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New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D

New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D

 
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garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-22-2010, 06:12 PM #551
What time should i be getting there on sunday?

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-22-2010, 06:12 PM #551

What time should i be getting there on sunday?


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-22-2010, 07:21 PM #552
(10-22-2010, 06:12 PM)garage What time should i be getting there on sunday?

SATURDAY not SundayBig Grin

I will be there right around 9 o'clock, I am picking up my sons in Rancho Cucamonga, then I will be on my way.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-22-2010, 07:21 PM #552

(10-22-2010, 06:12 PM)garage What time should i be getting there on sunday?

SATURDAY not SundayBig Grin

I will be there right around 9 o'clock, I am picking up my sons in Rancho Cucamonga, then I will be on my way.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

yankneck696
Build it so strong & blow it up good !!!

395
10-22-2010, 07:24 PM #553
Somebody had better have a good cam with alot of SD cards.....
yankneck696
10-22-2010, 07:24 PM #553

Somebody had better have a good cam with alot of SD cards.....

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-22-2010, 07:31 PM #554
(10-22-2010, 07:24 PM)yankneck696 Somebody had better have a good cam with alot of SD cards.....

I have a decent one with 1 gig of memory.
Finished the water injection today, going to test it tonight.

I also added a new breather/seperator inspired by FI.

   
Breather
   
Water tank pickup
   
Solenoid valve
   
Pump
   
Pressure switch
This post was last modified: 10-22-2010, 07:53 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-22-2010, 07:31 PM #554

(10-22-2010, 07:24 PM)yankneck696 Somebody had better have a good cam with alot of SD cards.....

I have a decent one with 1 gig of memory.
Finished the water injection today, going to test it tonight.

I also added a new breather/seperator inspired by FI.

   
Breather
   
Water tank pickup
   
Solenoid valve
   
Pump
   
Pressure switch


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-22-2010, 08:10 PM #555
Looks good looking forward to seeing some real OM617 numbers!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-22-2010, 08:10 PM #555

Looks good looking forward to seeing some real OM617 numbers!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-22-2010, 08:22 PM #556
I got a Droid X. 8 gig camera 720p video but I don't think imma be up there tomorrow. Undecided


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-22-2010, 08:22 PM #556

I got a Droid X. 8 gig camera 720p video but I don't think imma be up there tomorrow. Undecided



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

400Eric
TA 0301

68
10-23-2010, 12:07 AM #557
Just found this out from the dyno day organizer:
"For those in attendance, one last small note: Payments will be accepted in Cash or Credit. Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge. No checks. So, I suggest bringing cash. See you all there!"
Regards, Eric

"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"
400Eric
10-23-2010, 12:07 AM #557

Just found this out from the dyno day organizer:
"For those in attendance, one last small note: Payments will be accepted in Cash or Credit. Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge. No checks. So, I suggest bringing cash. See you all there!"
Regards, Eric


"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-23-2010, 10:41 AM #558
Good thing i looked this morning!!
Ill still be there!

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-23-2010, 10:41 AM #558

Good thing i looked this morning!!
Ill still be there!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-23-2010, 01:01 PM #559
Defiantly get some good dyno graphs! May the power be with you!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-23-2010, 01:01 PM #559

Defiantly get some good dyno graphs! May the power be with you!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-24-2010, 09:00 AM #560
Quick update:

I went to the Dyno day yesterday, but with some mixed results.

I think I am having an issue with the head gasket, no oil contamination, but the coolant hoses are getting pressurized and it looks like I have some dark substance in the coolant tankSad It does not seem to have perceptable loss of power, seems the same as before. I also seem to be leaking from the heater core, I have a drip of coolant under the car near the transmission.

On the way to pick up my son the trans started to slip a bit in fourth gear...more on that later.

Got to the dyno shop and J-sauce was the first up. Dyno operator made acouple of pulls and he was only getting around 175 hp - runs were taken in 3rd gear. The operator made runs in 4th gear and his readings went up to 350+.

When it came time to my runs he could not figure out how to get an rpm output, I didn't know so I suggested to clamp on the tach cable, but that didn't work.Angry Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?

So he made a run in 3rd and was low on the output, so he said he needed to be in 4th. I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.

He made his run, it sounded mean and not much smoke. He said it got up to 120 MPH. My HP reading was only 171.xx - That does not seem right to me at all. It may have been the trans slipping or something else. It could be correct, but I have some doubts. I don't know if the operator completely pressed the accellerator or if some other factor played in the low reading.

I will post the printout tomorrow, the graph looks good though it climbs steady and plateaus and keeps straight until you let off the accellerator.

Disappointing day to say the leastSad

This post was last modified: 10-24-2010, 10:52 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-24-2010, 09:00 AM #560

Quick update:

I went to the Dyno day yesterday, but with some mixed results.

I think I am having an issue with the head gasket, no oil contamination, but the coolant hoses are getting pressurized and it looks like I have some dark substance in the coolant tankSad It does not seem to have perceptable loss of power, seems the same as before. I also seem to be leaking from the heater core, I have a drip of coolant under the car near the transmission.

On the way to pick up my son the trans started to slip a bit in fourth gear...more on that later.

Got to the dyno shop and J-sauce was the first up. Dyno operator made acouple of pulls and he was only getting around 175 hp - runs were taken in 3rd gear. The operator made runs in 4th gear and his readings went up to 350+.

When it came time to my runs he could not figure out how to get an rpm output, I didn't know so I suggested to clamp on the tach cable, but that didn't work.Angry Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?

So he made a run in 3rd and was low on the output, so he said he needed to be in 4th. I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.

