STD Tuning Engine New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D

New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D

New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D

 
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Rudolf_Diesel
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579
11-18-2009, 09:31 PM #1
Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

   

   

   

   
This post was last modified: 12-02-2009, 10:09 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
11-18-2009, 09:31 PM #1

Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

   

   

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
11-18-2009, 10:24 PM #2
supercharger?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-18-2009, 10:24 PM #2

supercharger?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
11-18-2009, 10:43 PM #3
Dodgy I'm not tellin'...yet

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
11-18-2009, 10:43 PM #3

Dodgy I'm not tellin'...yet


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
11-19-2009, 12:21 AM #4
Must be a pulley driving the a new fuel lift pump to feed your engine's thirst for POWER!
This post was last modified: 11-19-2009, 12:21 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
11-19-2009, 12:21 AM #4

Must be a pulley driving the a new fuel lift pump to feed your engine's thirst for POWER!

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
11-30-2009, 08:17 PM #5
Here are a few more pics...

   

   

   

   

   

.pdf
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1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
11-30-2009, 08:17 PM #5

Here are a few more pics...

   

   

   

   

   

.pdf
lightened_crank_hub_2.pdf
Size: 13.68 KB / Downloads: 1,089


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
11-30-2009, 09:08 PM #6
Is it an under drive lightened pulley?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-30-2009, 09:08 PM #6

Is it an under drive lightened pulley?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
11-30-2009, 09:21 PM #7
(11-30-2009, 09:08 PM)willbhere4u Is it an under drive lightened pulley?

It the basis for a serpentine belt drive system, that will pave the way for something really cool....EM9D

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
11-30-2009, 09:21 PM #7

(11-30-2009, 09:08 PM)willbhere4u Is it an under drive lightened pulley?

It the basis for a serpentine belt drive system, that will pave the way for something really cool....EM9D


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

E300TSC
Turbo-Supercharged

321
11-30-2009, 09:53 PM #8
Oh, you are so totally a copy cat! Tongue

[Image: IMG_4146.jpg]

Just kidding of course...
This post was last modified: 12-01-2009, 10:47 AM by E300TSC.
E300TSC
11-30-2009, 09:53 PM #8

Oh, you are so totally a copy cat! Tongue

[Image: IMG_4146.jpg]

Just kidding of course...

lars
Unregistered

39
12-01-2009, 11:27 AM #9
[quote='E300TSC' pid='8390' dateline='1259635986']
Oh, you are so totally a copy cat! Tongue

Heeey mr. tsc. Do you have a link so I can see and read about your superch/turbo concept??Huh

I will at least follow this threadBig Grin
lars
12-01-2009, 11:27 AM #9

[quote='E300TSC' pid='8390' dateline='1259635986']
Oh, you are so totally a copy cat! Tongue

Heeey mr. tsc. Do you have a link so I can see and read about your superch/turbo concept??Huh

I will at least follow this threadBig Grin

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-01-2009, 02:24 PM #10
I just put one of those on my g/friends Miata Jackson racing mp45

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-01-2009, 02:24 PM #10

I just put one of those on my g/friends Miata Jackson racing mp45


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
12-02-2009, 10:06 PM #11
More progress pics - trying to lose weight on this assembly, right now I am 2 lbs. heavier than stock, I am working on it though, every ounce counts!

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   
This post was last modified: 12-02-2009, 10:08 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-02-2009, 10:06 PM #11

More progress pics - trying to lose weight on this assembly, right now I am 2 lbs. heavier than stock, I am working on it though, every ounce counts!

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
12-14-2009, 09:06 PM #12
Couple of more pics on progress...

   

   

I went to a machine shop and had a chat with the guys there (they also race alcohol funny cars) and they felt the pulley was as light as it could be and no further machining needed.

I had a local welder TIG weld it for me, $75.00, it was worth it. My hands are not as steady as I would like for TIG.
   
Prepping case for modification to outlet
   
Closer view
   
In process of machining
   
Inlet before
   
Inlet after
This post was last modified: 12-14-2009, 09:47 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-14-2009, 09:06 PM #12

Couple of more pics on progress...

   

   

I went to a machine shop and had a chat with the guys there (they also race alcohol funny cars) and they felt the pulley was as light as it could be and no further machining needed.

I had a local welder TIG weld it for me, $75.00, it was worth it. My hands are not as steady as I would like for TIG.


