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bmw 330d 204cv

bmw 330d 204cv

 
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mao76
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03-03-2015, 08:42 AM #1
hello i have a bmw 330d 204cv exists a turbo for over 350cv variable geometry , or what do you recommend ?
mao76
03-03-2015, 08:42 AM #1

hello i have a bmw 330d 204cv exists a turbo for over 350cv variable geometry , or what do you recommend ?

mao76
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65
03-03-2015, 09:26 AM #2
holset hx35?
mao76
03-03-2015, 09:26 AM #2

holset hx35?

mao76
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03-03-2015, 09:58 AM #3
help me
mao76
03-03-2015, 09:58 AM #3

help me

TurboTim
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457
03-03-2015, 11:50 AM #4
HE351ve

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
03-03-2015, 11:50 AM #4

HE351ve


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
03-03-2015, 12:28 PM #5
Hi mao76. The best setup you can do is to take the complete exhaust manifold and turbos from a 335/535d and the injectors from the same car. There you have your 350hp.

Good luck.

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F.R.A.S
03-03-2015, 12:28 PM #5

Hi mao76. The best setup you can do is to take the complete exhaust manifold and turbos from a 335/535d and the injectors from the same car. There you have your 350hp.

Good luck.


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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

tuikku
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03-03-2015, 03:28 PM #6
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Ask Antonmies, or Majesty78.
tuikku
03-03-2015, 03:28 PM #6

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Ask Antonmies, or Majesty78.

Turbo
Holset

489
03-03-2015, 04:28 PM #7
(03-03-2015, 03:28 PM)tuikku Last I spoke with Majesty78 some days ago he does not do any costum turbo anymore but perhapes he sells some new stuff too?
Puting on a 535D turbo I dod not recomen if he does not have very good knowlege regardin turbomahinery specilaay not the 272 and 286HP vetion since the turboin shaft of the kp39 is quite week...
Turbo
03-03-2015, 04:28 PM #7

(03-03-2015, 03:28 PM)tuikku Last I spoke with Majesty78 some days ago he does not do any costum turbo anymore but perhapes he sells some new stuff too?
Puting on a 535D turbo I dod not recomen if he does not have very good knowlege regardin turbomahinery specilaay not the 272 and 286HP vetion since the turboin shaft of the kp39 is quite week...

mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:05 PM #8
turbo 535d can not be managed with electronics , on 204cv Injector I want to use those of 272cv , he351ve where I find in Italy ? perhaps too big , I thought a gtx3071
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:05 PM #8

turbo 535d can not be managed with electronics , on 204cv Injector I want to use those of 272cv , he351ve where I find in Italy ? perhaps too big , I thought a gtx3071

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
03-03-2015, 05:07 PM #9
he he  , italiano 
any turbo can be controlled electronically. not all can be controlled mechanically.
is a question of play and plug , good luck i too would like to find a VNT type bigger than the GT2359. afordable i mean.
This post was last modified: 03-03-2015, 05:11 PM by barrote.

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barrote
03-03-2015, 05:07 PM #9

he he  , italiano 
any turbo can be controlled electronically. not all can be controlled mechanically.
is a question of play and plug , good luck i too would like to find a VNT type bigger than the GT2359. afordable i mean.


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mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:10 PM #10
with gtb2260v increased with induced 48mm I made 330hp with a gtb2571vk latest generation induced by 53mm and 71mm wheel to 2.1 should do what you think about 350hp
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:10 PM #10

with gtb2260v increased with induced 48mm I made 330hp with a gtb2571vk latest generation induced by 53mm and 71mm wheel to 2.1 should do what you think about 350hp

mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:13 PM #11
barrote do not understand what you wrote
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:13 PM #11

barrote do not understand what you wrote

mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:19 PM #12
turbo 272hp can be managed with mechanical wg that ' pressure ? I 'll have problems drain pipe and ' good 80mm
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:19 PM #12

turbo 272hp can be managed with mechanical wg that ' pressure ? I 'll have problems drain pipe and ' good 80mm

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
03-03-2015, 05:22 PM #13
(03-03-2015, 05:13 PM)mao76 barrote do not understand what you wrote

wich part?? the control thing??
i belive the C30CDI uses a GT2359, with a modified turbine (HOT Side) it f#$%$# rocks. HP well that is directly proportional to fuel injected.
if u can inject 450HP fuel , or u have the HP or f#$% black blast from the rear.

