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Found a w201 2.5 diesel but it needs a om606

Found a w201 2.5 diesel but it needs a om606

 
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Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-19-2014, 05:11 AM #1
1987 190d benz that has a 5 speed manual. they want $2000 and no idea on mileage or what does work

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Im curious if the transmission will bolt up to a om606?

After some research, the 602 flywheel on the 606 fits and the trans should bolt up.

Next question---

What trans should be in this w201 and has anyone put a 500hp 606 on one?

What i hope to make of a 190 some day

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This post was last modified: 01-19-2014, 06:08 AM by Gearbound.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-19-2014, 05:11 AM #1

1987 190d benz that has a 5 speed manual. they want $2000 and no idea on mileage or what does work

[Image: 00r0r_8BdiP4OJ42M_600x450_zpsffe997fa.jpg]
Im curious if the transmission will bolt up to a om606?

After some research, the 602 flywheel on the 606 fits and the trans should bolt up.

Next question---

What trans should be in this w201 and has anyone put a 500hp 606 on one?


What i hope to make of a 190 some day

[Image: krmb-04_zps021e022d.jpg]
[Image: krmb-01_zps82ab2ed4.jpg]
[Image: krmb-09_zps9142c28a.jpg]


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-19-2014, 11:40 AM #2
You'll save a lot of time and $$$ if you just go out and buy a 16v and ruin it with a 606. The clutch will need to be sorted, the ring and pinion will be too short and the LSD carrier won't work with the taller gears, the driveshaft flex discs will cause problems.

AFAIK, there are only 2 5speed trannies that are worth a crap. The one from the 16v (414?) with no overdrive and the one from the 300e that Duncansport is using.

An I6 is tight in a W124, severely limiting A/A intercooler options if you want to keep AC. They're tighter in the W201 chassis, as in no belt driven fan.

My advice: The 201 is great with lots of aftermarket chassis tuning support but you would be wise to stick to an I5, especially if you want to DD it. If your heart is set on a big I6, the W124 is going to be lightest chassis that the I6 will readily fit into. The R129 is a short W124 but they somehow made it heavy as hell.
raysorenson
01-19-2014, 11:40 AM #2

You'll save a lot of time and $$$ if you just go out and buy a 16v and ruin it with a 606. The clutch will need to be sorted, the ring and pinion will be too short and the LSD carrier won't work with the taller gears, the driveshaft flex discs will cause problems.

AFAIK, there are only 2 5speed trannies that are worth a crap. The one from the 16v (414?) with no overdrive and the one from the 300e that Duncansport is using.

An I6 is tight in a W124, severely limiting A/A intercooler options if you want to keep AC. They're tighter in the W201 chassis, as in no belt driven fan.

My advice: The 201 is great with lots of aftermarket chassis tuning support but you would be wise to stick to an I5, especially if you want to DD it. If your heart is set on a big I6, the W124 is going to be lightest chassis that the I6 will readily fit into. The R129 is a short W124 but they somehow made it heavy as hell.

OM616
10mm MW

572
01-19-2014, 02:29 PM #3
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Where can I find those heater controls??
OM616
01-19-2014, 02:29 PM #3

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Where can I find those heater controls??

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-19-2014, 05:00 PM #4
well thats rain on my parade. we dont get the om605 here either so i dont know of a monster diesel that would fit.

Id be fine with electric fans, no a/c and water to air intercooler but if the exsisting trans is already crap and the next avalable 16v option drivetrain is basically crap then i have to walk away from the w201 chassis.

just found it super sexy with amg package and the size/weight look fun too

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-19-2014, 05:00 PM #4

well thats rain on my parade. we dont get the om605 here either so i dont know of a monster diesel that would fit.