He made his run, it sounded mean and not much smoke. He said it got up to 120 MPH. My HP reading was only 171.xx - That does not seem right to me at all. It may have been the trans slipping or something else. It could be correct, but I have some doubts. I don't know if the operator completely pressed the accellerator or if some other factor played in the low reading.

I will post the printout tomorrow, the graph looks good though it climbs steady and plateaus and keeps straight until you let off the accellerator.

Disappointing day to say the leastSad


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-24-2010, 12:10 PM #561
What where the TQ numbers?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-24-2010, 12:10 PM #561

What where the TQ numbers?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-24-2010, 12:17 PM #562
(10-24-2010, 12:10 PM)willbhere4 What where the TQ numbers?

NO RPM = NO torque

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-24-2010, 12:17 PM #562

(10-24-2010, 12:10 PM)willbhere4 What where the TQ numbers?

NO RPM = NO torque


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-24-2010, 02:52 PM #563
(10-23-2010, 12:07 AM)400Eric Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge.

Thats illegal. California does not allow surcharges to be added to credit card transactions and Visa/mastercard does allow them in their business contract. Any of you that paid by credit card need to send them a written demand by certified mail to get your 4% returned!
http://fso.cpasitesolutions.com/premium/...tml#MORE:B
http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/1748.1.html

Quote:Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?
They need to use an optical tachometer with reflective tape on the crankshaft (or on the P/S pully with a 1:0.9 underdrive ratio if they don't allow anything to be placed under/infront of the car).

Quote:I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.
You need to disconnect the bowden cable and kickdown switch. It will shift to 4th around 20mph and won't shift down unless speed drops.

171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile

If you can post a hp:mph graph we can figure out RPM and torque. Either way, it sounds like you need to find a more experienced dyno shop.
This post was last modified: 10-24-2010, 02:57 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
10-24-2010, 02:52 PM #563

(10-23-2010, 12:07 AM)400Eric Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge.

Thats illegal. California does not allow surcharges to be added to credit card transactions and Visa/mastercard does allow them in their business contract. Any of you that paid by credit card need to send them a written demand by certified mail to get your 4% returned!
http://fso.cpasitesolutions.com/premium/...tml#MORE:B
http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/1748.1.html

Quote:Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?
They need to use an optical tachometer with reflective tape on the crankshaft (or on the P/S pully with a 1:0.9 underdrive ratio if they don't allow anything to be placed under/infront of the car).

Quote:I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.
You need to disconnect the bowden cable and kickdown switch. It will shift to 4th around 20mph and won't shift down unless speed drops.

171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile

If you can post a hp:mph graph we can figure out RPM and torque. Either way, it sounds like you need to find a more experienced dyno shop.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-24-2010, 03:09 PM #564
(10-24-2010, 02:52 PM)ForcedInduction
(10-23-2010, 12:07 AM)400Eric Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge.

Thats illegal. California does not allow surcharges to be added to credit card transactions and Visa/mastercard does allow them in their business contract. Any of you that paid by credit card need to send them a written demand by certified mail to get your 4% returned!
http://fso.cpasitesolutions.com/premium/...tml#MORE:B
http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/1748.1.html

Quote:Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?
They need to use an optical tachometer with reflective tape on the crankshaft (or on the P/S pully with a 1:0.9 underdrive ratio if they don't allow anything to be placed under/infront of the car).

Quote:I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.
You need to disconnect the bowden cable and kickdown switch. It will shift to 4th around 20mph and won't shift down unless speed drops.

171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile

If you can post a hp:mph graph we can figure out RPM and torque. Either way, it sounds like you need to find a more experienced dyno shop.

I paid cash, but with the caveat that he told me if it didn't work then I would get a refund. Well, I guess he considered it a good pull, not my opinion. I think were also pissed off that my car puked coolant all over the floor, I forgot to tighten the radiator cap Blush

When I asked about the refund he handed me my run sheet...I didn't want to start some shit about the conversation prior to the dyno run so I said fuck it. Word of mouth spreads pretty fast.

The opitcal seems the way to go since I have done a little research...guess they don't do deisels and don't have the tooling.

The graph does show mph, but I don't think we will be able to do anything unless I knew at what position the throttle was at during the run - rpms would be different for me as my driving style would be different - just a thought, but I could be wrong.

Next time I will do the cable and the kick down switch. Is there an easy way to disconnect the switch? I haven't looked at it yet.
This post was last modified: 10-25-2010, 04:16 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-24-2010, 03:09 PM #564

(10-24-2010, 02:52 PM)ForcedInduction
(10-23-2010, 12:07 AM)400Eric Credit payments will be subject to a 4% surcharge.

Thats illegal. California does not allow surcharges to be added to credit card transactions and Visa/mastercard does allow them in their business contract. Any of you that paid by credit card need to send them a written demand by certified mail to get your 4% returned!
http://fso.cpasitesolutions.com/premium/...tml#MORE:B
http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/1748.1.html

Quote:Where is the correct point to measure RPM output?
They need to use an optical tachometer with reflective tape on the crankshaft (or on the P/S pully with a 1:0.9 underdrive ratio if they don't allow anything to be placed under/infront of the car).

Quote:I told him put in D and go. He says is down shifted and wasn;t going to work. I told him to wait until 60-65 and floor it.
You need to disconnect the bowden cable and kickdown switch. It will shift to 4th around 20mph and won't shift down unless speed drops.

171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile

If you can post a hp:mph graph we can figure out RPM and torque. Either way, it sounds like you need to find a more experienced dyno shop.