   
Prepping case for modification to outlet
   
Closer view
   
In process of machining
   
Inlet before
   
Inlet after


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-14-2009, 10:32 PM #13
very cool!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-14-2009, 10:32 PM #13

very cool!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
12-16-2009, 09:19 PM #14
Does anyone in Southern California have an extra long block I could borrow for mock up, does not have to be in running condition. I could trade some fabrication work for your troubles.
This post was last modified: 12-16-2009, 09:20 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-16-2009, 09:19 PM #14

Does anyone in Southern California have an extra long block I could borrow for mock up, does not have to be in running condition. I could trade some fabrication work for your troubles.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
12-20-2009, 06:27 PM #15
Here are some more pics of progress.

   
Original Ford power steering pump pulley hub bored out and Mercedes pulley hub machined to fit, pressed and welded.
   
Another view of pulley
   
Pulley installed on pump
   
Another view
   
additional view
   
Power steering pump bracket from V-8
   
Another view of V-8 bracket with mounting plate
pics of GT35 turbo

   

   

   

   

   

   

   
A/A IC that will be added to design (in addition to A/W IC)
Throttle body from BMW - it will serve as bypass valve for turbo.

   

   
This post was last modified: 12-20-2009, 06:35 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-20-2009, 06:27 PM #15

Here are some more pics of progress.

   
Original Ford power steering pump pulley hub bored out and Mercedes pulley hub machined to fit, pressed and welded.
   
Another view of pulley
   
Pulley installed on pump
   
Another view
   
additional view
   
Power steering pump bracket from V-8
   
Another view of V-8 bracket with mounting plate


pics of GT35 turbo

   

   

   

   

   

   

   
A/A IC that will be added to design (in addition to A/W IC)
Throttle body from BMW - it will serve as bypass valve for turbo.

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
12-20-2009, 06:54 PM #16
Is that a garrett turbo?
It looks like a T3/T4 clone, quite different to the garrett GT35 series.
Kiwibacon
12-20-2009, 06:54 PM #16

Is that a garrett turbo?
It looks like a T3/T4 clone, quite different to the garrett GT35 series.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
12-20-2009, 07:53 PM #17
It is not a Garret, I don't want to spend the money on one. It is supposed to be a GT35 with a T3 inlet. The reason I bought it was because the waste gate and exhaust matched my old one. The place I bought it from had it custom made.
This post was last modified: 12-21-2009, 11:31 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-20-2009, 07:53 PM #17

It is not a Garret, I don't want to spend the money on one. It is supposed to be a GT35 with a T3 inlet. The reason I bought it was because the waste gate and exhaust matched my old one. The place I bought it from had it custom made.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
12-20-2009, 11:49 PM #18
(12-20-2009, 07:53 PM)Rudolf_Diesel It is not a Garret, I don't want to spend the money on one. It is supposed to be a GT35 with a T3 inlet. The reason I bought it was because the waste gate and exhaust matche dmy old one. The place I bought it from had it custom made.

That's where I get really confused. The GT35 is a garrett turbo family, but these other companies use the same name for T3/T4 based turbos which are no relation.
Are they trading on confusion to increase sales?
Kiwibacon
12-20-2009, 11:49 PM #18

(12-20-2009, 07:53 PM)Rudolf_Diesel It is not a Garret, I don't want to spend the money on one. It is supposed to be a GT35 with a T3 inlet. The reason I bought it was because the waste gate and exhaust matche dmy old one. The place I bought it from had it custom made.

That's where I get really confused. The GT35 is a garrett turbo family, but these other companies use the same name for T3/T4 based turbos which are no relation.
Are they trading on confusion to increase sales?

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-21-2009, 11:30 AM #19
I understand GT is a Garret trademark - you use a cotton swab, ubiquitously known as a Q-tip no matter who made it; A facial tissue, Kleenex, etc.

As long as the dimensions remain the same then it should function the same. If it doesn't work as the numbers say it should then my bad. I didn't buy it under the guise it was a Garret or even a perfect clone of one. It simply fit the need I have without completely reengineering the current design.

If I had the money, I would buy a Garret, but budget doesn't allow. As far as waiting until I have the funds, not what I want to do. I don't see anything wrong with using a clone, if you don't want to use one, that is your option.

As far as I can see the clones are made just as well as the real thing, fit and finish is spot on. They are made with state of the art equipment, not in some hut.

This thread is for progress on the current project, no offense, but I never intended for input as to how to build it. There are is more than one way to skin a cat.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-21-2009, 11:30 AM #19

I understand GT is a Garret trademark - you use a cotton swab, ubiquitously known as a Q-tip no matter who made it; A facial tissue, Kleenex, etc.