Id be fine with electric fans, no a/c and water to air intercooler but if the exsisting trans is already crap and the next avalable 16v option drivetrain is basically crap then i have to walk away from the w201 chassis.

just found it super sexy with amg package and the size/weight look fun too


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
01-19-2014, 07:55 PM #5
They look even better with the evo kit on

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Mark_M
01-19-2014, 07:55 PM #5

They look even better with the evo kit on

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raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-19-2014, 08:04 PM #6
A 185mm 2.65 LSD carrier cost 850 new at the stealer. The rest of the 2.65 diff is readily available used. The driveshaft will need to be beefed up on a W124 too.

If you're prepared to make a few sacrifices, I say go with a W201, especially the 16v. They're light. The 16v also has a fast ratio steering gear.
raysorenson
01-19-2014, 08:04 PM #6

A 185mm 2.65 LSD carrier cost 850 new at the stealer. The rest of the 2.65 diff is readily available used. The driveshaft will need to be beefed up on a W124 too.

If you're prepared to make a few sacrifices, I say go with a W201, especially the 16v. They're light. The 16v also has a fast ratio steering gear.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-20-2014, 12:18 AM #7
Driveshafts are not problem to make but diffs and transmissions are something i cant make from scratch and dont see the money in a new one off part from stealer.

so the 16v has a close ratio 5 speed that is not and Over drive transmission? sounds like a poor match for highway traveling.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-20-2014, 12:18 AM #7

Driveshafts are not problem to make but diffs and transmissions are something i cant make from scratch and dont see the money in a new one off part from stealer.

so the 16v has a close ratio 5 speed that is not and Over drive transmission? sounds like a poor match for highway traveling.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-20-2014, 08:50 AM #8
Correct, no overdrive, close ratio. Bad for highway? I like mine. I usually set the cruise at 80mph/3000rpm. I imagine OD would make it a little quieter and get a little better MPG, but nothing major.

None of the TD's from '95 down had OD.
raysorenson
01-20-2014, 08:50 AM #8

Correct, no overdrive, close ratio. Bad for highway? I like mine. I usually set the cruise at 80mph/3000rpm. I imagine OD would make it a little quieter and get a little better MPG, but nothing major.

None of the TD's from '95 down had OD.

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
01-20-2014, 12:08 PM #9
(01-20-2014, 08:50 AM)raysorenson None of the TD's from '95 down had OD.

no they didnt, but they did have a different ratio in the rearend 2.65 on both 300tdt w124 and 250td w201 if i am not misstaken...

regarding transmissions the 717.401 seems to hold up for quite a lot to.

717.401 is from 200/230e w123 with overdrive
717.404 is from 2.3 16v
717.450 is from 300e 24valve
This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 02:22 PM by swampmonkey.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
01-20-2014, 12:08 PM #9

(01-20-2014, 08:50 AM)raysorenson None of the TD's from '95 down had OD.

no they didnt, but they did have a different ratio in the rearend 2.65 on both 300tdt w124 and 250td w201 if i am not misstaken...

regarding transmissions the 717.401 seems to hold up for quite a lot to.

717.401 is from 200/230e w123 with overdrive
717.404 is from 2.3 16v
717.450 is from 300e 24valve


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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-20-2014, 01:29 PM #10
Yes, 2.65 ratios on the 201 and w124, the na606 equipped 124 had a 2.87. To clarify, my comments about having no overdrive being fine for hwy driving assume a 2.65 ring and pinion with stock 201/124 tire diameter.

You could bolt a 3.07 ring gear to a 16v LSD carrier. 1st gear could end up worthless on a high power build with a gear that short, overdrive would be a must.
raysorenson
01-20-2014, 01:29 PM #10

Yes, 2.65 ratios on the 201 and w124, the na606 equipped 124 had a 2.87. To clarify, my comments about having no overdrive being fine for hwy driving assume a 2.65 ring and pinion with stock 201/124 tire diameter.

You could bolt a 3.07 ring gear to a 16v LSD carrier. 1st gear could end up worthless on a high power build with a gear that short, overdrive would be a must.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-20-2014, 09:26 PM #11
what are some other light cars like the 190 that could take a 606? Ill be flamed for this but how about BMW e36 or toyota Cressida with a AMG badge on it Big Grin any other chassis that come to mind?