I paid cash, but with the caveat that he told me if it didn't work then I would get a refund. Well, I guess he considered it a good pull, not my opinion. I think were also pissed off that my car puked coolant all over the floor, I forgot to tighten the radiator cap Blush

When I asked about the refund he handed me my run sheet...I didn't want to start some shit about the conversation prior to the dyno run so I said fuck it. Word of mouth spreads pretty fast.

The opitcal seems the way to go since I have done a little research...guess they don't do deisels and don't have the tooling.

The graph does show mph, but I don't think we will be able to do anything unless I knew at what position the throttle was at during the run - rpms would be different for me as my driving style would be different - just a thought, but I could be wrong.

Next time I will do the cable and the kick down switch. Is there an easy way to disconnect the switch? I haven't looked at it yet.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-24-2010, 03:36 PM #565
There is a plug directly at the switch.
ForcedInduction
10-24-2010, 03:36 PM #565

There is a plug directly at the switch.

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-24-2010, 04:54 PM #566
Thats a bummer that you didnt get your money back, kinda seems like bullshit, i dont think those pulls were worht the money, especially with no accurate readings.

I still wanna find a dyno for diesels so i can run my car too, it is a bummer about yesterday.
But at least you got to hear how your car sounds from the outside!

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-24-2010, 04:54 PM #566

Thats a bummer that you didnt get your money back, kinda seems like bullshit, i dont think those pulls were worht the money, especially with no accurate readings.

I still wanna find a dyno for diesels so i can run my car too, it is a bummer about yesterday.
But at least you got to hear how your car sounds from the outside!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

E300TSC
Turbo-Supercharged

321
10-24-2010, 05:40 PM #567
It's a shame you didn't have much success at the dyno... I can totally relate. My car is a real challenge because of the lack of space for the optical connector and a lack of a handy tach signal. It also downshifts like a big dog and is generally unruly.

In my mind, an unsatisfactory run that's lacking any of the standard parameters should be refunded but the operators don't think that way and will always fight to keep your money using any excuse they can. Not customer service related in the least...

After that bad dyno experience, I used my ocilloscope find a good tach signal for next time. Then, I ran a loop of wire outside the ECU box for easy access.

1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
E300TSC
10-24-2010, 05:40 PM #567

It's a shame you didn't have much success at the dyno... I can totally relate. My car is a real challenge because of the lack of space for the optical connector and a lack of a handy tach signal. It also downshifts like a big dog and is generally unruly.

In my mind, an unsatisfactory run that's lacking any of the standard parameters should be refunded but the operators don't think that way and will always fight to keep your money using any excuse they can. Not customer service related in the least...

After that bad dyno experience, I used my ocilloscope find a good tach signal for next time. Then, I ran a loop of wire outside the ECU box for easy access.


1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.

J-Sauce
Naturally-aspirated

9
10-24-2010, 09:22 PM #568
Hey Rudolph, I did not know they ended up making you pay. I do apologize for the bad experience you had. I had only been to that shop once before, and had a good experience, or I would not have recommended them for this event. I should have listened to CaptainAmerica, who suggested another shop. The only problem was that it is here in riverside, and farther than the majority of our group was willing to travel. I do appreciate your attendance though, and will contact the shop Monday in an effort to get you at least a partial refund.

Needless to say, I will not be holding another event here. Their inexperience actually scared away 1 C63, and at least another Benz and Fiat owner. I wish I would have known your car was downshifting, I might have been able to help with the bowden cable.

All said and done, the drag strip will definitely provide you with some useful information, at less than half the price and more than twice the fun! So at least we have THAT to look forward to.
Oh and as for thew credit card transaction charge, I don't understand why it would be such a big deal. It's just $2.00. It costs that much to send a certified letter.

It's a common practice I have come across countless times when purchasing goods or services for my cars. There is almost always a "cash discount". A cash transaction can be omitted from company records, and the shop will pass the tax savings onto you. Sure, it may not be exactly ethical, but the government dips their greedy hands into my wallet too much as it is. I don't need them taking money off the top every time my personal property (or someone else's) changes hands. Would you prefer EVERYONE paid the $2.00 on top?
This post was last modified: 10-24-2010, 09:28 PM by J-Sauce.
J-Sauce
10-24-2010, 09:22 PM #568

Hey Rudolph, I did not know they ended up making you pay. I do apologize for the bad experience you had. I had only been to that shop once before, and had a good experience, or I would not have recommended them for this event. I should have listened to CaptainAmerica, who suggested another shop. The only problem was that it is here in riverside, and farther than the majority of our group was willing to travel. I do appreciate your attendance though, and will contact the shop Monday in an effort to get you at least a partial refund.

Needless to say, I will not be holding another event here. Their inexperience actually scared away 1 C63, and at least another Benz and Fiat owner. I wish I would have known your car was downshifting, I might have been able to help with the bowden cable.

All said and done, the drag strip will definitely provide you with some useful information, at less than half the price and more than twice the fun! So at least we have THAT to look forward to.


Oh and as for thew credit card transaction charge, I don't understand why it would be such a big deal. It's just $2.00. It costs that much to send a certified letter.

It's a common practice I have come across countless times when purchasing goods or services for my cars. There is almost always a "cash discount". A cash transaction can be omitted from company records, and the shop will pass the tax savings onto you. Sure, it may not be exactly ethical, but the government dips their greedy hands into my wallet too much as it is. I don't need them taking money off the top every time my personal property (or someone else's) changes hands. Would you prefer EVERYONE paid the $2.00 on top?

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-24-2010, 09:33 PM #569
(10-24-2010, 09:22 PM)J-Sauce Hey Rudolph, I did not know they ended up making you pay. I do apologize for the bad experience you had. I had only been to that shop once before, and had a good experience, or I would not have recommended them for this event. I should have listened to CaptainAmerica, who suggested another shop. The only problem was that it is here in riverside, and farther than the majority of our group was willing to travel. I do appreciate your attendance though, and will contact the shop Monday in an effort to get you at least a partial refund.

