


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-28-2011

hi,
i have being doing some thinking, some people think i should be maybe making more power with my current set up. What i would like to know is:
Are there any dyno graphs out there of a completly standard om605 engine with bigger turbo and modified pump making more power????????

The other thing to remember is: if i run my car on inerita dyno it will make 400+bhp. I know this as i have a lot of experience with different types of dyno.

wayne.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - tomnik - 11-29-2011

Wayne,

from my side I was wondering about the flat at 5500.
Simply trying to understand what happens there.
This shape of the curve is similar to what you had in the past:
Climbing and suddenly flatting. Wasn't that the reason for increasing max. rpm?

Tom


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 11-29-2011

hi,
i didn't expect power to keep climbing over 5500rpm as i know this is nearly impossible on standard cams.

The reason i want the high rpm now is:
I intend doing some head and cam work to get the power to rise with rpm.
i only wanted to do the pump once, rather than sending it back to get more rpm and then send it back again etc.
I had to keep the engine standard at the minute for the challange to compare results.
Still, no one can show me standard om605 engine dyno graph to compare.

wayne


(11-29-2011, 01:13 AM)tomnik Wayne,

from my side I was wondering about the flat at 5500.
Simply trying to understand what happens there.
This shape of the curve is similar to what you had in the past:
Climbing and suddenly flatting. Wasn't that the reason for increasing max. rpm?

Tom




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - jeemu - 12-01-2011

(11-25-2011, 07:48 AM)mantahead Hi,
For example on Jeemu 466hp run he had 662nm which is 488 lb ft. Check ouy his graph under. OM605 dyno thread
Wayne
Is this the newest result you could find?



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 12-01-2011

(12-01-2011, 04:55 PM)jeemu
(11-25-2011, 07:48 AM)mantahead Hi,
For example on Jeemu 466hp run he had 662nm which is 488 lb ft. Check ouy his graph under. OM605 dyno thread
Wayne
Is this the newest result you could find?
hi,
i know you had 550hp but never seen the graph.
Hi, if you don't mind me asking, why on this 466hp graph does the hp and torque not cross over at 5250rpm?
usually on dyno graphs that use the same axis for hp and torque they always cross at 5250rpm.

wayne




RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - jeemu - 12-01-2011

Lines don't cross at 5250rpm because the units are hp and Nm, not hp and lb/ft. Also the lines don't cross if the torque and HP are scaled differently (Nm scale 0-1000Nm, HP scale 0-500hp for example)


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 12-15-2011

hi,
i was out drifting last sunday week ago.
I didn't get any videos but found these on youtube. You will see the merc, only diesel there. Don't forget this is only my second time drifting.

http://youtu.be/bMhdp_c4c5w

http://youtu.be/vW_fLCQ52nw

http://youtu.be/rIplGBEdXSg


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - jonbobshinigin - 12-15-2011

Looks like you are getting the hang of it! It looks really cool out there and seems to have sufficient power. Has anything been done with suspension?


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - iheartboost - 12-15-2011

definitely the best sounding thing there!


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 12-16-2011

(12-15-2011, 08:59 PM)jonbobshinigin Looks like you are getting the hang of it! It looks really cool out there and seems to have sufficient power. Has anything been done with suspension?
hi,
yea, starting to get the feel for it. I have slk lowering springs that i modified and cut a coil off. I also shortened the back shocks.
I give her a blast in third on the straight with some traction and she pulled 95mph before i had to brake for the corner.
It has plenty of power for drifting. I want to drag race it next year as well.



RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - drumbreda - 12-21-2011

http://youtu.be/rIplGBEdXSg

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RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - Captain America - 12-22-2011

Nice video Drumbreda!

Manta pooping on the car at the end Heart


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 04-07-2012

hi,
at the last days drifting i had some overheating problems due to bursted radiator. Then i had no compression. I never opened the engine until last week. I have drag racing next sunday that i want to go to as i never got last year.

Engine results:
badly blown head gasket
valves not seating properly
cam chain sprocket bolts had came loose.

This is head from my other engine which had leaking valves in cyclinder 3
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This engine also had one bad piston. It looks like it has taken something through at a time.

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i kinda made 1 good engine from 2 bad ones.


[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4NzAtMjAxMjA0MDUtMTQwOC5qcGc.jpg]


All back together and in car. Should be up and running over Easter holidays






RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - pwogaman - 04-08-2012

(04-07-2012, 05:45 PM)mantahead hi,
at the last days drifting i had some overheating problems due to bursted radiator. Then i had no compression. I never opened the engine until last week. I have drag racing next sunday that i want to go to as i never got last year.

Engine results:
badly blown head gasket
valves not seating properly
cam chain sprocket bolts had came loose.

This is head from my other engine which had leaking valves in cyclinder 3
[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4NjctMjAxMjA0MDQtMTkzMC5qcGc.jpg]

This engine also had one bad piston. It looks like it has taken something through at a time.

[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4NjUtMjAxMjA0MDQtMTkyOS5qcGc.jpg]


[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4NDktMjAxMjA0MDItMTgxNS5qcGc.jpg]

i kinda made 1 good engine from 2 bad ones.


[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4NzAtMjAxMjA0MDUtMTQwOC5qcGc.jpg]


All back together and in car. Should be up and running over Easter holidays

Yikes! Do you have a picture of the bits that were floating around in the cylinder?


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 04-08-2012

hi,
there where no pieces in there. She must have spat them out the exhaust.
This must have happened before i got the engine. Engine was still running good but with lower compression on cyclinder 3.


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - dieselmeken - 04-09-2012

Hey Wayne, Easter holiday is over, did you get your engine fired up, and how does it sound with your new camshafts?


RE: A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!! - mantahead - 04-09-2012

(04-09-2012, 12:01 PM)dieselmeken Hey Wayne, Easter holiday is over, did you get your engine fired up, and how does it sound with your new camshafts?
hi,
wasn't working today. Never got her fired up yet.
I am still running standard cams on this om605.