As long as the dimensions remain the same then it should function the same. If it doesn't work as the numbers say it should then my bad. I didn't buy it under the guise it was a Garret or even a perfect clone of one. It simply fit the need I have without completely reengineering the current design.

If I had the money, I would buy a Garret, but budget doesn't allow. As far as waiting until I have the funds, not what I want to do. I don't see anything wrong with using a clone, if you don't want to use one, that is your option.

As far as I can see the clones are made just as well as the real thing, fit and finish is spot on. They are made with state of the art equipment, not in some hut.

This thread is for progress on the current project, no offense, but I never intended for input as to how to build it. There are is more than one way to skin a cat.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-21-2009, 12:47 PM #20
(12-21-2009, 11:30 AM)Rudolf_Diesel This thread is for progress on the current project, no offense, but I never intended for input as to how to build it. There are is more than one way to skin a cat.

I'm definitely not a fan of Chinese turbo clones, but keep up the good work.
ForcedInduction
12-21-2009, 12:47 PM #20

(12-21-2009, 11:30 AM)Rudolf_Diesel This thread is for progress on the current project, no offense, but I never intended for input as to how to build it. There are is more than one way to skin a cat.

I'm definitely not a fan of Chinese turbo clones, but keep up the good work.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-21-2009, 02:23 PM #21
whats you plan on fueling with all of this air???

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-21-2009, 02:23 PM #21

whats you plan on fueling with all of this air???


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

GREASY_BEAST
Holset

411
12-21-2009, 06:08 PM #22
(12-21-2009, 02:23 PM)willbhere4u whats you plan on fueling with all of this air???

That's been my question too for as long as I've been watching this.
GREASY_BEAST
12-21-2009, 06:08 PM #22

(12-21-2009, 02:23 PM)willbhere4u whats you plan on fueling with all of this air???

That's been my question too for as long as I've been watching this.

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
12-21-2009, 06:48 PM #23
(12-21-2009, 11:30 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I understand GT is a Garret trademark - you use a cotton swab, ubiquitously known as a Q-tip no matter who made it; A facial tissue, Kleenex, etc.

As long as the dimensions remain the same then it should function the same. If it doesn't work as the numbers say it should then my bad. I didn't buy it under the guise it was a Garret or even a perfect clone of one. It simply fit the need I have without completely reengineering the current design.

That was why I asked. The turbo you show has no parts in common with a garrett GT35. The new turbos are built like a T25/T28, very different to the T3 style used by the aftermarket.

But back to the build, what's the fuel target and what is the boost target? How do you plan to control the boost?
Kiwibacon
12-21-2009, 06:48 PM #23

(12-21-2009, 11:30 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I understand GT is a Garret trademark - you use a cotton swab, ubiquitously known as a Q-tip no matter who made it; A facial tissue, Kleenex, etc.

As long as the dimensions remain the same then it should function the same. If it doesn't work as the numbers say it should then my bad. I didn't buy it under the guise it was a Garret or even a perfect clone of one. It simply fit the need I have without completely reengineering the current design.

That was why I asked. The turbo you show has no parts in common with a garrett GT35. The new turbos are built like a T25/T28, very different to the T3 style used by the aftermarket.

But back to the build, what's the fuel target and what is the boost target? How do you plan to control the boost?

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-21-2009, 09:48 PM #24
As far as fuel, Tomnik is going to handle that. I will be getting some 7.5 elements from him and have his bud install them for me. The M90 will handle boost until 10 psi, then the bypass for turbo will open and it will boost up to 20 psi.

Boost on S/C will be bypass valve - Boost on turbo via waste gate.

I just got back from Bakersfield - 250 mile round trip and picked up an engine from Delivery valve - very nice guy.
This post was last modified: 12-21-2009, 09:50 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-21-2009, 09:48 PM #24

As far as fuel, Tomnik is going to handle that. I will be getting some 7.5 elements from him and have his bud install them for me. The M90 will handle boost until 10 psi, then the bypass for turbo will open and it will boost up to 20 psi.

Boost on S/C will be bypass valve - Boost on turbo via waste gate.