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-20-2014, 09:26 PM #11

what are some other light cars like the 190 that could take a 606? Ill be flamed for this but how about BMW e36 or toyota Cressida with a AMG badge on it Big Grin any other chassis that come to mind?


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
01-21-2014, 11:56 AM #12
BMW e21 is way cooler than an e36 and cheaper

or e30?
This post was last modified: 01-21-2014, 12:10 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-21-2014, 11:56 AM #12

BMW e21 is way cooler than an e36 and cheaper

or e30?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-21-2014, 07:55 PM #13
e30 and e21 are a bit rare and people are proud of them. Ill keep an eye out for them.
This post was last modified: 01-21-2014, 08:01 PM by Gearbound.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-21-2014, 07:55 PM #13

e30 and e21 are a bit rare and people are proud of them. Ill keep an eye out for them.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-22-2014, 09:59 AM #14
I think a datsun Z car would be cool as long as there's enough hood clearance.
raysorenson
01-22-2014, 09:59 AM #14

I think a datsun Z car would be cool as long as there's enough hood clearance.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
01-22-2014, 12:35 PM #15
(01-22-2014, 09:59 AM)raysorenson I think a datsun Z car would be cool as long as there's enough hood clearance.

yep there is Big Grin


This post was last modified: 01-22-2014, 12:38 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-22-2014, 12:35 PM #15

(01-22-2014, 09:59 AM)raysorenson I think a datsun Z car would be cool as long as there's enough hood clearance.

yep there is Big Grin



1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-22-2014, 07:22 PM #16
4 door so i can haul my mates around lol And who in the states is going to expect a 4 door to disappear in a cloud of soot Big Grin good ideas but the 1986-1992 supra is what i would put a 606 in thanks to the huge engine bay and strong drivetrain.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-22-2014, 07:22 PM #16

4 door so i can haul my mates around lol And who in the states is going to expect a 4 door to disappear in a cloud of soot Big Grin good ideas but the 1986-1992 supra is what i would put a 606 in thanks to the huge engine bay and strong drivetrain.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
01-23-2014, 12:19 PM #17
I am putting an om606 and 6spd manual into a w126 1987 300sdl S class It already has the om603 so its an easy swap. But the 1987 w124 300d has the same engine but smaller car

The om603 is basically the same engine 3.0 inline 6 with a single cam head also capable of decent power 300ish

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-23-2014, 12:19 PM #17

I am putting an om606 and 6spd manual into a w126 1987 300sdl S class It already has the om603 so its an easy swap. But the 1987 w124 300d has the same engine but smaller car

The om603 is basically the same engine 3.0 inline 6 with a single cam head also capable of decent power 300ish


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-23-2014, 05:27 PM #18
If I'm going to do extensive work and dump money into a hobby I'd rather have the mack daddy motor. i found a running e30 in nice condition with 5 speed 4doors for $1200 Smile we'll see what happens

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-23-2014, 05:27 PM #18

If I'm going to do extensive work and dump money into a hobby I'd rather have the mack daddy motor. i found a running e30 in nice condition with 5 speed 4doors for $1200 Smile we'll see what happens


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-23-2014, 09:00 PM #19
I like the E30's and I like 4 doors. Good call. E36's seem undervalued in the current market and probably are good swap candidates as well but you'll pay a little weight penalty over the E30.
raysorenson
01-23-2014, 09:00 PM #19

I like the E30's and I like 4 doors. Good call. E36's seem undervalued in the current market and probably are good swap candidates as well but you'll pay a little weight penalty over the E30.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-24-2014, 12:24 AM #20
went to look at it and found out why it was so cheap, no title and he bought it that way.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-24-2014, 12:24 AM #20

went to look at it and found out why it was so cheap, no title and he bought it that way.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-24-2014, 09:18 AM #21
Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.
Duncansport
01-24-2014, 09:18 AM #21

Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-24-2014, 01:22 PM #22
standalones are becoming cheaper and simpler to use. I have a AEM EMS on my supra. (400whp) same motor and standalone, different turbo on a friends supra and it made 873whp) MegaSquirt has alot of options for the price and if you must have the baddest computer there is PROEFI,Haltech,Motec

Its great for trouble shooting Smile if installed correctly

but yes a 605 is needed in a starion/conquest,tacoma,4runner,and all sorts of other cars Smile

(01-24-2014, 09:18 AM)Duncansport Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-24-2014, 01:22 PM #22

standalones are becoming cheaper and simpler to use. I have a AEM EMS on my supra. (400whp) same motor and standalone, different turbo on a friends supra and it made 873whp) MegaSquirt has alot of options for the price and if you must have the baddest computer there is PROEFI,Haltech,Motec

Its great for trouble shooting Smile if installed correctly

but yes a 605 is needed in a starion/conquest,tacoma,4runner,and all sorts of other cars Smile

(01-24-2014, 09:18 AM)Duncansport Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-24-2014, 03:02 PM #23
(01-24-2014, 01:22 PM)Gearbound standalones are becoming cheaper and simpler to use. I have a AEM EMS on my supra. (400whp) same motor and standalone, different turbo on a friends supra and it made 873whp) MegaSquirt has alot of options for the price and if you must have the baddest computer there is PROEFI,Haltech,Motec

Its great for trouble shooting Smile if installed correctly

but yes a 605 is needed in a starion/conquest,tacoma,4runner,and all sorts of other cars Smile

(01-24-2014, 09:18 AM)Duncansport Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.

I ran a TEC 2 Electromotive with good luck. Easy to tune and install.
Duncansport
01-24-2014, 03:02 PM #23

(01-24-2014, 01:22 PM)Gearbound standalones are becoming cheaper and simpler to use. I have a AEM EMS on my supra. (400whp) same motor and standalone, different turbo on a friends supra and it made 873whp) MegaSquirt has alot of options for the price and if you must have the baddest computer there is PROEFI,Haltech,Motec

Its great for trouble shooting Smile if installed correctly

but yes a 605 is needed in a starion/conquest,tacoma,4runner,and all sorts of other cars Smile

(01-24-2014, 09:18 AM)Duncansport Conquest/Starion...

Ive built up one with the G54B up to 360HWP. I love the car but the engine and fuel injection is junk so you need to go stand alone to make any power. I would love to happen upon a non rusty one and stick my 605 in it.

I ran a TEC 2 Electromotive with good luck. Easy to tune and install.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-24-2014, 05:50 PM #24
360whp is pretty impressive for that motor

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-24-2014, 05:50 PM #24

360whp is pretty impressive for that motor


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-03-2014, 06:12 AM #25
[Image: lexus_zps36f470a8.jpg]

another idea. Is300 loads of room for the 2jzge. already has electric puller fans and room for IC infront.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-03-2014, 06:12 AM #25

[Image: lexus_zps36f470a8.jpg]

another idea. Is300 loads of room for the 2jzge. already has electric puller fans and room for IC infront.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-03-2014, 03:31 PM #26
If you buy a BMW you have a lot of things for free. Solid gearboxes and diffs. But it has to be e36 328 or 325tds to have the bullet proof stuff already bolted on. Then you just re-weld the bell housing on the gearbox and mount the om606. Good room for IC and they are made for straight sixes to start with.

Fun well balanced car that will make you smile for a long time. And yea, BMW has 240mm clutches readily available so all you need is a solid flywheel and a nice pressure plate (Sachs 765) and you're good to go.

Yea, the M3 is also a good contender but a lot more expensive. The 328 cost nothing. Another good thing is that you can sell crank and some other engine parts for some good money. The 2.8 crank will make 2.8-liter, the tds-crank will give 2.7-liters in all m20 or m50 engines. Yes, everything fits across on BMW Smile

Here is our om605 car, a e36 316 Compakt Cool
Old picture so now the car is more ready...