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barrote
03-03-2015, 05:22 PM #13

(03-03-2015, 05:13 PM)mao76 barrote do not understand what you wrote

wich part?? the control thing??
i belive the C30CDI uses a GT2359, with a modified turbine (HOT Side) it f#$%$# rocks. HP well that is directly proportional to fuel injected.
if u can inject 450HP fuel , or u have the HP or f#$% black blast from the rear.


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mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:28 PM #14
turbo largest of gtb2260 not find , only the compressor side , side turbine maximum wheel size 52mm , with this over the 2.1 bar can not be ' , is destroyed ,
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:28 PM #14

turbo largest of gtb2260 not find , only the compressor side , side turbine maximum wheel size 52mm , with this over the 2.1 bar can not be ' , is destroyed ,

tuikku
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132
03-03-2015, 05:35 PM #15
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X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.
This post was last modified: 03-03-2015, 05:39 PM by tuikku.
tuikku
03-03-2015, 05:35 PM #15

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X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.

mao76
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65
03-03-2015, 05:43 PM #16
turbo and that ' this amg with 63 compressor wheel , I'm sorry , but with google translator and ' a mess , HX35 and ' easy to use and good results ? or am I wrong to understand
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:43 PM #16

turbo and that ' this amg with 63 compressor wheel , I'm sorry , but with google translator and ' a mess , HX35 and ' easy to use and good results ? or am I wrong to understand

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
03-03-2015, 05:47 PM #17
(03-03-2015, 05:35 PM)tuikku .
X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.

Hy tuikku
u seem to have good knowlege about the AMG solution for the C30.
i have one GT2359V , and i would like to upgrade to AMG solution , what´s  the diff??? is just the turbine whell wich is biger?
well i have no issues with mine, but i not reving to 6k. i´m staying at 5k, for the moment.
info is much apreciated.

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barrote
03-03-2015, 05:47 PM #17

(03-03-2015, 05:35 PM)tuikku .
X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.

Hy tuikku
u seem to have good knowlege about the AMG solution for the C30.
i have one GT2359V , and i would like to upgrade to AMG solution , what´s  the diff??? is just the turbine whell wich is biger?
well i have no issues with mine, but i not reving to 6k. i´m staying at 5k, for the moment.
info is much apreciated.


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mao76
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03-03-2015, 05:55 PM #18
ok , the hot side of a gt2260 or 23 I can not find a wheel bigger than 52mm , you know something bigger ?
mao76
03-03-2015, 05:55 PM #18

ok , the hot side of a gt2260 or 23 I can not find a wheel bigger than 52mm , you know something bigger ?

mao76
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03-04-2015, 09:15 AM #19
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/c...99.jpg27.5 lb min@ 2.8 PR equals 216 hp @2750rpm.
Hp = torque (lbft)*rpm/5252: torque@2750rpm=413lbft=560Nm. At 25psi allowable boost* @ 2750 rpm.

Stock max torque: 410nm@1750rpm

*: max boost for the GTX3071 at 2750 rpm. More boost will result in surge.
mao76
03-04-2015, 09:15 AM #19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/c...99.jpg27.5 lb min@ 2.8 PR equals 216 hp @2750rpm.
Hp = torque (lbft)*rpm/5252: torque@2750rpm=413lbft=560Nm. At 25psi allowable boost* @ 2750 rpm.

Stock max torque: 410nm@1750rpm

*: max boost for the GTX3071 at 2750 rpm. More boost will result in surge.