I just got back from Bakersfield - 250 mile round trip and picked up an engine from Delivery valve - very nice guy.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-21-2009, 11:54 PM #25
I would just route the turbo in to the supercharger and let it rip!!!! lol compound 50psi all the way

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-21-2009, 11:54 PM #25

I would just route the turbo in to the supercharger and let it rip!!!! lol compound 50psi all the way


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

kamel
Naturally-aspirated SUCKS

176
12-22-2009, 02:29 AM #26
This is exciting as hell! However, I would have welded it for $50. haha

'78 300D, OM617.912: 4spd manual, TB03 at 10PSI, 26*BTDC, DV's turned, HVAC, emissions system removed, e-fan, short ram, 3" downpipe to straight exhaust, W126 Bendix brakes, MR2 Spyder seats. 2890lbs
kamel
12-22-2009, 02:29 AM #26

This is exciting as hell! However, I would have welded it for $50. haha


'78 300D, OM617.912: 4spd manual, TB03 at 10PSI, 26*BTDC, DV's turned, HVAC, emissions system removed, e-fan, short ram, 3" downpipe to straight exhaust, W126 Bendix brakes, MR2 Spyder seats. 2890lbs

GREASY_BEAST
Holset

411
12-22-2009, 10:36 AM #27
(12-21-2009, 09:48 PM)Rudolf_Diesel As far as fuel, Tomnik is going to handle that. I will be getting some 7.5 elements from him and have his bud install them for me. The M90 will handle boost until 10 psi, then the bypass for turbo will open and it will boost up to 20 psi.

Boost on S/C will be bypass valve - Boost on turbo via waste gate.

Cool, sounds like the way to go! Can't wait to see it!
GREASY_BEAST
12-22-2009, 10:36 AM #27

(12-21-2009, 09:48 PM)Rudolf_Diesel As far as fuel, Tomnik is going to handle that. I will be getting some 7.5 elements from him and have his bud install them for me. The M90 will handle boost until 10 psi, then the bypass for turbo will open and it will boost up to 20 psi.

Boost on S/C will be bypass valve - Boost on turbo via waste gate.

Cool, sounds like the way to go! Can't wait to see it!

HoleshotHolset
Holset

379
12-22-2009, 10:50 AM #28
(12-21-2009, 12:47 PM)ForcedInduction I'm definitely not a fan of Chinese turbo clones, but keep up the good work.

Me neither - but I've never heard from anyone that they grenade any easier than a higher dollar turbo.

Awesome machining skills, BTW. I love stuff like this - a LOT.

Beers,

Matt

'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
12-22-2009, 10:50 AM #28

(12-21-2009, 12:47 PM)ForcedInduction I'm definitely not a fan of Chinese turbo clones, but keep up the good work.

Me neither - but I've never heard from anyone that they grenade any easier than a higher dollar turbo.

Awesome machining skills, BTW. I love stuff like this - a LOT.

Beers,

Matt


'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-23-2009, 09:23 AM #29
Quote:Awesome machining skills, BTW.

ThanksBlush

Here are a couple of pics of belt system:

   

   

   

   

   

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-23-2009, 09:23 AM #29

Quote:Awesome machining skills, BTW.

ThanksBlush

Here are a couple of pics of belt system:

   

   

   

   

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-23-2009, 09:30 AM #30
Very nice!

That water pump is a little bit overdriven isn't it? Even the updated smaller pulley is only 0.9:1.
ForcedInduction
12-23-2009, 09:30 AM #30

Very nice!

That water pump is a little bit overdriven isn't it? Even the updated smaller pulley is only 0.9:1.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-23-2009, 10:05 AM #31
(12-23-2009, 09:30 AM)ForcedInduction Very nice!

That water pump is a little bit overdriven isn't it? Even the updated smaller pulley is only 0.9:1.

It is only 15% overdriven according to my calculations, but I could be wrong. I was wrong once, but I was mistakenBig Grin

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-23-2009, 10:05 AM #31

(12-23-2009, 09:30 AM)ForcedInduction Very nice!

That water pump is a little bit overdriven isn't it? Even the updated smaller pulley is only 0.9:1.

It is only 15% overdriven according to my calculations, but I could be wrong. I was wrong once, but I was mistakenBig Grin


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
12-23-2009, 10:30 AM #32
I like it. Beautiful job so far!

[Image: attachment.php?aid=1859]

Looks like the vacuum pump indeed is getting in the way. Are you going to remove it?

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
12-23-2009, 10:30 AM #32

I like it. Beautiful job so far!

[Image: attachment.php?aid=1859]

Looks like the vacuum pump indeed is getting in the way. Are you going to remove it?


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

HoleshotHolset
Holset

379
12-23-2009, 02:44 PM #33
(11-18-2009, 09:31 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

I forgot to ask:
What kind of material is that stuff?