Needless to say, I will not be holding another event here. Their inexperience actually scared away 1 C63, and at least another Benz and Fiat owner. I wish I would have known your car was downshifting, I might have been able to help with the bowden cable.

All said and done, the drag strip will definitely provide you with some useful information, at less than half the price and more than twice the fun! So at least we have THAT to look forward to.

No problem...I wasn't all bad, I got to see some really cool cars in the process.

I will be there early on Saturday, probably around 7ish.
This post was last modified: 10-24-2010, 09:33 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-24-2010, 09:33 PM #569

(10-24-2010, 09:22 PM)J-Sauce Hey Rudolph, I did not know they ended up making you pay. I do apologize for the bad experience you had. I had only been to that shop once before, and had a good experience, or I would not have recommended them for this event. I should have listened to CaptainAmerica, who suggested another shop. The only problem was that it is here in riverside, and farther than the majority of our group was willing to travel. I do appreciate your attendance though, and will contact the shop Monday in an effort to get you at least a partial refund.

Needless to say, I will not be holding another event here. Their inexperience actually scared away 1 C63, and at least another Benz and Fiat owner. I wish I would have known your car was downshifting, I might have been able to help with the bowden cable.

All said and done, the drag strip will definitely provide you with some useful information, at less than half the price and more than twice the fun! So at least we have THAT to look forward to.

No problem...I wasn't all bad, I got to see some really cool cars in the process.

I will be there early on Saturday, probably around 7ish.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-24-2010, 09:39 PM #570
(10-24-2010, 09:22 PM)J-Sauce Oh and as for thew credit card transaction charge, I don't understand why it would be such a big deal. It's just $2.00. It costs that much to send a certified letter.
Whats $2 to you, but multiply that across hundreds of customers and it ads up to quite a bit of illicit money. Doing nothing allows them to continue stealing.

Quote:It's a common practice I have come across countless times when purchasing goods or services for my cars. There is almost always a "cash discount".
Thats how they need to do it.
ForcedInduction
10-24-2010, 09:39 PM #570

(10-24-2010, 09:22 PM)J-Sauce Oh and as for thew credit card transaction charge, I don't understand why it would be such a big deal. It's just $2.00. It costs that much to send a certified letter.
Whats $2 to you, but multiply that across hundreds of customers and it ads up to quite a bit of illicit money. Doing nothing allows them to continue stealing.

Quote:It's a common practice I have come across countless times when purchasing goods or services for my cars. There is almost always a "cash discount".
Thats how they need to do it.

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-24-2010, 09:51 PM #571
I use WOT Performance. www.wotperformance.com

I am buddies with the owner (Pete). I was speaking with J-Sauce before the dyno day trying to get him to change dyno's but it was too late. Pete has a Mustang dyno first off, which is better (more accurate/ real world numbers) than a Dyno Jet. I'm pretty sure he does diesels all the time and has the optical sensor needed.. He's not a dick, and is always willing to make the customer happy. He is good at what he does and will do what it takes to get a good run if there is some trouble. I had mentioned about doing a dyno day to him and his prices were the same. 10 cars $50 bucks a piece, 3 or 4 runs. You wont leave with wacky numbers like J-Sauce and Rudolf but with the numbers your car actually makes Wink We should get another day planned out @ WOT. It may be closer or further for some of you but it will be worth it.

How many cars turned out anyway?

Oh, and if your worried about not having Dyno Jet numbers for previous comparison, he can convert the real world numbers over to the over inflated Dyno Jet numbers for ya.
This post was last modified: 10-24-2010, 09:53 PM by Captain America.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-24-2010, 09:51 PM #571

I use WOT Performance. www.wotperformance.com

I am buddies with the owner (Pete). I was speaking with J-Sauce before the dyno day trying to get him to change dyno's but it was too late. Pete has a Mustang dyno first off, which is better (more accurate/ real world numbers) than a Dyno Jet. I'm pretty sure he does diesels all the time and has the optical sensor needed.. He's not a dick, and is always willing to make the customer happy. He is good at what he does and will do what it takes to get a good run if there is some trouble. I had mentioned about doing a dyno day to him and his prices were the same. 10 cars $50 bucks a piece, 3 or 4 runs. You wont leave with wacky numbers like J-Sauce and Rudolf but with the numbers your car actually makes Wink We should get another day planned out @ WOT. It may be closer or further for some of you but it will be worth it.

How many cars turned out anyway?

Oh, and if your worried about not having Dyno Jet numbers for previous comparison, he can convert the real world numbers over to the over inflated Dyno Jet numbers for ya.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

400Eric
TA 0301

68
10-25-2010, 03:04 AM #572
Captain, there were 11 cars that got dynoed.

You are right, we should get another day planned out @ WOT! Why don't you put it together? I'll spread the word to help you like I did for J-sauce.

Rudolph, being a dyno virgin myself, J-sauce had to teach me about the bowden cable and kick down switch. I figured that since you've dynoed your truck before, you knew about such things. I wish you had told us if you needed help or had questions about this stuff as I was just learning it too for myself and would have been happy to pass along the info and help you do the disconnections.

I know the Sauce-man well enough to know that he will give 120% in his effort to get you some justice with that shop. He is just as disappointed as you are with them and he is truly "done" with that establishment.

As for me, I didn't appreciate the fact that they took what seemed like forever to finish their "lunch hour" (which seemed more like two hours) while so many customers were waiting. Not cool. To compensate, just to help the other folks who couldn't stay, I waited till everyone else had done their cars before I did mine. I didn't get loaded up and out of there until 8:30 PM. All the while the guy was whining about being there so late. The nerve!