Turbo
Holset

489
03-04-2015, 10:21 AM #20
If I would be you, put the charger in match bot and analyze, it will give you a much better picture
and GTX3071R will not give you a fast spool but it will give you power

garrett say that GTX is so good against surge but borg warner EFR is better look at them when you use the programe, well wurth the time in manny way, but some efficency need to be trade for
This post was last modified: 03-04-2015, 10:24 AM by Turbo.
Turbo
03-04-2015, 10:21 AM #20

If I would be you, put the charger in match bot and analyze, it will give you a much better picture
and GTX3071R will not give you a fast spool but it will give you power

garrett say that GTX is so good against surge but borg warner EFR is better look at them when you use the programe, well wurth the time in manny way, but some efficency need to be trade for

mao76
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03-04-2015, 11:04 AM #21
a efr twinscrooll
mao76
03-04-2015, 11:04 AM #21

a efr twinscrooll

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
03-04-2015, 11:17 AM #22
gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
03-04-2015, 11:17 AM #22

gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Turbo
Holset

489
03-04-2015, 12:24 PM #23
I want to see the papers on that!
simply what you regards as superfast I am most sertain I do not, mao76 can deside for him self what he want
In this case twin entry will give faster spool if done right
try match bot and se what it give you, if you have a garrett turbo just plot the result in the compressor diagram after, and set the right swalowing value for turbine
Turbo
03-04-2015, 12:24 PM #23

I want to see the papers on that!
simply what you regards as superfast I am most sertain I do not, mao76 can deside for him self what he want
In this case twin entry will give faster spool if done right
try match bot and se what it give you, if you have a garrett turbo just plot the result in the compressor diagram after, and set the right swalowing value for turbine

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
03-04-2015, 01:19 PM #24
(03-03-2015, 05:35 PM)tuikku .
X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.

I think could work if you modify the changeover valve betwhen the small and big turbo to pressure actuator.
Change the vacum controlled flap with the audi 3.0btdi checkvalve
and change the vacum wg on lp turbo to a standard pressure actuator.
Then i think you get some decent use of it....Think the biggest problem is the check flap that is vakum controlled
EDH_Performance
03-04-2015, 01:19 PM #24

(03-03-2015, 05:35 PM)tuikku .
X35 turbo set is quite easy to put there, under bonnet.
But who can make them work properly ?
There are three vacuum-controlled flaps, ecu hardware and software are different, than common 530d.
Do you ever read or heard, that any adjusts those flaps work ?
Neither me, but I do it.

Antonmies makes good hybrids.
AMG turbine and ~63mm billet compressor is good combo.
+1000nm and +400hp, if you want to.

No sense to try to put bigger compressor.
The trouble is turbine flow, bigger compressor makes thing even worst.

I think could work if you modify the changeover valve betwhen the small and big turbo to pressure actuator.
Change the vacum controlled flap with the audi 3.0btdi checkvalve
and change the vacum wg on lp turbo to a standard pressure actuator.
Then i think you get some decent use of it....Think the biggest problem is the check flap that is vakum controlled

tuikku
GT2256V

132
03-04-2015, 01:32 PM #25
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.
tuikku
03-04-2015, 01:32 PM #25

(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.

mao76
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03-04-2015, 01:46 PM #26
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.

turbogharger gtx3071r and ' ar good that I should use the hot side ? first on ' car had twice turbo335d I could not handle it , I tried to disarm the turbocherger small , and I must say that only with the big boost in the car was going about 3000rpm , not bad, it has 65mm wheel hot side , I do not remember ar , cold side wheel diameter 71mm and indotto53mm , now a gtx having a wheel hot side smallest seem 60mm , and the cold side with a wheel gtx that improves the speed ' , I should have a turbocharger that will have ' boost around 2800 rpm, which is also on double ball , never double bearings are good for diesel
mao76
03-04-2015, 01:46 PM #26