   

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-03-2014, 03:31 PM #26

If you buy a BMW you have a lot of things for free. Solid gearboxes and diffs. But it has to be e36 328 or 325tds to have the bullet proof stuff already bolted on. Then you just re-weld the bell housing on the gearbox and mount the om606. Good room for IC and they are made for straight sixes to start with.

Fun well balanced car that will make you smile for a long time. And yea, BMW has 240mm clutches readily available so all you need is a solid flywheel and a nice pressure plate (Sachs 765) and you're good to go.

Yea, the M3 is also a good contender but a lot more expensive. The 328 cost nothing. Another good thing is that you can sell crank and some other engine parts for some good money. The 2.8 crank will make 2.8-liter, the tds-crank will give 2.7-liters in all m20 or m50 engines. Yes, everything fits across on BMW Smile

Here is our om605 car, a e36 316 Compakt Cool
Old picture so now the car is more ready...

   


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-03-2014, 07:16 PM #27
The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-03-2014, 07:16 PM #27

The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-04-2014, 02:35 AM #28
om606 will fit nicely in these cars, just throw the old wisco-fan out and put a couple of 12" electric in and your good to go.

The om605 is almost the exact length of the m51d25 engine in the 325tds, but the m50b20 ---> s54b32 is a bit longer, maybe an inch shorter than the om606, so there is no problem with room.

But as I said, only 328, 325tds and m3 has the bullet proof gearbox and diff (for cheap except of the m3). But if you find a 330d with the 6spd for cheap that's also super strong stuff, the 330i I don't know about...

The old getrag 260/280 will not cope with diesel torque.

(02-03-2014, 07:16 PM)Gearbound The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-04-2014, 02:35 AM #28

om606 will fit nicely in these cars, just throw the old wisco-fan out and put a couple of 12" electric in and your good to go.

The om605 is almost the exact length of the m51d25 engine in the 325tds, but the m50b20 ---> s54b32 is a bit longer, maybe an inch shorter than the om606, so there is no problem with room.

But as I said, only 328, 325tds and m3 has the bullet proof gearbox and diff (for cheap except of the m3). But if you find a 330d with the 6spd for cheap that's also super strong stuff, the 330i I don't know about...

The old getrag 260/280 will not cope with diesel torque.

(02-03-2014, 07:16 PM)Gearbound The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-04-2014, 04:43 AM #29
(02-04-2014, 02:35 AM)F.R.A.S om606 will fit nicely in these cars, just throw the old wisco-fan out and put a couple of 12" electric in and your good to go.

The om605 is almost the exact length of the m51d25 engine in the 325tds, but the m50b20 ---> s54b32 is a bit longer, maybe an inch shorter than the om606, so there is no problem with room.

But as I said, only 328, 325tds and m3 has the bullet proof gearbox and diff (for cheap except of the m3). But if you find a 330d with the 6spd for cheap that's also super strong stuff, the 330i I don't know about...

The old getrag 260/280 will not cope with diesel torque.

(02-03-2014, 07:16 PM)Gearbound The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.

325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-04-2014, 04:43 AM #29

(02-04-2014, 02:35 AM)F.R.A.S om606 will fit nicely in these cars, just throw the old wisco-fan out and put a couple of 12" electric in and your good to go.

The om605 is almost the exact length of the m51d25 engine in the 325tds, but the m50b20 ---> s54b32 is a bit longer, maybe an inch shorter than the om606, so there is no problem with room.

But as I said, only 328, 325tds and m3 has the bullet proof gearbox and diff (for cheap except of the m3). But if you find a 330d with the 6spd for cheap that's also super strong stuff, the 330i I don't know about...

The old getrag 260/280 will not cope with diesel torque.