I too don't blame the Sauce-man as he had been treated well there before and I know he wouldn't have brought us there if he had any doubts about them. It's just one of those live and learn things!
Regards, Eric
This post was last modified: 10-25-2010, 05:09 AM by 400Eric.

"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"
400Eric
10-25-2010, 03:04 AM #572

Captain, there were 11 cars that got dynoed.

You are right, we should get another day planned out @ WOT! Why don't you put it together? I'll spread the word to help you like I did for J-sauce.

Rudolph, being a dyno virgin myself, J-sauce had to teach me about the bowden cable and kick down switch. I figured that since you've dynoed your truck before, you knew about such things. I wish you had told us if you needed help or had questions about this stuff as I was just learning it too for myself and would have been happy to pass along the info and help you do the disconnections.

I know the Sauce-man well enough to know that he will give 120% in his effort to get you some justice with that shop. He is just as disappointed as you are with them and he is truly "done" with that establishment.

As for me, I didn't appreciate the fact that they took what seemed like forever to finish their "lunch hour" (which seemed more like two hours) while so many customers were waiting. Not cool. To compensate, just to help the other folks who couldn't stay, I waited till everyone else had done their cars before I did mine. I didn't get loaded up and out of there until 8:30 PM. All the while the guy was whining about being there so late. The nerve!

I too don't blame the Sauce-man as he had been treated well there before and I know he wouldn't have brought us there if he had any doubts about them. It's just one of those live and learn things!
Regards, Eric


"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-25-2010, 11:09 AM #573
Wow! 11 cars is awesome. That is the only thing Pete @ WOT is worried about... is the turnout. And that doesn't seem to be an issue so great!

Yeah the Sauce wouldnt have set it up if he knew it wasn't going to turn out well.

What do you guys think a good date is? I'll make sure with Pete that he can run the diesels no problem and see what he says and get back with you. I work right around the corner from his shop so talking to him today shouldn't be a problem


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-25-2010, 11:09 AM #573

Wow! 11 cars is awesome. That is the only thing Pete @ WOT is worried about... is the turnout. And that doesn't seem to be an issue so great!

Yeah the Sauce wouldnt have set it up if he knew it wasn't going to turn out well.

What do you guys think a good date is? I'll make sure with Pete that he can run the diesels no problem and see what he says and get back with you. I work right around the corner from his shop so talking to him today shouldn't be a problem



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

J-Sauce
Naturally-aspirated

9
10-25-2010, 01:51 PM #574
I am not really concerned with running my car again, but I will commit to this event if needed to get the required turnout. I will definitely show up, even if I do not run my car. I have no excuse not to make an event 5 miles from my house!
J-Sauce
10-25-2010, 01:51 PM #574

I am not really concerned with running my car again, but I will commit to this event if needed to get the required turnout. I will definitely show up, even if I do not run my car. I have no excuse not to make an event 5 miles from my house!

J-Sauce
Naturally-aspirated

9
10-25-2010, 03:08 PM #575
Ok Robert I just stopped by the shop and talked with the owner and the tech. The offered to refund your money. Please contact me. (951)***-****

(Number removed for your safety Big Grin )
This post was last modified: 10-25-2010, 03:45 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.
J-Sauce
10-25-2010, 03:08 PM #575

Ok Robert I just stopped by the shop and talked with the owner and the tech. The offered to refund your money. Please contact me. (951)***-****

(Number removed for your safety Big Grin )

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-25-2010, 03:42 PM #576
Ok so I just got done talking with Pete @ WOT. We are go for a dyno day if you guys want to do another. He's got the optical sensor to get the RPM signal. He said that setting up the optical takes a bit of time so sometimes its easeir to set the engine RPM in the dyno computer based on roll speed which he said works out well. It would be $50 a car for 3 runs. He said with his schedualling a sunday would work out better (didn't think that would be an issue ). Also said that the gas Benz's with traction control can be tricky because the computer trips out when the front wheels are not turning, I dunno if this is a known problem or not... anyway, if we wanna come up with a date we are good to go. I would definitely be there with my POS so that would count as one.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-25-2010, 03:42 PM #576

Ok so I just got done talking with Pete @ WOT. We are go for a dyno day if you guys want to do another. He's got the optical sensor to get the RPM signal. He said that setting up the optical takes a bit of time so sometimes its easeir to set the engine RPM in the dyno computer based on roll speed which he said works out well. It would be $50 a car for 3 runs. He said with his schedualling a sunday would work out better (didn't think that would be an issue ). Also said that the gas Benz's with traction control can be tricky because the computer trips out when the front wheels are not turning, I dunno if this is a known problem or not... anyway, if we wanna come up with a date we are good to go. I would definitely be there with my POS so that would count as one.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-25-2010, 03:43 PM #577
(10-25-2010, 03:08 PM)J-Sauce Ok Robert I just stopped by the shop and talked with the owner and the tech. The offered to refund your money. Please contact me.

That is best news I have heard all day! Thanks.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-25-2010, 03:43 PM #577

(10-25-2010, 03:08 PM)J-Sauce Ok Robert I just stopped by the shop and talked with the owner and the tech. The offered to refund your money. Please contact me.

That is best news I have heard all day! Thanks.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-25-2010, 08:28 PM #578
I talked to J-Sauce today and he told me I had to go down to the dyno shop in person to get my cash. I showed up this afternoon on my way home from work. I get to the shop and they somewhat acknowledged my presence. A few minutes later the operator / whatever, came out with a $50.00 bill hanging in the air, doesn’t say fuck you or anything. I think whatever and take the money and leave.

