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617 Exhaust Manifold Thread.

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:22:41 +0000

Here are pictures of various 617 exhaust manifolds I've collected and thought it would be useful for some to see the differences. If there are any more variations please post them.

EGR Turbo Manifold

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1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom:front view (Notice single runner on rear exhaust ports - on left.)

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1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom : top view

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1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom: back view

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N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

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1978 N/A Manifold - left vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - Right

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: top view

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom (Notice dual runners for rear exhaust ports): front view

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: back view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: Back view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: top view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 w115 300D- left vs N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

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W115 N/A Manifold - Top vs Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold - Bottom

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W115 N/A Manifold - Left vs w123 N/A Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold.

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Found 1987 300D om603 for $360!!

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:24:09 +0000

Just picked this up cheap. I have been browsing for a good 3.0 603 to replace my dad's 3.5 rod bender. I figured I would find something one day cheap in a 124 body with other parts I could use too. Found this with 227,500 miles on it. Engine did not run when I got there. Glow plug relay fuse/strip was not connected so start up was not easy. Air was in the fuel system so I bleed it (although it is supposed to be be self bleeding). Also, the ELR (controls idle speed) was set at 2, instead of the default 5 (I think it is).

I got it to start up in 5-6 minutes after using my battery. It doesn't overheat and upper hose was not hard so head appears to be fine, even though it is a #14 head. It does have green coolant though. Transmission shifted ok, although there is a vacuum leak somewhere and the fluid needs to be changed. When I got it home, it sat overnight and I tried cranking it in the morning but it did not work. Checked fuel stuff with no luck, but then bridged the glow plug fuse strip and it cranked immediately. Engine has a slight tick, which is how my wagon was until I swapped to synthetic oil. My guess is the lifters.

The car was a Michigan car so it is a rust bucket. Interior is great though so it must have been mostly highway miles in it's early days. It is also the uncommon black interior. My plans is to get the engine and transmission up to snuff and then pull them and clean them and replace seals and have it sitting ready for an install somewhere else. And I MAY put this transmission in my wagon, while I save up to have my original rebuilt for my power. I will gut everything else and sell what I can. The interior should pay for the car!

Here is a video, let me know if you have any problems viewing. if so i can upload it to youtube:
http://www.godspeed22.com/benz/1987300d.mov

Not Diesel but here is some DTM hotness

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:01:49 +0000

http://jalopnik.com/5628195/god-i-love-the-germans

I watched it 2x!

Post limit

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:06:55 +0000

Looks like there is a 350 post limit to threads.

There have been several replies and e-mail notices but nothing shows.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/new-...t-858.html

New to Mercedes Diesels

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:54:15 +0000

About two months ago i bought my first Mercedes diesel car. It was a 79 300d non turbo car and since then i bought an 82 300d turbo car. It has 172000 original miles and is a really clean car inside and out. I'm not very familiar with any mods on any diesel. i am only 20 years old. My 82 doesnt seem as it runs the way i thought it should. its a little doggish. not quite as bad as my non turbo car but not where i thought it should be. I'm sure it has sat many years without being drove. i was curious as to any maintanance tips to help it run better. I've replaced all of the filters but thats about it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

1987 300TDT Spring/Suspension Upgrade

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:32:56 +0000

Ok...this is something I would like to do at some point so this thread will be for documenting my findings. Dave M. / gsxr has a lot of information on this so I am sure he will have something to add at some point.

Currently the Wagon is stock aside from the front struts being Bistein HD (Heavy Duty). The wagon is mostly utilitarian so I am not wanting to drop it much, maybe an inch at most. Currently is has a LOT of body roll, especially in the rear. I am unsure if this is because of worn subframe mounts, bad springs, or perhaps bad SLS shocks. I also have a low pitched resonating when running on anything other than a flat road. I think I am going to replace the SLS mounts/bushings and see what that does and go from there.

My goals would be to have a "Mercedes" feel, but a bit firmer with less body roll. In my head I want the Sportline feel, but I have not driven one so who knows. Apparently the limo front sway bar and the 500e rear are popular options. As for Springs, I think any new spring will make a big difference so I only would want slightly stiffer without much ride height difference.

anyone else having a problem posting pics?

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:15:36 +0000

or just me? I keep getting this message, even on pics Ive posted before without change-

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September 2010 Moderator Elections

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:17:55 +0000

Please vote for whomever you feel is most capable for being a capable and fair moderator. The job details are simple, keep the squabbling down, ban the spammers and move threads in the wrong forum. Candidates are ordered alphabetically, not by my preference.

Best video on the internet

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:45:47 +0000

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/best...l#pid17035

Just a link to the thread in the proper section, I know this is the most active subsection so just throwing a shout out from here.

