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Insane190d
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09-26-2014, 07:21 AM #51
So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!
Insane190d
09-26-2014, 07:21 AM #51

So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!

winmutt
bitbanger

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09-26-2014, 10:34 AM #52
The intercooler picture thread is probably a good start. That and looking through the projects section.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
09-26-2014, 10:34 AM #52

The intercooler picture thread is probably a good start. That and looking through the projects section.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Duncansport
Holset

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09-26-2014, 02:13 PM #53
(09-26-2014, 07:21 AM)Insane190d So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!

Keep it simple, get the right sized urbo an a good manifold and drive it to sort out all the other bugs. If your unhappy with it after you dial it all in THEN try to go for the SC route...
Duncansport
09-26-2014, 02:13 PM #53

(09-26-2014, 07:21 AM)Insane190d So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!

Keep it simple, get the right sized urbo an a good manifold and drive it to sort out all the other bugs. If your unhappy with it after you dial it all in THEN try to go for the SC route...

Insane190d
GT2256V

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09-26-2014, 04:58 PM #54
(09-26-2014, 02:13 PM)Duncansport
(09-26-2014, 07:21 AM)Insane190d So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!

Keep it simple, get the right sized urbo an a good manifold and drive it to sort out all the other bugs. If your unhappy with it after you dial it all in THEN try to go for the SC route...

I think the hx35 is a pretty good match just wanted it to spool around 1800 2000rpm instead or 3000 3500....
Insane190d
09-26-2014, 04:58 PM #54

(09-26-2014, 02:13 PM)Duncansport
(09-26-2014, 07:21 AM)Insane190d So is there any good info and pics on here on some supercharger / turbo set ups?
I have a supercharger off a 3.8l buick that looks like it is a good size and would work good. Not sure really on how to go about with piping and setup
Is it worth putting a supercharger on my om603 for instant boost? INFO PLEASE!

Keep it simple, get the right sized urbo an a good manifold and drive it to sort out all the other bugs. If your unhappy with it after you dial it all in THEN try to go for the SC route...

I think the hx35 is a pretty good match just wanted it to spool around 1800 2000rpm instead or 3000 3500....

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
09-26-2014, 06:28 PM #55
How much boost do you have at 2000? The stocker is around .7-.8 bar at 2k. Is the HX35 very far off from that?
raysorenson
09-26-2014, 06:28 PM #55

How much boost do you have at 2000? The stocker is around .7-.8 bar at 2k. Is the HX35 very far off from that?

Insane190d
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09-26-2014, 07:12 PM #56
(09-26-2014, 06:28 PM)raysorenson How much boost do you have at 2000? The stocker is around .7-.8 bar at 2k. Is the HX35 very far off from that?
Yea its about that hit max boost in the 3000rpm range
Insane190d
09-26-2014, 07:12 PM #56

(09-26-2014, 06:28 PM)raysorenson How much boost do you have at 2000? The stocker is around .7-.8 bar at 2k. Is the HX35 very far off from that?
Yea its about that hit max boost in the 3000rpm range

Insane190d
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10-16-2014, 05:20 PM #57
Update on car. Its been running great. Boost set at around 35psi. Engine and egt stay cool. Tranny getting tired but holding up. Soon will blow. Ran a 15.6 sec 1/4 mile at 101mph and a 15.3 1/4 mile at 98mph. Not too bad for a transmission that slips bad going into 2nd and on an open road. Going to a real track this weekend!
Insane190d
10-16-2014, 05:20 PM #57

Update on car. Its been running great. Boost set at around 35psi. Engine and egt stay cool. Tranny getting tired but holding up. Soon will blow. Ran a 15.6 sec 1/4 mile at 101mph and a 15.3 1/4 mile at 98mph. Not too bad for a transmission that slips bad going into 2nd and on an open road. Going to a real track this weekend!

raysorenson
Superturbo

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10-16-2014, 05:47 PM #58
Do you have stock valve springs?
raysorenson
10-16-2014, 05:47 PM #58

Do you have stock valve springs?