(02-03-2014, 07:16 PM)Gearbound The e36 fits a 606 pretty well then? We dont have 605 available in States.

325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-04-2014, 11:58 AM #30
Ooops... But the 328 must be less expensive. Over here they cost $1500-3000 Cool

I can buy one for you and ship Tongue No commission, I'll just keep the engine. Advantage is a lighter shipping weight Smile

http://www.blocket.se/helsingborg/Bmw_32...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/landskrona/Bmw_328...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/kalmar/Bmw_328_514...?ca=21&w=2

And an e46 Smile
http://www.blocket.se/halland/Bmw_328i_E...?ca=21&w=2

(02-04-2014, 04:43 AM)Gearbound 325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.
This post was last modified: 02-04-2014, 12:02 PM by F.R.A.S.

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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-04-2014, 11:58 AM #30

Ooops... But the 328 must be less expensive. Over here they cost $1500-3000 Cool

I can buy one for you and ship Tongue No commission, I'll just keep the engine. Advantage is a lighter shipping weight Smile

http://www.blocket.se/helsingborg/Bmw_32...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/landskrona/Bmw_328...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/kalmar/Bmw_328_514...?ca=21&w=2

And an e46 Smile
http://www.blocket.se/halland/Bmw_328i_E...?ca=21&w=2

(02-04-2014, 04:43 AM)Gearbound 325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-04-2014, 07:30 PM #31
(02-04-2014, 11:58 AM)F.R.A.S Ooops... But the 328 must be less expensive. Over here they cost $1500-3000 Cool

I can buy one for you and ship Tongue No commission, I'll just keep the engine. Advantage is a lighter shipping weight Smile

http://www.blocket.se/helsingborg/Bmw_32...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/landskrona/Bmw_328...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/kalmar/Bmw_328_514...?ca=21&w=2

And an e46 Smile
http://www.blocket.se/halland/Bmw_328i_E...?ca=21&w=2

(02-04-2014, 04:43 AM)Gearbound 325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.

HAHA! I love the wagons. but all of the paper work and money ship it cant be any cheaper. If i did id ask if you could leave spare parts in it (om606 should fit in the trunk Big Grin

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-04-2014, 07:30 PM #31

(02-04-2014, 11:58 AM)F.R.A.S Ooops... But the 328 must be less expensive. Over here they cost $1500-3000 Cool

I can buy one for you and ship Tongue No commission, I'll just keep the engine. Advantage is a lighter shipping weight Smile

http://www.blocket.se/helsingborg/Bmw_32...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/landskrona/Bmw_328...?ca=21&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/kalmar/Bmw_328_514...?ca=21&w=2

And an e46 Smile
http://www.blocket.se/halland/Bmw_328i_E...?ca=21&w=2

(02-04-2014, 04:43 AM)Gearbound 325i are still $7000 around here. and 5 speed or manual bmw are way expensive. ill keep looking.

HAHA! I love the wagons. but all of the paper work and money ship it cant be any cheaper. If i did id ask if you could leave spare parts in it (om606 should fit in the trunk Big Grin


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Eric78
GT2559V

198
02-05-2014, 03:04 AM #32
(01-19-2014, 11:40 AM)raysorenson My advice: The 201 is great with lots of aftermarket chassis tuning support but you would be wise to stick to an I5, especially if you want to DD it. If your heart is set on a big I6, the W124 is going to be lightest chassis that the I6 will readily fit into.
How much bigger(outside dimensions) than an M103 is the OM606? because the M103 was a factory engine option in the W201
Eric78
02-05-2014, 03:04 AM #32

(01-19-2014, 11:40 AM)raysorenson My advice: The 201 is great with lots of aftermarket chassis tuning support but you would be wise to stick to an I5, especially if you want to DD it. If your heart is set on a big I6, the W124 is going to be lightest chassis that the I6 will readily fit into.
How much bigger(outside dimensions) than an M103 is the OM606? because the M103 was a factory engine option in the W201

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-05-2014, 03:35 AM #33
Have to help an fellow dieselhead out here Big Grin

There are ways to import for cheap. Will not write it out but with some imagination you can figure it out! I'll stuff the car with what ever you need as long as it's legal Smile And we'll coordinate this so your newly purchased Dieselmeken 8mm IP and one of our exhaust manifolds will come along in the shipping... See, soon the shipping of the car is for free, ha, ha...

