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Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota....

Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota....

 
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Thomcat316
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04-06-2015, 10:10 AM #10
(04-03-2015, 09:25 AM)CRD4x4 Thomcat,
I'm really digging your small diesel 5th wheel project but I wonder if a Dakota is the right truck for the job. I'm interested as to why you chose this dodge as you're base.

Why the Dakota? Four doors, seats five, good long-haul driveability, low donor cost, good chassis/body/interior parts availability, "midsize" allows easy parking when it's split from the trailer, very tight turning radius, available in 2WD. Other possibilities explored were: Dodge and Chevy 1500 crew cab (too big), S10 Crew Cab (too rare), Colorado crew cab (too costly), Tacoma crew cab (too rare, too costly).

Quote:I've had similar thoughts in the past and settled on a Willys/Jeep FC170 dually as my ideal base for a small 5th wheel. They're not easy to find but they offer so many advantages with their 4wd cabover design over conventional truck layouts.

Looks like a blast! I'd probably do an Isuzu NPR or Mitsubishi Fuso if I were heading to bigger/heavier. Actually did a set of comparison designs for a self-contained (Class A?) motorhome based on both the long-frame Isuzu and on a frame-stretched Tahoe. Turned out that neither met the needs I had in mind.

Quote:The OM606 is so much more powerful than the OM617 so I'd stick with that.
Mating with a manual can be challenging  (where I'm currently stuck) or costly but can be done with bellhousing chop & weld.

Looking forward to playing with it! I see where 4x4 Labs uses a Ford V10 starter for their adapter plate, so there's a lot of research I don't have to do right off the bat!

Quote:Would you use a Sonoma again? I've inherited a low miles 03 with 2.2 auto & have been trying to sell or trade it locally for something more fun/diesel.

My 1996 ExtCab 2.2 2WD Sonoma is my daily driver, and runs like a happy little watch. I'll be getting this Dakota to convert to a dedicated tow vehicle, but will be keeping the Sonoma. I like how simple it is to work on, and as a GM vehicle with over 200K miles this is a factor.... ;-)

Quote:I'd love to hear more about your trailer too!

To keep from going too far off topic here in DieselLand, here's links:
Pondering: http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=42048
Build Journal: http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=44293
Thomcat316
04-06-2015, 10:10 AM #10

(04-03-2015, 09:25 AM)CRD4x4 Thomcat,
I'm really digging your small diesel 5th wheel project but I wonder if a Dakota is the right truck for the job. I'm interested as to why you chose this dodge as you're base.

Why the Dakota? Four doors, seats five, good long-haul driveability, low donor cost, good chassis/body/interior parts availability, "midsize" allows easy parking when it's split from the trailer, very tight turning radius, available in 2WD. Other possibilities explored were: Dodge and Chevy 1500 crew cab (too big), S10 Crew Cab (too rare), Colorado crew cab (too costly), Tacoma crew cab (too rare, too costly).

Quote:I've had similar thoughts in the past and settled on a Willys/Jeep FC170 dually as my ideal base for a small 5th wheel. They're not easy to find but they offer so many advantages with their 4wd cabover design over conventional truck layouts.

Looks like a blast! I'd probably do an Isuzu NPR or Mitsubishi Fuso if I were heading to bigger/heavier. Actually did a set of comparison designs for a self-contained (Class A?) motorhome based on both the long-frame Isuzu and on a frame-stretched Tahoe. Turned out that neither met the needs I had in mind.

Quote:The OM606 is so much more powerful than the OM617 so I'd stick with that.
Mating with a manual can be challenging  (where I'm currently stuck) or costly but can be done with bellhousing chop & weld.

Looking forward to playing with it! I see where 4x4 Labs uses a Ford V10 starter for their adapter plate, so there's a lot of research I don't have to do right off the bat!

Quote:Would you use a Sonoma again? I've inherited a low miles 03 with 2.2 auto & have been trying to sell or trade it locally for something more fun/diesel.

My 1996 ExtCab 2.2 2WD Sonoma is my daily driver, and runs like a happy little watch. I'll be getting this Dakota to convert to a dedicated tow vehicle, but will be keeping the Sonoma. I like how simple it is to work on, and as a GM vehicle with over 200K miles this is a factor.... ;-)

Quote:I'd love to hear more about your trailer too!

To keep from going too far off topic here in DieselLand, here's links:
Pondering: http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=42048
Build Journal: http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=44293

 
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Messages In This Thread
Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-01-2015, 02:57 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Petar - 04-01-2015, 03:20 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-01-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by raysorenson - 04-02-2015, 11:58 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-02-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Petar - 04-02-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by CRD4x4 - 04-03-2015, 09:25 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-03-2015, 11:11 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Petar - 04-03-2015, 04:33 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Simpler=Better - 06-11-2015, 06:55 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-06-2015, 10:10 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-06-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by raysorenson - 04-07-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 04-08-2015, 12:37 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by raysorenson - 04-09-2015, 07:44 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by zeeman - 04-25-2015, 06:02 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 05-05-2015, 12:18 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Thomcat316 - 05-05-2015, 02:18 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by 74Dusted - 06-10-2015, 11:33 AM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by raysorenson - 06-10-2015, 12:33 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by Austincarnut - 06-11-2015, 07:53 PM
RE: Planning a swap into a 2nd Gen Dakota.... - by turbojeep - 06-17-2015, 05:18 PM
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