Insane190d
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10-16-2014, 07:57 PM #59
(10-16-2014, 05:47 PM)raysorenson Do you have stock valve springs?

Yea
Insane190d
10-16-2014, 07:57 PM #59

(10-16-2014, 05:47 PM)raysorenson Do you have stock valve springs?

Yea

Insane190d
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11-18-2014, 09:10 AM #60
Update on car, still running good. Did a 14.9 quarter mile at 99mph at the track. That's with a very weak transmission, 3rd gear shift slips pretty good so think it would easily do low 14.
BUT I have another project in mind. Just picked up a 98 e300 diesel... runs and drives good. 215,000miles. So im thinking of selling the 87 and looking for a newer w124 that has an n/a om606 and swapping the turbo om606 into it. While on the search for one think ill pull the engine outa the 210 and building it. (W210 pretty rusty)
Any suggestions or ideas for me? Maybe what should be done with engine before hooking big fuel and air to it. (Fresh headgasket, valve job...ect?)
Insane190d
11-18-2014, 09:10 AM #60

Update on car, still running good. Did a 14.9 quarter mile at 99mph at the track. That's with a very weak transmission, 3rd gear shift slips pretty good so think it would easily do low 14.
BUT I have another project in mind. Just picked up a 98 e300 diesel... runs and drives good. 215,000miles. So im thinking of selling the 87 and looking for a newer w124 that has an n/a om606 and swapping the turbo om606 into it. While on the search for one think ill pull the engine outa the 210 and building it. (W210 pretty rusty)
Any suggestions or ideas for me? Maybe what should be done with engine before hooking big fuel and air to it. (Fresh headgasket, valve job...ect?)

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
11-18-2014, 09:21 AM #61
Interesting, was that at 100cc output still?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
11-18-2014, 09:21 AM #61

Interesting, was that at 100cc output still?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Insane190d
GT2256V

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11-18-2014, 09:25 AM #62
(11-18-2014, 09:21 AM)winmutt Interesting, was that at 100cc output still?

Yea right around that and the throttle lever doesnt even reach for full fuel so probly around 90 to 100cc.

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Insane190d
11-18-2014, 09:25 AM #62

(11-18-2014, 09:21 AM)winmutt Interesting, was that at 100cc output still?

Yea right around that and the throttle lever doesnt even reach for full fuel so probly around 90 to 100cc.

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raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-18-2014, 11:20 AM #63
Making use of that 722.6 trans might be a better idea than going to a manual trans.
raysorenson
11-18-2014, 11:20 AM #63

Making use of that 722.6 trans might be a better idea than going to a manual trans.

Insane190d
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11-18-2014, 12:37 PM #64
(11-18-2014, 11:20 AM)raysorenson Making use of that 722.6 trans might be a better idea than going to a manual trans.

Is that the trans in the 98? Thats what I was thinking. Id like to build it to hold high power and maybe a manual shift valve body? So the 98 trans is a good one to build? Where do you find performance parts for these autos?
Insane190d
11-18-2014, 12:37 PM #64

(11-18-2014, 11:20 AM)raysorenson Making use of that 722.6 trans might be a better idea than going to a manual trans.

Is that the trans in the 98? Thats what I was thinking. Id like to build it to hold high power and maybe a manual shift valve body? So the 98 trans is a good one to build? Where do you find performance parts for these autos?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-18-2014, 02:36 PM #65
The stall converters are more expensive than the run of the mill Chevy and Ford autos, but they're out there. You'll need a controller for it, Olefejer on this board makes a very good one that does a ton of other stuff too. his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCJDMT...s3bDbNaC2w

Google 722.6, 5g-tronic, NAG1. You'll find lots of stuff.
raysorenson
11-18-2014, 02:36 PM #65

The stall converters are more expensive than the run of the mill Chevy and Ford autos, but they're out there. You'll need a controller for it, Olefejer on this board makes a very good one that does a ton of other stuff too. his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCJDMT...s3bDbNaC2w

Google 722.6, 5g-tronic, NAG1. You'll find lots of stuff.

