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OM617 nailing after injector service?
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OM617 nailing after injector service?
OM617 turbo. Had some minor nailing and was preparing for a tune, so I decided to do an injector service. Had some slight "pissing" before pop on all five injectors. Brand new Bosch nozzles, all five injectors cleaned and lapped with a perfect, clean pop at 1850-1950 psi. Also reamed the glow plug holes at the same time. Got it all back together, and it runs GREAT. More power, better throttle response, easier starting, BUT even MORE nailing when cold, much louder, but goes away almost entirely when at full operating temperature.

Could it be a delivery valve or something? I'm an accomplished mechanic (I work on piston airplanes for a living), but am still learning about mechanical diesels. Any thoughts?
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04-16-2019, 09:05 PM
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RE: OM617 nailing after injector service?
The new nozzles do need to bed in a wee bit. Give it a few thousand miles and see what it does?

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04-17-2019, 12:07 AM
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RE: OM617 nailing after injector service?
(04-17-2019, 12:07 AM)NZScott Wrote: The new nozzles do need to bed in a wee bit. Give it a few thousand miles and see what it does?

I was kinda thinking that, especially since it gets so much better at operating temps. I've only probably put 40 miles on the nozzles so I'll just keep driving the thing!
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04-17-2019, 06:24 PM
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RE: OM617 nailing after injector service?
(04-16-2019, 09:05 PM)gregman_1 Wrote: OM617 turbo. Had some minor nailing and was preparing for a tune, so I decided to do an injector service. Had some slight "pissing" before pop on all five injectors. Brand new Bosch nozzles, all five injectors cleaned and lapped with a perfect, clean pop at 1850-1950 psi. Also reamed the glow plug holes at the same time. Got it all back together, and it runs GREAT. More power, better throttle response, easier starting, BUT even MORE nailing when cold, much louder, but goes away almost entirely when at full operating temperature.

Could it be a delivery valve or something? I'm an accomplished mechanic (I work on piston airplanes for a living), but am still learning about mechanical diesels. Any thoughts?

Normal behavior of the engine and sounds like you did everything correctly.

Like already said, the nozzles need a few 1000 miles to settle. Very good nozzles like those Bosch (good atomisazion) still can be a little knocky after the settle period when the engine is still cold.
When the engine is warm and the knocking disappears,  you are in the sweet spot.

But as you mentioned the power, response, better starting and less fuel consumption is something you want.

The nailing on a cold engine should also be much less or disappear with e.g. half throttle. If so, that is another sign for everything beeing correct.

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06-26-2019, 12:54 AM
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