Looks like terra cotta. Smile

Beers,

Matt

'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
12-23-2009, 02:44 PM #33

(11-18-2009, 09:31 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

I forgot to ask:
What kind of material is that stuff?

Looks like terra cotta. Smile

Beers,

Matt


'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-23-2009, 03:44 PM #34
(12-23-2009, 02:44 PM)HoleshotHolset
(11-18-2009, 09:31 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

I forgot to ask:
What kind of material is that stuff?

Looks like terra cotta. Smile

Beers,

Matt

It's a machinable plastic, almost like precast bondo. It used to make sample tooling as well plug assist tooling (used to help push material into mold). You can also use it as a pattern when you want to have something cast.

It is very easy to work with, if you make a mistake just super glue a piece on and start over.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-23-2009, 03:44 PM #34

(12-23-2009, 02:44 PM)HoleshotHolset
(11-18-2009, 09:31 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Here is a little taste of what I am up to now...

I forgot to ask:
What kind of material is that stuff?

Looks like terra cotta. Smile

Beers,

Matt

It's a machinable plastic, almost like precast bondo. It used to make sample tooling as well plug assist tooling (used to help push material into mold). You can also use it as a pattern when you want to have something cast.

It is very easy to work with, if you make a mistake just super glue a piece on and start over.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

HoleshotHolset
Holset

379
12-23-2009, 03:56 PM #35
OK - that makes more sense than terra cotta. Smile

What is the trade name for that stuff (so that I may Google up some info on it...)?

Beers,

Matt

'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
12-23-2009, 03:56 PM #35

OK - that makes more sense than terra cotta. Smile

What is the trade name for that stuff (so that I may Google up some info on it...)?

Beers,

Matt


'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-23-2009, 08:40 PM #36
looking good take some video of it runing

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-23-2009, 08:40 PM #36

looking good take some video of it runing


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-30-2009, 10:37 PM #37
I have been making some progress, but a few revisions as I go along.

After measuring, it turns out the power steering pump is too big. I decided to use one with a remote reservoir from a Ford Taurus. It has a 6-rib pulley, but I found a brand new 8-rib and slightly larger for $18.00 - brand new (Ford trucks, vans and Navigators use an 8-rib).

I have been working on the power steering pump bracket and belt configuration this past week. My goal is to have at least a 33% belt wrap on the pulleys. I have looked at a few in the wrecking yards and some only seem to have 20-25% on the power steering - I think I will be fine. I am still fine tuning the placement of the tensioner and idler pulleys.

I use a cardboard for a rough template and once I have the hole locations I use a CAD system to draw the brackets and tweak for form and function. I can cut them out myself with the plasma cutter, but I am getting a price for a local steel supply to cut them for me. All I have to do is give them a .dxf file.

The next step is to work on the supports for the tail end of the SC, once I have this complete I will work on the SC plumbing...

Some progress pics:
   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   
.
   

   
(12-23-2009, 03:56 PM)HoleshotHolset OK - that makes more sense than terra cotta. Smile

What is the trade name for that stuff (so that I may Google up some info on it...)?

Beers,

Matt

I am still trying to find out the trade name, but if you search for machinable resin or plug assist material on google you can get in the ball park.
I am also going to use a radiator from a Yamaha YZ450 dirt bike for the A/W IC. It is a little smaller than my current one, but I it has a fan and and it should be fine. This will provide room for the A/A IC that will mount behind the bumper.

Part of the deal for letting me borrow the motor is to fab an intake for Deliveryvalve and I am giving him my old radiator.
This post was last modified: 12-30-2009, 10:53 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-30-2009, 10:37 PM #37

I have been making some progress, but a few revisions as I go along.

After measuring, it turns out the power steering pump is too big. I decided to use one with a remote reservoir from a Ford Taurus. It has a 6-rib pulley, but I found a brand new 8-rib and slightly larger for $18.00 - brand new (Ford trucks, vans and Navigators use an 8-rib).

I have been working on the power steering pump bracket and belt configuration this past week. My goal is to have at least a 33% belt wrap on the pulleys. I have looked at a few in the wrecking yards and some only seem to have 20-25% on the power steering - I think I will be fine. I am still fine tuning the placement of the tensioner and idler pulleys.

I use a cardboard for a rough template and once I have the hole locations I use a CAD system to draw the brackets and tweak for form and function. I can cut them out myself with the plasma cutter, but I am getting a price for a local steel supply to cut them for me. All I have to do is give them a .dxf file.

