STD Tuning Engine OM648 injectors

OM648 injectors

OM648 injectors

 
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markland556
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07-09-2019, 07:56 PM #1
Ive got a project in the works right now. Going to be dropping an OM648 into an 06 E350 Wagon. The swap should go easily enough, I just need to get the engine sorted out first. The donor car is an 06 E320cdi with a Brabus engine cover, so im assuming someone had a tune flashed to it. I robbed the injectors out for another CDI i have and now im trying to figure out what to do with this engine. My plan is to have the tune pulled and flashed to the other car for some cheap horsepower.
As for this current car ive come across people mentioning using C30 injectors. Will these work without the use of an E400cdi High pressure pump? I have no problem buying the pump as well if needed, but the tuning will be a whole new thing to address.
Id really appreciate any insight into what the best option would be, the OM648 injectors are over $300 a piece. I figure if im going to spend some money, might as well get some more power out of it.
markland556
07-09-2019, 07:56 PM #1

Ive got a project in the works right now. Going to be dropping an OM648 into an 06 E350 Wagon. The swap should go easily enough, I just need to get the engine sorted out first. The donor car is an 06 E320cdi with a Brabus engine cover, so im assuming someone had a tune flashed to it. I robbed the injectors out for another CDI i have and now im trying to figure out what to do with this engine. My plan is to have the tune pulled and flashed to the other car for some cheap horsepower.
As for this current car ive come across people mentioning using C30 injectors. Will these work without the use of an E400cdi High pressure pump? I have no problem buying the pump as well if needed, but the tuning will be a whole new thing to address.
Id really appreciate any insight into what the best option would be, the OM648 injectors are over $300 a piece. I figure if im going to spend some money, might as well get some more power out of it.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
07-09-2019, 10:09 PM #2
Try the common rail diesel discussion thread.
atypicalguy
07-09-2019, 10:09 PM #2

Try the common rail diesel discussion thread.

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-10-2019, 02:19 AM #3
Hy,
CR system, controll is one thing and i don't mess with it.
The output is another story, there are 2 key parts in it, HP Pump and Nozzle.
Along the manufacturing years this CDI engines got diff pumps as u have CP1's and CP3's diff between one and the other is almost at arquitecture style for a same output pump... CC min @1000bar
Nozles are same , but they are rated for CC second @1000 bar
Then injector holders are of solenoid type... i guess u can't find much diferences there.
What u search is basic diesel tune , how many CC can u inject over time with this and that setting.
Anyway C30 injectors are about inject about 20% more, than a conventional A611 nozzle.
Pump's the one with more output is the CP3'110 found in C30 and OM 629.
The fins and suedes were working on injector nozzles of equivalence to 200cc and lower, last year . Try them around.
Regards

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barrote
07-10-2019, 02:19 AM #3

Hy,
CR system, controll is one thing and i don't mess with it.
The output is another story, there are 2 key parts in it, HP Pump and Nozzle.
Along the manufacturing years this CDI engines got diff pumps as u have CP1's and CP3's diff between one and the other is almost at arquitecture style for a same output pump... CC min @1000bar
Nozles are same , but they are rated for CC second @1000 bar
Then injector holders are of solenoid type... i guess u can't find much diferences there.
What u search is basic diesel tune , how many CC can u inject over time with this and that setting.
Anyway C30 injectors are about inject about 20% more, than a conventional A611 nozzle.
Pump's the one with more output is the CP3'110 found in C30 and OM 629.
The fins and suedes were working on injector nozzles of equivalence to 200cc and lower, last year . Try them around.
Regards


FD,
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markland556
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07-11-2019, 10:37 PM #4
Well, what if i were to buy the cheaper C30 injectors and install the A611 nozzle in them? Should be good to go then? Im really not looking to go crazy with power for this car. A simple flashtune will be fine.
markland556
07-11-2019, 10:37 PM #4

Well, what if i were to buy the cheaper C30 injectors and install the A611 nozzle in them? Should be good to go then? Im really not looking to go crazy with power for this car. A simple flashtune will be fine.

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-12-2019, 01:29 AM #5
Its much more cheap, though not many diesel shops can do it correctly.
Including mine.
Basically is to turn one normall A611 into a A612. AMG spec.
Regards.

FD,
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barrote
07-12-2019, 01:29 AM #5

Its much more cheap, though not many diesel shops can do it correctly.
Including mine.
Basically is to turn one normall A611 into a A612. AMG spec.
Regards.


FD,
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markland556
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07-12-2019, 02:55 PM #6
Im probably the only guy to be going the other way around. Trying to step down the fuel output from amg spec back to the stock om648. I think ill buy the C30 injectors, and see how things go. EGR and swirl delete with a bigger intercooler. See where I get and tune from there. I just need to find someone that can do the tuno. Maybe i can log with SDS and do remote tune. Just need to find someone. There is a lot of info on ECUedit.com about the EDC16 controller.
markland556
07-12-2019, 02:55 PM #6

Im probably the only guy to be going the other way around. Trying to step down the fuel output from amg spec back to the stock om648. I think ill buy the C30 injectors, and see how things go. EGR and swirl delete with a bigger intercooler. See where I get and tune from there. I just need to find someone that can do the tuno. Maybe i can log with SDS and do remote tune. Just need to find someone. There is a lot of info on ECUedit.com about the EDC16 controller.

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-17-2019, 02:02 AM #7
I got u all wrong... that way u buy commom A611 injectors... much cheaper though

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barrote
07-17-2019, 02:02 AM #7

I got u all wrong... that way u buy commom A611 injectors... much cheaper though


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