Insane190d
GT2256V

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11-18-2014, 06:01 PM #66
(11-18-2014, 02:36 PM)raysorenson The stall converters are more expensive than the run of the mill Chevy and Ford autos, but they're out there. You'll need a controller for it, Olefejer on this board makes a very good one that does a ton of other stuff too. his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCJDMT...s3bDbNaC2w

Google 722.6, 5g-tronic, NAG1. You'll find lots of stuff.

Ok cool, looks like ill be building an auto
Insane190d
11-18-2014, 06:01 PM #66

(11-18-2014, 02:36 PM)raysorenson The stall converters are more expensive than the run of the mill Chevy and Ford autos, but they're out there. You'll need a controller for it, Olefejer on this board makes a very good one that does a ton of other stuff too. his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCJDMT...s3bDbNaC2w

Google 722.6, 5g-tronic, NAG1. You'll find lots of stuff.

Ok cool, looks like ill be building an auto

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
11-19-2014, 01:12 PM #67
Nice first gen!

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
11-19-2014, 01:12 PM #67

Nice first gen!


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Insane190d
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11-19-2014, 05:00 PM #68
(11-19-2014, 01:12 PM)MFSuper90 Nice first gen!

Thanks. Its an Arizona truck, no rust. Thats my other project
Insane190d
11-19-2014, 05:00 PM #68

(11-19-2014, 01:12 PM)MFSuper90 Nice first gen!

Thanks. Its an Arizona truck, no rust. Thats my other project

Insane190d
GT2256V

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11-22-2014, 10:04 AM #69
Anyone have any thoughts on what to do to the 606 while its outta the car? New chain, it has 215,000miles should I put a new headgasket and bolts on or leave it alone /un opened (runs great). Any input
Insane190d
11-22-2014, 10:04 AM #69

Anyone have any thoughts on what to do to the 606 while its outta the car? New chain, it has 215,000miles should I put a new headgasket and bolts on or leave it alone /un opened (runs great). Any input

swatmugga
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11-22-2014, 11:15 AM #70
Replace glow Plugs Wink
swatmugga
11-22-2014, 11:15 AM #70

Replace glow Plugs Wink

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
11-22-2014, 04:49 PM #71
I don't think you will have to do the chain so early, only 215 000 miles, but take off the valve cover and check for strectch anyway
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...retch.html
Petar
11-22-2014, 04:49 PM #71

I don't think you will have to do the chain so early, only 215 000 miles, but take off the valve cover and check for strectch anyway
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...retch.html

Insane190d
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11-22-2014, 05:07 PM #72
(11-22-2014, 04:49 PM)Petar I don't think you will have to do the chain so early, only 215 000 miles, but take off the valve cover and check for strectch anyway
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...retch.html

Ok thanks. Thought Mercedes recommended around 150,000 miles or so

(11-22-2014, 11:15 AM)swatmugga Replace glow Plugs Wink

Sounds good ill do that
This post was last modified: 11-22-2014, 05:28 PM by Insane190d.
Insane190d
11-22-2014, 05:07 PM #72

(11-22-2014, 04:49 PM)Petar I don't think you will have to do the chain so early, only 215 000 miles, but take off the valve cover and check for strectch anyway
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...retch.html

Ok thanks. Thought Mercedes recommended around 150,000 miles or so

(11-22-2014, 11:15 AM)swatmugga Replace glow Plugs Wink

Sounds good ill do that

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
11-22-2014, 05:55 PM #73
Take it easy when removing the glow plugs, they can snap in the head and become a major problem.
I recommend getting the engine hot before trying to remove them since the head is aluminium and the glow plugs are steel. Aluminium expands more quickly than steel so they should be easier to remove.
Petar
11-22-2014, 05:55 PM #73

Take it easy when removing the glow plugs, they can snap in the head and become a major problem.
I recommend getting the engine hot before trying to remove them since the head is aluminium and the glow plugs are steel. Aluminium expands more quickly than steel so they should be easier to remove.

