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Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-18-2011
One-piece flange for OM606:
http://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar/flansar-och-packningar/topplocksflans-10-mm/mercedes-300d-24v-hel-10mm.html
Two-piece flange for OM606:
http://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar/flansar-och-packningar/topplocksflans-10-mm/mercedes-300d-24v-10mm.html
One-piece flange for OM603:
http://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar/flansar-och-packningar/topplocksflans-10-mm/mercedes-300d-12v-hel-10mm.html
I tried to put the one-piece OM606 flange in the virtual shopping cart...and I don't know Swedish...but based on the fact that it gave me a "go ahead" and a "go back" option - that tells me that they don't stock them and that you will get it when it's ready. Not the end of the world by any stretch of the imagination...but a word of caution.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - iheartboost - 08-19-2011
thats a pretty good price. i may have to buy one when im ready for a different manifold.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-21-2011
I just ordered a one-piece manifold flange for the OM606 from KL Racing in Sweden.
Total price (including shipping) = 105 Euro
I will take pictures and show fitment on one of the OM606's when it arrives.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jonbobshinigin - 08-22-2011
So...what exactly is the purpose of having a flange? Is it just to create clearance?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-22-2011
(08-22-2011, 08:38 PM)jonbobshinigin So...what exactly is the purpose of having a flange? Is it just to create clearance?
The flange allows me to weld up a custom tubular exhaust manifold.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 08-23-2011
I just bought one
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-24-2011
From our friends at KKD Motorsport in Finland:
Tubular exhaust manifold for OM606 - it is a thing of beauty:
http://www.kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=1270712169&k=1270679050
"Jeemu style" tubular exhaust manifold for OM605:
http://www.kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=1270711813&k=1270679050
Tubular exhaust manifold for OM603 with provisions for external wastegate (very nice!):
http://www.kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=1270711698&k=1270679050
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jonbobshinigin - 08-24-2011
I'm feeling insecure about my euro manifold now...
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-27-2011
(08-24-2011, 10:57 PM)jonbobshinigin I'm feeling insecure about my euro manifold now...
I hear ya - after seeing those Finnish manifolds, I'm not so sure I can make anything myself that will hold a candle to what they came up with. However, with the price of the flange from Sweden and some weld ells, I can experiment a bit and have some fun.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jonbobshinigin - 08-27-2011
You guys get some CAD templatesor whatever is used an I can get some flanges cut I bet. A place I used to work has a plasma machine.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 08-28-2011
If only I were better at using SolidWorks, I'd take you up on that offer.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 09-15-2011
Got my flange last week...this is the only picture I have of it so far.
It was definitely cut on a plasma table - so far I'm impressed with the quality based only on a quick visual inspection.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - oel_brenner - 09-29-2011
(09-15-2011, 12:24 AM)HoleshotHolset Got my flange last week...this is the only picture I have of it so far.
It was definitely cut on a plasma table - so far I'm impressed with the quality based only on a quick visual inspection.
do you have any more pics ?
how did you order it ? online ?
Have you started welding on it yet ?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - George3soccer - 09-29-2011
Looking to pick up one of those 603 manifolds, in the next few months if everything line up correctly. Let you guys know when I do recieve it.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - HoleshotHolset - 11-10-2011
(09-29-2011, 09:20 AM)oel_brenner do you have any more pics ?
how did you order it ? online ?
Have you started welding on it yet ?
No.
The site is not in English so you have to click around a bit - no worries, their sales/support staff speak English perfectly well via email: http://shop.klracing.se/
No - not yet. It's currently sitting on the floor behind the driver's seat of my totaled W210.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - oel_brenner - 11-10-2011
I decided to make my own
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=3085
thanks for the info though.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - iheartboost - 11-10-2011
so ya dont want your euro 603 mani jonbob? ill take it
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-04-2011
I bought the one piece OM606 flange and made this fo my W201 190D
![[Image: IMG_3238.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_3238.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_3241.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_3241.jpg)
Stock vs beauty:
![[Image: IMG_3285.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_3285.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_3286.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_3286.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_3291.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_3291.jpg)
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - hansebanger77 - 12-04-2011
Wow so nice!
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - George3soccer - 12-04-2011
that looks fantastic, good job.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - iheartboost - 12-04-2011
why did you have the turbo mount underneath the manifold / so low?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-05-2011
(12-04-2011, 11:20 PM)iheartboost why did you have the turbo mount underneath the manifold / so low?
It`s colder down there, than up under the hood
And i get a downpipe without to many sharp bends. And it was much easier to make the manifold with the turbo down there...
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - iheartboost - 12-05-2011
yea that makes sense. if i ever get to a point to where im gonna build a manifold i have to figure out what would be the easiest to do lol. my skills and equipment is quite limited. ( as far as fabrication)
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - hansebanger77 - 12-05-2011
hey i see a weld intake!
can u uppload some picture please?
what about performance difference to the stock NA intake? i've only weled a peace of a alu pipe on it...
thx
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-05-2011
Here is the intake i made for my compressor intake:
![[Image: IMG_0780.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_0780.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0781.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_0781.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0796.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_0796.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0810.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_0810.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0812.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/volvoturbopower/W201/IMG_0812.jpg)
I can`t tell if it was better than the N\A intake, because i never preassured the N\A intake
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - hansebanger77 - 12-05-2011
oops there is a compressor under the hood
I thought this is just a housing or air collector for performance..
but wow nice projekt!