(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.

turbogharger gtx3071r and ' ar good that I should use the hot side ? first on ' car had twice turbo335d I could not handle it , I tried to disarm the turbocherger small , and I must say that only with the big boost in the car was going about 3000rpm , not bad, it has 65mm wheel hot side , I do not remember ar , cold side wheel diameter 71mm and indotto53mm , now a gtx having a wheel hot side smallest seem 60mm , and the cold side with a wheel gtx that improves the speed ' , I should have a turbocharger that will have ' boost around 2800 rpm, which is also on double ball , never double bearings are good for diesel

mao76
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03-04-2015, 01:57 PM #27
not go beyond 330cv , small hot side , on my more than 2.1 bar could not shoot , you have to be to make 400hp to over 2.5 bar pressure , result breaks down in a moment ,
mao76
03-04-2015, 01:57 PM #27

not go beyond 330cv , small hot side , on my more than 2.1 bar could not shoot , you have to be to make 400hp to over 2.5 bar pressure , result breaks down in a moment ,

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
03-04-2015, 03:12 PM #28
(03-04-2015, 01:32 PM)tuikku
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.

I was responding on a post earlier in the thread about the GTX not spooling fast. I predict you have full boost at 2500rpm on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine.

But you are right, no need for it. However I did not bring the GTX-turbo up, I just responded.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
03-04-2015, 03:12 PM #28

(03-04-2015, 01:32 PM)tuikku
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.

I was responding on a post earlier in the thread about the GTX not spooling fast. I predict you have full boost at 2500rpm on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine.

But you are right, no need for it. However I did not bring the GTX-turbo up, I just responded.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
03-04-2015, 04:47 PM #29
HELLLO can someone inlight me about the AMG solution for the C30?????
Thanks that would be much apreciated....

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barrote
03-04-2015, 04:47 PM #29

HELLLO can someone inlight me about the AMG solution for the C30?????
Thanks that would be much apreciated....


FD,
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mao76
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03-04-2015, 06:18 PM #30
(03-04-2015, 03:12 PM)F.R.A.S
(03-04-2015, 01:32 PM)tuikku
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.

I was responding on a post earlier in the thread about the GTX not spooling fast. I predict you have full boost at 2500rpm on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine.

But you are right, no need for it. However I did not bring the GTX-turbo up, I just responded.then gtx not good for my bmw diesel
mao76
03-04-2015, 06:18 PM #30

(03-04-2015, 03:12 PM)F.R.A.S
(03-04-2015, 01:32 PM)tuikku
(03-04-2015, 11:17 AM)F.R.A.S gtx3071r will give super fast spool on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine. We have run several gt3071r on 2-liter and 2.3-liter 4cyl engines with blistering performance.


This is diesel forum ...
There is not any "old" 3L  cdi in earth, that needs that kind of turbo ... yet.


One more time

Seriously, certainly the best solution to +400 power at 3l cdi is to use the orig. turbo(s).
Practically from every stock 3L turbo´s it is possible to do 2363 hybrid, which supports ~400hp power.
Double turbo set do it as stock.

Ask Antonmies
Made soft. many cars with his turbo.
Good quality with reasonable price.

I was responding on a post earlier in the thread about the GTX not spooling fast. I predict you have full boost at 2500rpm on a 24v 3-liter 6cyl engine.

But you are right, no need for it. However I did not bring the GTX-turbo up, I just responded.then gtx not good for my bmw diesel

mao76
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03-10-2015, 05:10 PM #31
and s200v Jhoon deere tractor VGT hot side wheel diameter 65mm 50mm induced cold side output induced 45 71mm but you can change with wheel largest wanting what you think
mao76
03-10-2015, 05:10 PM #31

and s200v Jhoon deere tractor VGT hot side wheel diameter 65mm 50mm induced cold side output induced 45 71mm but you can change with wheel largest wanting what you think

 
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