I wanted to talk to the guy, let him know I didn’t really say anything bad, I was just disappointed and vented; hell I would have let him keep half for the effort, but treat my like that - his loss. I guess they also didn’t like the fact that I did a burn out and left a 60’ tire mark when I left their facility on Saturday. Big Grin

Bottom line, got the money back!


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-25-2010, 08:28 PM #578

I talked to J-Sauce today and he told me I had to go down to the dyno shop in person to get my cash. I showed up this afternoon on my way home from work. I get to the shop and they somewhat acknowledged my presence. A few minutes later the operator / whatever, came out with a $50.00 bill hanging in the air, doesn’t say fuck you or anything. I think whatever and take the money and leave.

I wanted to talk to the guy, let him know I didn’t really say anything bad, I was just disappointed and vented; hell I would have let him keep half for the effort, but treat my like that - his loss. I guess they also didn’t like the fact that I did a burn out and left a 60’ tire mark when I left their facility on Saturday. Big Grin

Bottom line, got the money back!


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-25-2010, 08:41 PM #579
Was this the burnout i saw around the corner?
Cause that was niiiiice! Put a big ol Big Grin onto my face!

I am DEFINETLY down for a dyno day at WOT, knowing that they can read the diesel even without a tach pickup i will for sure run my car..all 60somthing HP! haha

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-25-2010, 08:41 PM #579

Was this the burnout i saw around the corner?
Cause that was niiiiice! Put a big ol Big Grin onto my face!

I am DEFINETLY down for a dyno day at WOT, knowing that they can read the diesel even without a tach pickup i will for sure run my car..all 60somthing HP! haha


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-25-2010, 09:24 PM #580
It may have been, it was around 2:30ish

Here is the dyno sheet.

.pdf
Dyno Run 10-23-10.pdf
Size: 332.06 KB / Downloads: 563

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-25-2010, 09:24 PM #580

It may have been, it was around 2:30ish

Here is the dyno sheet.

.pdf
Dyno Run 10-23-10.pdf
Size: 332.06 KB / Downloads: 563


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

400Eric
TA 0301

68
10-25-2010, 11:08 PM #581
My vote is for the last Sat. of November, a week before our next track day. [Edit: Next track day AFTER the one we have coming up this coming Sat!]

Sundays are not good for those who have church obligations which might adversely effect our turn-out. I'm one of those whose Mommy won't let me come out to play if it's on a Sunday.

Rudolph, how did you edit the Sauce-man's post? Are you a moderator? I'd better watch what I say!
Regards, Eric
This post was last modified: 10-26-2010, 05:42 AM by 400Eric.

"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"
400Eric
10-25-2010, 11:08 PM #581

My vote is for the last Sat. of November, a week before our next track day. [Edit: Next track day AFTER the one we have coming up this coming Sat!]

Sundays are not good for those who have church obligations which might adversely effect our turn-out. I'm one of those whose Mommy won't let me come out to play if it's on a Sunday.

Rudolph, how did you edit the Sauce-man's post? Are you a moderator? I'd better watch what I say!
Regards, Eric


"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-26-2010, 07:10 AM #582
(10-25-2010, 11:08 PM)400Eric My vote is for the last Sat. of November, a week before our next track day. [Edit: Next track day AFTER the one we have coming up this coming Sat!]

Sundays are not good for those who have church obligations which might adversely effect our turn-out. I'm one of those whose Mommy won't let me come out to play if it's on a Sunday.

Rudolph, how did you edit the Sauce-man's post? Are you a moderator? I'd better watch what I say!
Regards, Eric

Yes, I am a moderator, BUT I only edit to protect the innocentBig Grin I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-26-2010, 07:10 AM #582

(10-25-2010, 11:08 PM)400Eric My vote is for the last Sat. of November, a week before our next track day. [Edit: Next track day AFTER the one we have coming up this coming Sat!]

Sundays are not good for those who have church obligations which might adversely effect our turn-out. I'm one of those whose Mommy won't let me come out to play if it's on a Sunday.

Rudolph, how did you edit the Sauce-man's post? Are you a moderator? I'd better watch what I say!
Regards, Eric

Yes, I am a moderator, BUT I only edit to protect the innocentBig Grin I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ConnClark
GT2256V

109
10-26-2010, 12:18 PM #583
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi
ConnClark
10-26-2010, 12:18 PM #583

(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
10-26-2010, 12:29 PM #584
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

posteriquote...
Big Grin

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
10-26-2010, 12:29 PM #584

(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

posteriquote...
Big Grin


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-26-2010, 02:05 PM #585
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-26-2010, 02:05 PM #585

(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
10-26-2010, 02:38 PM #586
(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


TDI power! Cool



.


(10-25-2010, 09:24 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ...
Here is the dyno sheet.

(10-24-2010, 02:52 PM)ForcedInduction 171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile
...


I am guessing that translates to about 200 horsepower at the flywheel. Agreed it is a lot better than everyone.



.
This post was last modified: 10-26-2010, 02:54 PM by DeliveryValve.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
10-26-2010, 02:38 PM #586

(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


TDI power! Cool



.


(10-25-2010, 09:24 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ...
Here is the dyno sheet.

(10-24-2010, 02:52 PM)ForcedInduction 171hp is still a lot better than anyone else. Smile
...


I am guessing that translates to about 200 horsepower at the flywheel. Agreed it is a lot better than everyone.



.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
10-26-2010, 03:16 PM #587
(10-26-2010, 02:38 PM)DeliveryValve I am guessing that translates to about 200 horsepower at the flywheel. Agreed it is a lot better than everyone.