Insane190d
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11-24-2014, 06:21 PM #74
Sounds good. I'd like BIG horsepower 500++ figure ill just go to town on it. So whats it need for a safe 500 600hp goal.? Ive got the pump to do it
Insane190d
11-24-2014, 06:21 PM #74

Sounds good. I'd like BIG horsepower 500++ figure ill just go to town on it. So whats it need for a safe 500 600hp goal.? Ive got the pump to do it

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-24-2014, 06:28 PM #75
Header.
raysorenson
11-24-2014, 06:28 PM #75

Header.

Insane190d
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11-24-2014, 10:11 PM #76
(11-24-2014, 06:28 PM)raysorenson Header.

Just header? I definitely plan on that. How about rods block girdle valve train. ..?
Insane190d
11-24-2014, 10:11 PM #76

(11-24-2014, 06:28 PM)raysorenson Header.

Just header? I definitely plan on that. How about rods block girdle valve train. ..?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-24-2014, 10:46 PM #77
What's being repeated on this board is that 100hp/liter is possible on OM60x 4valve stock long block. 500 should be more realistic with high mileage. You need to monitor exhaust back pressure and EGT to make sure the system is efficient.
raysorenson
11-24-2014, 10:46 PM #77

What's being repeated on this board is that 100hp/liter is possible on OM60x 4valve stock long block. 500 should be more realistic with high mileage. You need to monitor exhaust back pressure and EGT to make sure the system is efficient.

swatmugga
GT2256V

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11-25-2014, 03:59 AM #78
are you using 716 gearbox too?
If you do what clutch are u using? My 220CDI Cluch burned last week ;(
swatmugga
11-25-2014, 03:59 AM #78

are you using 716 gearbox too?
If you do what clutch are u using? My 220CDI Cluch burned last week ;(

Insane190d
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11-25-2014, 06:15 AM #79
(11-24-2014, 10:46 PM)raysorenson What's being repeated on this board is that 100hp/liter is possible on OM60x 4valve stock long block. 500 should be more realistic with high mileage. You need to monitor exhaust back pressure and EGT to make sure the system is efficient.

100hp a liter seems low being there only 3 liters. I like 100hp a cylinder better lol.

(11-25-2014, 03:59 AM)swatmugga are you using 716 gearbox too?
If you do what clutch are u using? My 220CDI Cluch burned last week ;(

Not sure what im gonna use for transmission. Im thinking the 722.6 I have is best, but I would love a manual. Just dont know what transmission will hold 500hp best. Even if I have to cut the bellhousing.
This post was last modified: 11-25-2014, 06:17 AM by Insane190d.
Insane190d
11-25-2014, 06:15 AM #79

(11-24-2014, 10:46 PM)raysorenson What's being repeated on this board is that 100hp/liter is possible on OM60x 4valve stock long block. 500 should be more realistic with high mileage. You need to monitor exhaust back pressure and EGT to make sure the system is efficient.

100hp a liter seems low being there only 3 liters. I like 100hp a cylinder better lol.

(11-25-2014, 03:59 AM)swatmugga are you using 716 gearbox too?
If you do what clutch are u using? My 220CDI Cluch burned last week ;(

Not sure what im gonna use for transmission. Im thinking the 722.6 I have is best, but I would love a manual. Just dont know what transmission will hold 500hp best. Even if I have to cut the bellhousing.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-25-2014, 09:06 AM #80
Haha, yeah, I meant per cyl.
raysorenson
11-25-2014, 09:06 AM #80

Haha, yeah, I meant per cyl.

Insane190d
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11-25-2014, 09:18 AM #81
(11-25-2014, 09:06 AM)raysorenson Haha, yeah, I meant per cyl.

Oh ok that sounds better Smile
Insane190d
11-25-2014, 09:18 AM #81

(11-25-2014, 09:06 AM)raysorenson Haha, yeah, I meant per cyl.

Oh ok that sounds better Smile

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