FS: leaky om603 pumps $175 shipped

Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:26:46 +0000

I figure you should do the DV seals on these injection pumps. I have 3.

Garrett GT2359V off en W211 E 320 CDI

Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:46:42 +0000

Not mine. Found this GT2359v for sale on TDIclub.com
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=260955

Guy wants 5 Benjamins for plus shipping from Sweden.

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TD Tuning 300-400 hp

Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:23:32 +0000

Hello, my name is Artem, I'm from Ukraine Odessa
Today i watch this video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xHzflDUa...r_embedded ) and decide that i what to tun such car.

I try to find some info on your site, but i forget my English and some slang i can't understand.
If it's not hard for you, can you tell me what i need to tun w123-w124 2.5-3.0 td to have minimum 300 hp. What transmission i need, what turbo and els.

And if it's not hard, don't use slang, because some times it's difficult to translate and understand
thanks a lot, sorry for my english=)

No Dashlights??

Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:29:13 +0000

The dashlights in my '82 300D arent working, also the tach only works occasionally. All fuses are still good, any ideas??

what diesel engine can be swapped with a 280ge?

Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16:44:26 +0000

purchasing a 280ge and m110 engine is nice and all so i plan to use it in another project. what diesel engine will be a direct fit to the 4 speed manual?

syncro g i know you did something similar how involved was it?

Best video on the internet

Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:31:17 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24afjVqm2...embedded#!

Who is this?

Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:34:14 +0000

Another thread about VNT's and possibly injectors

Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:40:49 +0000

Hi there,

first of all I would like to say I don't own a merc, so if I'm not allowed to post on here about my peugeot then I shall stop doing so,

there reason I'm here is that I've seen all sorts of systems to control a VNT mechanically, and as my car doesn't have an ECU this seems just the job,
My car is a Peugeot 306 1.9 turbo diesel (XUD9 engine) and it has the Bosch VE fuel pump on it, (it's an IDI engine with 2v per cylinder single overhead cam and has a gt15 turbo with 90hp and 150lbft)

so which is a good way of controlling a VNT on this?
I am looking for more power/torque but the reason for following this root rather than just slapping a big turbo on it, is to make it still have good low end power when driving at normal speeds,

also I haven't found any uprated injectors for it ethier and wanted to know about possibly making some up,

thank you in advance

Brett

Pulling (trailer) with my 300SD

Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:09:04 +0000

So i am planning to buy a jet ski, and i need to figure out if my 300SD has any capablilty to install a Class 1 hitch and if its able to pull a jet ski on road and on a 20* (idk whats the exect grade) Grade hill (boat loading zone)

stan's 1980 300TD

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:19:43 +0000

The car that never runs for more than 24 hours without a breakdown! I hope I'm just working out the bugs. This thing was very neglected by the previous owner.

this thread will be my journal on how to get this car beautiful happy and reliable, and for me to ask questions that hopefully people can help with.

current issues:

cooling system woes - gauge unreliable, reads 60* while driving around. now it's been overheating. coolant looked like dark tea, very rusty in the sytem. i suspect this is either the root, or part of the problem.

suspension fuckery - right front strut leaking, needs replacement. bushings noisy, SLS is sitting at the bottom of its range and i'm not sure if its busted because teh fluid reservoir is empty.

another crazy thing is i get speed wobbles like how you get tank slappers on a bike. when driving down the road, if i hit a crack or a pothole, the wheels get thrown into massive vibrations back and forth, and i have to fight with it to keep from swerving until it goes away. i checked and everything is attached. not sure wtf is up. going to try replacing steering damper.

climate control is the OLD OLD style, and system was never converted to R134. i'm torn on what to do there - pay out the ass for R12, or convert the system. the blower only turns on for defrost, nothing else. i think the climate control unit is probably beat, but cant find anything about the old style ones online anywhere.

rear window regulators are tired. they work, but they are clunky.

nothing holds the rear hatch up, not sure how to go about fixing that one.

glow plug light is flashing, presumably 1 or more are shot.

list of parts to be bought (when i have the money):

glow plugs
radiator cap
upper rad hose
lower rad hose
hood pad
alternator
heavy duty front struts
front suspension bushings
"cigar" return line
rubber fuel lines

list of tasks to be done as of right now:
-citrus flush the cooling system
-top off the SLS system, hopefully it starts working again
-front suspension rebuild/replace
-replace misc. rubber hoses
-replace glow plugs
-swap out shitty front passenger seat for nice one (have that already)
-replace steering damper
-swap out skinny stock steering wheel for the fat nice one from blue thunder

Freeside

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:41:43 +0000

http://blog.freesideatlanta.org/2010/08/...s-101.html

I am going to this tonight. They also have a welding class. How cool is that. Check out the rest of the website, they do cool shit.