.

I don't know what you guys are talking about, "im getting 45mpg at 80 mph in my stock 200 hp 81 mercedes diesel" Big Grin

If only performance was as easy as posting a craigslist add!

I agree, if thats 200hp at the flywheel with even a questionable dyno run, thats pretty damn good. Can't wait to hear the 2nd opinion run.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
10-26-2010, 03:16 PM #587

(10-26-2010, 02:38 PM)DeliveryValve I am guessing that translates to about 200 horsepower at the flywheel. Agreed it is a lot better than everyone.

.

I don't know what you guys are talking about, "im getting 45mpg at 80 mph in my stock 200 hp 81 mercedes diesel" Big Grin

If only performance was as easy as posting a craigslist add!

I agree, if thats 200hp at the flywheel with even a questionable dyno run, thats pretty damn good. Can't wait to hear the 2nd opinion run.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
10-26-2010, 08:04 PM #588
Glad you got your money back from the dyno run! I still need to figure out an rpm source as well. I disconnect my kickdown switch and have the guy run it in 3rd. He goes up through the gears, then lets it back down to 1500ish rpm in 3rd and then goes for it. It took him a few tries to get it right, but it seems to work ok. He reads 3k on the tach in 3rd and holds it there to 'calibrate' it to the rpm vs wheel speed. The torque converter ratio throws it off, but it's better than nothing at this point.

On a side note, I've been playing with a spare MW pump I have (1981 300D na). I've been checking how the ALDA system works, and it seems that if the alda rod is down too far and you floor it, it wont give full fueling. (I've been checking with the top cover off, so the spring is not pulling it up.) There is a catch or notch that the alda rod has to pull up far enough to engauge and give that last few mm of rack travel. My concern with this is, if the alda is adjusted down just a hair too far, when its floored the alda can't pull the rod up in time (no/low boost) to allow for full fueling. Rudolph, I don't know if your M pump will have this issue due to your external custom alda goodness, but for the rest of us, this could be causing low dyno readings. I was disappointed in my 5hp dyno increase from ported head, cam, bigger turbo, etc but I've been thinking that the alda wasn't allowing full fueling. It certainly felt better on the street than 5hp, but I had boost before flooring it. I'm working on a test set up for mechanical adjustment of the alda. I'll let you all know what I find. Also, if someone has more, or more complete, information on this, please feel free to share. Oh, Rudolph, feel free to move this rambling side note to another area if I'm hijacking your thread! Tongue

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
10-26-2010, 08:04 PM #588

Glad you got your money back from the dyno run! I still need to figure out an rpm source as well. I disconnect my kickdown switch and have the guy run it in 3rd. He goes up through the gears, then lets it back down to 1500ish rpm in 3rd and then goes for it. It took him a few tries to get it right, but it seems to work ok. He reads 3k on the tach in 3rd and holds it there to 'calibrate' it to the rpm vs wheel speed. The torque converter ratio throws it off, but it's better than nothing at this point.

On a side note, I've been playing with a spare MW pump I have (1981 300D na). I've been checking how the ALDA system works, and it seems that if the alda rod is down too far and you floor it, it wont give full fueling. (I've been checking with the top cover off, so the spring is not pulling it up.) There is a catch or notch that the alda rod has to pull up far enough to engauge and give that last few mm of rack travel. My concern with this is, if the alda is adjusted down just a hair too far, when its floored the alda can't pull the rod up in time (no/low boost) to allow for full fueling. Rudolph, I don't know if your M pump will have this issue due to your external custom alda goodness, but for the rest of us, this could be causing low dyno readings. I was disappointed in my 5hp dyno increase from ported head, cam, bigger turbo, etc but I've been thinking that the alda wasn't allowing full fueling. It certainly felt better on the street than 5hp, but I had boost before flooring it. I'm working on a test set up for mechanical adjustment of the alda. I'll let you all know what I find. Also, if someone has more, or more complete, information on this, please feel free to share. Oh, Rudolph, feel free to move this rambling side note to another area if I'm hijacking your thread! Tongue


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

400Eric
TA 0301

68
10-27-2010, 12:55 AM #589
(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)

I'm not the world's biggest Audi fan by any means. In fact, I'm far from it. But the Audi built diesel in the first car in my sig has 304,000 miles on it which is at least worthy of note. And I have not been easy on it either.
Regards, Eric

This post was last modified: 10-27-2010, 01:02 AM by 400Eric.

"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"
400Eric
10-27-2010, 12:55 AM #589

(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark
(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....

Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)

I'm not the world's biggest Audi fan by any means. In fact, I'm far from it. But the Audi built diesel in the first car in my sig has 304,000 miles on it which is at least worthy of note. And I have not been easy on it either.
Regards, Eric


"I've had the car upside down and still been steering trying to correct it"  Richard Petty
85 Volvo 740 turbo diesel "Bolbo 1"
90 Volvo 740 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 2"
93 Volvo 940 wagon turbo gas "Bolbo 5"
89 300E "Benzer 1" 15.924 uncorrected at Pomona
93 400E "Benzer 3" 14.200 uncorrected at Fontana
95 E420 "Benzer 4" 
87 300D "Benzer 7"  Big Grin
87 300D "Benzer 8"  Big Grin
85 Dodge flatbed tow truck "Festus"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" (1 of the AMC 360 powered ones)
94 Ford F700 Cummins 6BT Allison AT545 (all factory!) "Thomas"

Silberpfeil
Slowly Sideways

85
10-27-2010, 09:46 PM #590
(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


Yes! I'd love to throw a Touareg V10 TDI into a Benz!
and of course the things Audi did with the R8 (race car) diesel--amazing!
This post was last modified: 10-27-2010, 09:51 PM by Silberpfeil.

