om603 or 0m606
om603 or 0m606
I am looking to do a diesel swap in my 1992 toyota 4x4 pickup, and I am trying to find out what size to fly wheel these two om60x's have. Originally I was going to use and om617 but would like more power that I had first wanted. If I go with the om606 I would put the 603 pump in as well as the 6m elements from the 606. I am shooting for around 200hp to start, maybe upwards of 300 at some point. I am going to use the stock toyota tranny and make an adapter plate here at school because we have the tools for it available. Any help would be great guys!
Thanks
How are you going to fit the 6-cyl engine under the hood? How about the added weight? 617 would be even worse!
What about 5-cylinder, OM602 or OM605? The first mentioned is very cost effective and you can get 200-300hp from it no problem (excluding costs). Need original turbo bottom end and tuned injection pump.
I'm worried how the Toyota tranny will hold up. The axles are strong but stock gear ratios are so damn high. Luckily there are aftermarket parts available, I'd really consider those, too, because you don't need 3500rpms when cruising with turbo OM60x
(01-20-2011, 05:29 PM)muuris How are you going to fit the 6-cyl engine under the hood? How about the added weight? 617 would be even worse!
What about 5-cylinder, OM602 or OM605? The first mentioned is very cost effective and you can get 200-300hp from it no problem (excluding costs). Need original turbo bottom end and tuned injection pump.
I'm worried how the Toyota tranny will hold up. The axles are strong but stock gear ratios are so damn high. Luckily there are aftermarket parts available, I'd really consider those, too, because you don't need 3500rpms when cruising with turbo OM60x
(01-20-2011, 05:29 PM)muuris How are you going to fit the 6-cyl engine under the hood? How about the added weight? 617 would be even worse!
What about 5-cylinder, OM602 or OM605? The first mentioned is very cost effective and you can get 200-300hp from it no problem (excluding costs). Need original turbo bottom end and tuned injection pump.
I'm worried how the Toyota tranny will hold up. The axles are strong but stock gear ratios are so damn high. Luckily there are aftermarket parts available, I'd really consider those, too, because you don't need 3500rpms when cruising with turbo OM60x
Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
(01-20-2011, 07:17 PM)redyota(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
I had thought that the turbo om606 came here as well? a totaled one for sale near by me looks to me a turbo from the pics on the website...was the 602 an option for the US market? Also, would a moderately tuned 603 be worth it? If so I dont mind keeping the stock pump and just making it as efficient as I can
(01-20-2011, 07:17 PM)redyota(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
I had thought that the turbo om606 came here as well? a totaled one for sale near by me looks to me a turbo from the pics on the website...was the 602 an option for the US market? Also, would a moderately tuned 603 be worth it? If so I dont mind keeping the stock pump and just making it as efficient as I can
(01-20-2011, 07:30 PM)MTUPower(01-20-2011, 07:17 PM)redyota(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
perfect, thank you. does anyone know the size of the flywheel?
I had thought that the turbo om606 came here as well? a totaled one for sale near by me looks to me a turbo from the pics on the website...was the 602 an option for the US market? Also, would a moderately tuned 603 be worth it? If so I dont mind keeping the stock pump and just making it as efficient as I can
w210's had the turbo 606 in '98 and '99. NA in the prior two years.
(01-20-2011, 07:30 PM)MTUPower(01-20-2011, 07:17 PM)redyota(01-20-2011, 06:58 PM)jonbobshinigin Well, a 606 here in the US is going to be a non-turbo which means quite a bit of modifying to get it take the extra power. However I think there is a guy who put an HX35 on his non-turbo 606 and had good results. I am not sure how much power it would hold up to though. I would not bother with a 617 because it will not give you the power you need. As Muuris said, a 602 would be a great option because it would fit into your vehicle much easier, and leave rooms for other things later such as an intercooler. As you said though, it may be more difficult to find, but I don't see how it would be harder to find than a 603, except for the fact that you seem to have one available now. Another reason to consider the 602 over the 603 is the known head issue with the 603 that is not present in the 602.
perfect, thank you. does anyone know the size of the flywheel?
I had thought that the turbo om606 came here as well? a totaled one for sale near by me looks to me a turbo from the pics on the website...was the 602 an option for the US market? Also, would a moderately tuned 603 be worth it? If so I dont mind keeping the stock pump and just making it as efficient as I can
w210's had the turbo 606 in '98 and '99. NA in the prior two years.
I didn't realize a turbo 606 was ever offered here in the states! That is exciting, although I imagine they are very uncommon and costly!
(01-20-2011, 10:53 PM)jonbobshinigin I didn't realize a turbo 606 was ever offered here in the states! That is exciting, although I imagine they are very uncommon and costly!
(01-20-2011, 10:53 PM)jonbobshinigin I didn't realize a turbo 606 was ever offered here in the states! That is exciting, although I imagine they are very uncommon and costly!
(01-20-2011, 05:43 PM)redyota As for cost, I can get a totaled car and get all i need relatively easily because of one of my teachers.I meant power. You can't get injection pump for 300hp relatively cheap anywhere.
(01-21-2011, 01:49 AM)muuris OM603/OM606 is longer than OM617, but both are better choice than the old iron lump.
(01-20-2011, 05:43 PM)redyota As for cost, I can get a totaled car and get all i need relatively easily because of one of my teachers.I meant power. You can't get injection pump for 300hp relatively cheap anywhere.
(01-21-2011, 01:49 AM)muuris OM603/OM606 is longer than OM617, but both are better choice than the old iron lump.
(01-20-2011, 05:43 PM)redyota As for cost, I can get a totaled car and get all i need relatively easily because of one of my teachers.I meant power. You can't get injection pump for 300hp relatively cheap anywhere.
(01-21-2011, 05:26 AM)aaa Dave did it:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...-2082.html
(01-21-2011, 05:26 AM)aaa Dave did it:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...-2082.html
Can anyone tell me how much smaller the om602 and 605 are than their 6 cylinder brothers and weither or not they were an option on the US market? I have been thinking that these may be a better option especially if they are smaller. Also, is the bell housing pattern cast into the block on these models or is there an adapter plate?
Thanks
(01-22-2011, 11:29 PM)aaa Driver's. Is it really a big deal? The mercedes battery is on the passenger side.
(01-22-2011, 11:29 PM)aaa Driver's. Is it really a big deal? The mercedes battery is on the passenger side.
(01-23-2011, 03:08 AM)muuris Wouldn't it be easier to adapt OM60x gearbox bell-housing to the Toyota tranny?
(01-23-2011, 03:08 AM)muuris Wouldn't it be easier to adapt OM60x gearbox bell-housing to the Toyota tranny?
You can always get out the plasma cutter and carefully remove material to accommodate the drivers side drop on the starter, I did that with a Mitsubishi KM145 trans when I plopped an OM616 in a Mighty Max (was pass side, but same idea).
If you do it right, you can transfer the housing lump around to the new position, and have it tig'd on, and do the same with the chunk that was removed.