The next step is to work on the supports for the tail end of the SC, once I have this complete I will work on the SC plumbing...

Some progress pics:
   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


.
   

   
(12-23-2009, 03:56 PM)HoleshotHolset OK - that makes more sense than terra cotta. Smile

What is the trade name for that stuff (so that I may Google up some info on it...)?

Beers,

Matt

I am still trying to find out the trade name, but if you search for machinable resin or plug assist material on google you can get in the ball park.
I am also going to use a radiator from a Yamaha YZ450 dirt bike for the A/W IC. It is a little smaller than my current one, but I it has a fan and and it should be fine. This will provide room for the A/A IC that will mount behind the bumper.

Part of the deal for letting me borrow the motor is to fab an intake for Deliveryvalve and I am giving him my old radiator.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

oel_brenner
GT2256V

146
12-31-2009, 10:37 AM #38
I count 4 (maybe 5) tensioners... wow
that belt must be 30 ft long.

looks really cool though!

keep it up !

cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel

trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel

boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
oel_brenner
12-31-2009, 10:37 AM #38

I count 4 (maybe 5) tensioners... wow
that belt must be 30 ft long.

looks really cool though!

keep it up !


cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel

trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel

boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
12-31-2009, 11:32 AM #39
(12-31-2009, 10:37 AM)oel_brenner I count 4 (maybe 5) tensioners... wow
that belt must be 30 ft long.

looks really cool though!

keep it up !

I was inspired by this:

   

It actually has 3 idlers and one tensioner on the top near the center line of the engine (it looks like two idlers)

The belt is 90" long - it is the OEM belt for a 1993 Ford Thunderbird S/C. All donor parts thus far are from Ford (a little biased)That will make it easy to find replacement parts as time goes on.

I also decided to s-can the OEM style A/C compressor and go with one from a T-bird S/C. That will entail custom hoses but The Hose Man should be able to help me out and also with the power steering lines as well.

I will be very close to the body on the power steering pulley, I may have to do some surgery and give myself some clearance if it is too tight.

I am considering using a different oil cooler so I can have some clearance for the intake tubing from IC to SC. This will also require using a smaller condenser, but I have a buddy that does A/C work and he can hook me up with all the goodies I need.
This post was last modified: 12-31-2009, 11:35 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-31-2009, 11:32 AM #39

(12-31-2009, 10:37 AM)oel_brenner I count 4 (maybe 5) tensioners... wow
that belt must be 30 ft long.

looks really cool though!

keep it up !

I was inspired by this:

   

It actually has 3 idlers and one tensioner on the top near the center line of the engine (it looks like two idlers)

The belt is 90" long - it is the OEM belt for a 1993 Ford Thunderbird S/C. All donor parts thus far are from Ford (a little biased)That will make it easy to find replacement parts as time goes on.

I also decided to s-can the OEM style A/C compressor and go with one from a T-bird S/C. That will entail custom hoses but The Hose Man should be able to help me out and also with the power steering lines as well.

I will be very close to the body on the power steering pulley, I may have to do some surgery and give myself some clearance if it is too tight.

I am considering using a different oil cooler so I can have some clearance for the intake tubing from IC to SC. This will also require using a smaller condenser, but I have a buddy that does A/C work and he can hook me up with all the goodies I need.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

bmwpowere36m3
K26-2

29
12-31-2009, 01:37 PM #40
^^^ Nice, I'd love a BMW S52 w/ an EuroSport Twin Screw. That setup just has one additional idler and the TS pulley of course.

'80 MB 300CD, "Beauty"

&

'98 BMW M3, The BEAST
bmwpowere36m3
12-31-2009, 01:37 PM #40

^^^ Nice, I'd love a BMW S52 w/ an EuroSport Twin Screw. That setup just has one additional idler and the TS pulley of course.


'80 MB 300CD, "Beauty"

&

'98 BMW M3, The BEAST

HoleshotHolset
Holset

379
12-31-2009, 02:34 PM #41
(12-30-2009, 10:37 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am still trying to find out the trade name, but if you search for machinable resin or plug assist material on google you can get in the ball park.

OK - thanks for the info. I found some info on a material called Eccolite Ultra - which sounds kinda like what you're using there.
This post was last modified: 12-31-2009, 02:35 PM by HoleshotHolset.

'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
12-31-2009, 02:34 PM #41

(12-30-2009, 10:37 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am still trying to find out the trade name, but if you search for machinable resin or plug assist material on google you can get in the ball park.