"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
Silberpfeil
10-27-2010, 09:46 PM #590

(10-26-2010, 02:05 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would not delete a post uinless it is spam, if anything, I would block out anything offensive or questionable.

Lets test your skills on this....
(10-26-2010, 12:18 PM)ConnClark Sell your Benz and buy an Audi

(10-26-2010, 07:10 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Not offensive to me...think Audi racing (Diesel)


Yes! I'd love to throw a Touareg V10 TDI into a Benz!
and of course the things Audi did with the R8 (race car) diesel--amazing!


"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car

J-Sauce
Naturally-aspirated

9
10-28-2010, 01:31 AM #591
Hey Rudolpho!

I took the liberty of rendering your dyno files for you. Feel free to edit my post if you dont want it up. Smile

[Image: RudolphDyno.png]
J-Sauce
10-28-2010, 01:31 AM #591

Hey Rudolpho!

I took the liberty of rendering your dyno files for you. Feel free to edit my post if you dont want it up. Smile

[Image: RudolphDyno.png]

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-28-2010, 07:12 AM #592
No problem...thank you.

The red graph is the first run in 3rd gear.

The blue graph is the second run in 4th gear when I told to wait until 60 mph to mash it and go. WOW! 118 mph at top speedBig Grin I wonder what rpms the motor was turning?

Even though the numbers are not what I expected and may not be accurate, the slope of the graph looks pretty good. Power goes up quickly and doesn't seem to drop dramatically until the accellerator is released.
This post was last modified: 10-28-2010, 07:16 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-28-2010, 07:12 AM #592

No problem...thank you.

The red graph is the first run in 3rd gear.

The blue graph is the second run in 4th gear when I told to wait until 60 mph to mash it and go. WOW! 118 mph at top speedBig Grin I wonder what rpms the motor was turning?

Even though the numbers are not what I expected and may not be accurate, the slope of the graph looks pretty good. Power goes up quickly and doesn't seem to drop dramatically until the accellerator is released.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
10-28-2010, 02:25 PM #593
Oh man, I love that flat graph!! I wish mine looked like that! Haha! Going to have to look into rpm signals now for dyno runs...

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
10-28-2010, 02:25 PM #593

Oh man, I love that flat graph!! I wish mine looked like that! Haha! Going to have to look into rpm signals now for dyno runs...


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

yankneck696
Build it so strong & blow it up good !!!

395
10-28-2010, 03:12 PM #594
<<"Betsie" a.k.a. "Gremlin" (girlfriend's car) '81 Chevette 47k original miles>>
Boy, I remember my 81 Chevette. Big & fat tires in the rear (26"X8") & air shocks. Great for the trails in NH.
yankneck696
10-28-2010, 03:12 PM #594

<<"Betsie" a.k.a. "Gremlin" (girlfriend's car) '81 Chevette 47k original miles>>
Boy, I remember my 81 Chevette. Big & fat tires in the rear (26"X8") & air shocks. Great for the trails in NH.

J-Sauce
Naturally-aspirated

9
10-28-2010, 11:42 PM #595
If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!
J-Sauce
10-28-2010, 11:42 PM #595

If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-29-2010, 06:12 AM #596
(10-28-2010, 11:42 PM)J-Sauce If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!

If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-29-2010, 06:12 AM #596

(10-28-2010, 11:42 PM)J-Sauce If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!

If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

stan
Holset

328
10-29-2010, 06:34 AM #597
(10-29-2010, 06:12 AM)Rudolf_Diesel If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315

i'm glad i'm not the only one on the forums at such an hour :-P
stan
10-29-2010, 06:34 AM #597

(10-29-2010, 06:12 AM)Rudolf_Diesel If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315

i'm glad i'm not the only one on the forums at such an hour :-P

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-29-2010, 06:44 AM #598
(10-29-2010, 06:34 AM)stan
(10-29-2010, 06:12 AM)Rudolf_Diesel If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315

i'm glad i'm not the only one on the forums at such an hour :-P

shh...I am workBig Grin
This post was last modified: 10-29-2010, 10:21 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-29-2010, 06:44 AM #598

(10-29-2010, 06:34 AM)stan
(10-29-2010, 06:12 AM)Rudolf_Diesel If someone wants to do that kudos, my brain hurts right now and I don't relly feel up to itTongue If someone wants to figure it out , here is the data:

Tires: 205/70R14
R&P: 3.07
Trans: 722.315

i'm glad i'm not the only one on the forums at such an hour :-P

shh...I am workBig Grin


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-29-2010, 10:31 AM #599
I crunched a few numbers using some online calculators I found and came up with the following for torque curves:

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-29-2010, 10:31 AM #599

I crunched a few numbers using some online calculators I found and came up with the following for torque curves:

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ConnClark
GT2256V

109
10-29-2010, 10:56 AM #600
(10-28-2010, 11:42 PM)J-Sauce If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!

Why not just shoot a video of the instrument cluster driving in fourth at few different speeds. I'm sure the tach and the speedometer aren't 100% accurate but it will be close enough. The RPMs should scale linearly to the higher speeds.
ConnClark
10-29-2010, 10:56 AM #600

(10-28-2010, 11:42 PM)J-Sauce If you really wanna get technical, you can figure out your RPMs using your gear ratios and tire size. It may not be completely 100% accurate because of the nature of rubber tires, but it will give you an idea!

Why not just shoot a video of the instrument cluster driving in fourth at few different speeds. I'm sure the tach and the speedometer aren't 100% accurate but it will be close enough. The RPMs should scale linearly to the higher speeds.

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