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - kotka - 12-11-2011
just wonder -do you plan to have both turbo and compressor installed? i don't see both of them connected to intake
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-11-2011
(12-11-2011, 01:54 PM)kotka just wonder -do you plan to have both turbo and compressor installed? i don't see both of them connected to intake
yes, both will be installed! Have just made the manifold, i picked up my intercooler and h-profile rods this weekend. Can`t wait to put the turbo block togheter
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - kotka - 12-12-2011
ok - i wonder - will you have any back pressure issue....i hope not much as turbo is quite laggish but on the other hand you probably need to somehow block air flow produced by compressor back to turbo.
waiting for your tests
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-12-2011
(12-12-2011, 12:22 AM)kotka ok - i wonder - will you have any back pressure issue....i hope not much as turbo is quite laggish but on the other hand you probably need to somehow block air flow produced by compressor back to turbo.
waiting for your tests
I haven`t tested it yet, but i hope i don`t get high back preassure..Who knows, it has to be tested
I will make a Project tread soon
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - kotka - 12-12-2011
good luck. But my god feeling tells you will see back pressure issue...RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-12-2011
(12-12-2011, 11:41 AM)kotka
Why?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - kotka - 12-13-2011
Turbo starts producing massive air flow at the rpms when compressor is at max output. If you don't have reverse pressure valve in the intake hose from turbo - the pressure produced by compressor will push turbo flow back until the pressure produced by turbo overrides the same from compressor. But in this case you will see compressor being unable to override increased pressure. I would assume it can start heating additionally.
This is my pure theoretical guess. If it's correct - you will need two reverse pressure valves calibrated appripriatelly - one for turbo, another for compressor hose.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - yankneck696 - 12-13-2011
Wht not just compound them? Turbo feeding supercharger? I believe the M90 Eaton has a built in bypass too, although it is small.
Ed
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - EDH_Performance - 12-13-2011
(12-13-2011, 03:47 AM)kotka Turbo starts producing massive air flow at the rpms when compressor is at max output. If you don't have reverse pressure valve in the intake hose from turbo - the pressure produced by compressor will push turbo flow back until the pressure produced by turbo overrides the same from compressor. But in this case you will see compressor being unable to override increased pressure. I would assume it can start heating additionally.
This is my pure theoretical guess. If it's correct - you will need two reverse pressure valves calibrated appripriatelly - one for turbo, another for compressor hose.
Good theory!
But I`m planning to build an override valve, that opens at around 1 bar(max preassure from compressor). So the turbo will blow freely into the intakeplenum! I have some plans to build compound too, but space is an big issue!
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - kotka - 12-13-2011
good to see you've thought of this in advance - more pics then
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - mantahead - 03-08-2012
hi,
just got om606 exhaust manifold flanges cut with cad high pressure water cutter. they are 10mm stainless.
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4MDUtMjAxMjAzMDYtMTcwOC5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA4MDUtMjAxMjAzMDYtMTcwOC5qcGc.jpg)
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA4MDYtMjAxMjAzMDYtMTcwOS5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA4MDYtMjAxMjAzMDYtMTcwOS5qcGc.jpg)
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - mantahead - 03-18-2012
hi,
can sell these for £75 if anyone interested.
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jeemu - 03-24-2012
On KKD flanges you can order smaller holes, so you can start tube largen straight on the flange
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - mantahead - 03-25-2012
(03-24-2012, 03:02 PM)jeemu On KKD flanges you can order smaller holes, so you can start tube largen straight on the flangehi
these flanges come with bigger holes on the ports for heads that are ported and polished so not to restrict flow. do you mean bolt holes?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jeemu - 03-26-2012
(03-25-2012, 05:23 PM)mantaheadNot mean bolt holes(03-24-2012, 03:02 PM)jeemu On KKD flanges you can order smaller holes, so you can start tube largen straight on the flangehi
these flanges come with bigger holes on the ports for heads that are ported and polished so not to restrict flow. do you mean bolt holes?
I have also ported head by big hand, but still those KKD small hole flanges are better RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - mantahead - 03-26-2012
(03-26-2012, 02:37 PM)jeemuare the smaller holes smaller than the ports in the head ? What is the advantage?(03-25-2012, 05:23 PM)mantaheadNot mean bolt holes(03-24-2012, 03:02 PM)jeemu On KKD flanges you can order smaller holes, so you can start tube largen straight on the flangehi
these flanges come with bigger holes on the ports for heads that are ported and polished so not to restrict flow. do you mean bolt holes?
The holes in my flange are only slightly bigger than the gasket holes.
what size of pipe do you use on your 550bhp manifold?
RE: Swedish made exhaust manifold flanges for OM603, OM606 - jeemu - 03-27-2012
(03-26-2012, 05:56 PM)mantaheadHole is bigger on the head side and smaller on exhaust side like this / \ do you now got what mean, dont know better words to tell it(03-26-2012, 02:37 PM)jeemuare the smaller holes smaller than the ports in the head ? What is the advantage?(03-25-2012, 05:23 PM)mantahead hiNot mean bolt holes
these flanges come with bigger holes on the ports for heads that are ported and polished so not to restrict flow. do you mean bolt holes?
The holes in my flange are only slightly bigger than the gasket holes.
what size of pipe do you use on your 550bhp manifold?