(02-04-2014, 07:30 PM)Gearbound HAHA! I love the wagons. but all of the paper work and money ship it cant be any cheaper. If i did id ask if you could leave spare parts in it (om606 should fit in the trunk Big Grin

Yea, that's right, the 2.6 is an inline six in the old w201.

(02-05-2014, 03:04 AM)Eric78 How much bigger(outside dimensions) than an M103 is the OM606? because the M103 was a factory engine option in the W201

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-05-2014, 03:35 AM #33

Have to help an fellow dieselhead out here Big Grin

There are ways to import for cheap. Will not write it out but with some imagination you can figure it out! I'll stuff the car with what ever you need as long as it's legal Smile And we'll coordinate this so your newly purchased Dieselmeken 8mm IP and one of our exhaust manifolds will come along in the shipping... See, soon the shipping of the car is for free, ha, ha...

(02-04-2014, 07:30 PM)Gearbound HAHA! I love the wagons. but all of the paper work and money ship it cant be any cheaper. If i did id ask if you could leave spare parts in it (om606 should fit in the trunk Big Grin

Yea, that's right, the 2.6 is an inline six in the old w201.

(02-05-2014, 03:04 AM)Eric78 How much bigger(outside dimensions) than an M103 is the OM606? because the M103 was a factory engine option in the W201


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Eric78
GT2559V

198
02-05-2014, 04:02 AM #34
(02-05-2014, 03:35 AM)F.R.A.S Yea, that's right, the 2.6 is an inline six in the old w201.
Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.
Eric78
02-05-2014, 04:02 AM #34

(02-05-2014, 03:35 AM)F.R.A.S Yea, that's right, the 2.6 is an inline six in the old w201.
Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-05-2014, 11:15 AM #35
Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.

   

Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile

   

(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-05-2014, 11:15 AM #35

Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.

   

Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile

   

(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
02-05-2014, 10:52 PM #36
(02-05-2014, 11:15 AM)F.R.A.S Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.



Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile



(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.

You mean Turbo(S) Big Grin

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
02-05-2014, 10:52 PM #36

(02-05-2014, 11:15 AM)F.R.A.S Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.



Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile



(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.

You mean Turbo(S) Big Grin


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

Eric78
GT2559V

198
02-06-2014, 12:03 AM #37
(02-05-2014, 10:52 PM)Gearbound
(02-05-2014, 11:15 AM)F.R.A.S Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.



Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile



(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.




You mean Turbo(S) Big Grin
Nah, the turbos were someone else & that was an aftermarket kit.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190...rabus.html

Apparently AMG & Brabus did 3.6 litre versions, Renntech did a 3.4.
Eric78
02-06-2014, 12:03 AM #37

(02-05-2014, 10:52 PM)Gearbound
(02-05-2014, 11:15 AM)F.R.A.S Forgot about those bad boys Cool

Looks the same size as the om606.



Here is the m103 2.6-liter (190 2.6) Lots of room for a turbo build Smile



(02-05-2014, 04:02 AM)Eric78 Some AMG & Brabus specials had 3.0 & 3.6litre straight sixes in them.




You mean Turbo(S) Big Grin
Nah, the turbos were someone else & that was an aftermarket kit.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190...rabus.html

Apparently AMG & Brabus did 3.6 litre versions, Renntech did a 3.4.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
03-18-2014, 04:50 AM #38
any build threads of this?!

190d with om606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3DOqALSp8

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
03-18-2014, 04:50 AM #38

any build threads of this?!

190d with om606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3DOqALSp8


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

 
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