OK - thanks for the info. I found some info on a material called Eccolite Ultra - which sounds kinda like what you're using there.


'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-31-2009, 02:57 PM #42
superchargers all the way I love the sound of a twin screw I'v got an Eaton mp45 with by pass valve on my 94 miata

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-31-2009, 02:57 PM #42

superchargers all the way I love the sound of a twin screw I'v got an Eaton mp45 with by pass valve on my 94 miata


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
01-04-2010, 09:01 PM #43
So something like this minus the DrosselKlappe (I assume throttle body)

[Image: golfgt4.jpg]

stolen from vw vortex

Or maybe not a compound setup even though it has a bypass I don't know what the benefits would be. I assume the compound at the low end would kick in the turbo ealier as well as providing some good low end boost while not delievering overheated air at higher pressures.
Kozuka
01-04-2010, 09:01 PM #43

So something like this minus the DrosselKlappe (I assume throttle body)

[Image: golfgt4.jpg]

stolen from vw vortex

Or maybe not a compound setup even though it has a bypass I don't know what the benefits would be. I assume the compound at the low end would kick in the turbo ealier as well as providing some good low end boost while not delievering overheated air at higher pressures.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-04-2010, 09:14 PM #44
It can work either way; super-turbo, turbo-super.
Though with the supercharger first, it can actually be a restriction as the turbo spools up. They only pump a fixed volume of air per rotation and as the turbo increases air consumption the turbo can pull a vacuum if the bypass opening timing isn't right. Open too soon and the turbo takes longer to light up, too late and the engine chokes.

With the supercharger after the turbo, bypass timing isn't as critical. It will just work as a really inefficient compound system (depending on the supercharger's set pressure ratio). Open too soon and the same as above, too late and you get a lot of hot boost.

Either way, its a hell of a lot better than either one alone. Big Grin
This post was last modified: 01-04-2010, 09:15 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
01-04-2010, 09:14 PM #44

It can work either way; super-turbo, turbo-super.
Though with the supercharger first, it can actually be a restriction as the turbo spools up. They only pump a fixed volume of air per rotation and as the turbo increases air consumption the turbo can pull a vacuum if the bypass opening timing isn't right. Open too soon and the turbo takes longer to light up, too late and the engine chokes.

With the supercharger after the turbo, bypass timing isn't as critical. It will just work as a really inefficient compound system (depending on the supercharger's set pressure ratio). Open too soon and the same as above, too late and you get a lot of hot boost.

Either way, its a hell of a lot better than either one alone. Big Grin

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
01-04-2010, 09:37 PM #45
(01-04-2010, 09:14 PM)ForcedInduction It can work either way; super-turbo, turbo-super.
Though with the supercharger first, it can actually be a restriction as the turbo spools up. They only pump a fixed volume of air per rotation and as the turbo increases air consumption the turbo can pull a vacuum if the bypass opening timing isn't right. Open too soon and the turbo takes longer to light up, too late and the engine chokes.

With the supercharger after the turbo, bypass timing isn't as critical. It will just work as a really inefficient compound system (depending on the supercharger's set pressure ratio). Open too soon and the same as above, too late and you get a lot of hot boost.

Either way, its a hell of a lot better than either one alone. Big Grin

Couldn't you also run them into a y pipe into an intercooler and have an electromagnetic clutch release the supercharger at whatever specified psi or not at all also?
This post was last modified: 01-04-2010, 09:39 PM by Kozuka.
Kozuka
01-04-2010, 09:37 PM #45

(01-04-2010, 09:14 PM)ForcedInduction It can work either way; super-turbo, turbo-super.
Though with the supercharger first, it can actually be a restriction as the turbo spools up. They only pump a fixed volume of air per rotation and as the turbo increases air consumption the turbo can pull a vacuum if the bypass opening timing isn't right. Open too soon and the turbo takes longer to light up, too late and the engine chokes.

With the supercharger after the turbo, bypass timing isn't as critical. It will just work as a really inefficient compound system (depending on the supercharger's set pressure ratio). Open too soon and the same as above, too late and you get a lot of hot boost.

Either way, its a hell of a lot better than either one alone. Big Grin

Couldn't you also run them into a y pipe into an intercooler and have an electromagnetic clutch release the supercharger at whatever specified psi or not at all also?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-04-2010, 09:50 PM #46
No. The supercharger will be driven backwards by the air pressure.
ForcedInduction
01-04-2010, 09:50 PM #46

No. The supercharger will be driven backwards by the air pressure.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
01-04-2010, 11:42 PM #47
I saw the VW system, but I don't know if it is feasable to run a clutch on this S/C. It is a work in progress and may change as it progresses. It may never be a drag car, although I would like a set of gears to pull off the line though, but it will be cool as hell. I can't wait to lift the hood when I go to another Benz get together. The purists just shook their heads that last time when I had the A/W IC.

I am basically going to copy the green wagen. It will have a 80mm (guessing) throttle body that will open and essentially bypass the supercharger and have the turbo feed the engine directly.

I wanted to use the OEM bypass on the S/C to open at a set pressure, but due to a clearance issue I will incorporate (Forced, look away) a bypass valve / BOV that will open and dump the output from S/C to input of S/C.

I have pretty much dialed in the bracketry and waiting on a quote from the metal supplier to plasma cut the brackets. I can do it myself, but it is just easier to farm this portion out. By the time I buy the material and cut and grind it will be done for a few bucks more and ready to weld.

I guess I should finish my DIY torchmate kit that I reverse engineeredBig Grin

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
01-04-2010, 11:42 PM #47

I saw the VW system, but I don't know if it is feasable to run a clutch on this S/C. It is a work in progress and may change as it progresses. It may never be a drag car, although I would like a set of gears to pull off the line though, but it will be cool as hell. I can't wait to lift the hood when I go to another Benz get together. The purists just shook their heads that last time when I had the A/W IC.

I am basically going to copy the green wagen. It will have a 80mm (guessing) throttle body that will open and essentially bypass the supercharger and have the turbo feed the engine directly.

I wanted to use the OEM bypass on the S/C to open at a set pressure, but due to a clearance issue I will incorporate (Forced, look away) a bypass valve / BOV that will open and dump the output from S/C to input of S/C.

I have pretty much dialed in the bracketry and waiting on a quote from the metal supplier to plasma cut the brackets. I can do it myself, but it is just easier to farm this portion out. By the time I buy the material and cut and grind it will be done for a few bucks more and ready to weld.

I guess I should finish my DIY torchmate kit that I reverse engineeredBig Grin


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-05-2010, 12:19 AM #48
(01-04-2010, 11:42 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am basically going to copy the green wagen.

Just try to avoid its convoluted tube layout. Wink
There are so many points the wagon's system could have been simplified/improved....
ForcedInduction
01-05-2010, 12:19 AM #48

(01-04-2010, 11:42 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am basically going to copy the green wagen.

Just try to avoid its convoluted tube layout. Wink
There are so many points the wagon's system could have been simplified/improved....

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
01-06-2010, 10:08 AM #49
(01-05-2010, 12:19 AM)ForcedInduction
(01-04-2010, 11:42 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am basically going to copy the green wagen.

Just try to avoid its convoluted tube layout. Wink
There are so many points the wagon's system could have been simplified/improved....

How would you pipe it? I am still tossing a few ideas around...Keep it Simple, but cool.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
01-06-2010, 10:08 AM #49

(01-05-2010, 12:19 AM)ForcedInduction
(01-04-2010, 11:42 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I am basically going to copy the green wagen.

Just try to avoid its convoluted tube layout. Wink
There are so many points the wagon's system could have been simplified/improved....

How would you pipe it? I am still tossing a few ideas around...Keep it Simple, but cool.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-06-2010, 10:25 AM #50
(01-06-2010, 10:08 AM)Rudolf_Diesel How would you pipe it? I am still tossing a few ideas around...Keep it Simple, but cool.

Here is now they had it set up.
   

For some reason, they decided to have the smaller diameter bypass tube run across the top of the intercooler. I marked it to show a much more simple path, an 8" long bypass with the butterfly in the middle.
   
   

That would reduce plumbing, allow the turbo to blow through a larger diameter tube and allow either the intercooler to be moved up higher (and have less air blocked by the bumper) or an even bigger intercooler to be used.
ForcedInduction
01-06-2010, 10:25 AM #50

(01-06-2010, 10:08 AM)Rudolf_Diesel How would you pipe it? I am still tossing a few ideas around...Keep it Simple, but cool.

Here is now they had it set up.
   

For some reason, they decided to have the smaller diameter bypass tube run across the top of the intercooler. I marked it to show a much more simple path, an 8" long bypass with the butterfly in the middle.
   
   

That would reduce plumbing, allow the turbo to blow through a larger diameter tube and allow either the intercooler to be moved up higher (and have less air blocked by the bumper) or an even bigger intercooler to be used.

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