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01-21-2020, 02:24 PM #90

(01-20-2020, 03:48 PM)baldur
(01-19-2020, 01:54 PM)starynovy Yeah american, that would be the problem. Everything is backwards retarded back there. Well old 8-bit MSA units and first CR ECU EDC15 were in mm3. Then from 2003 (EDC16, 2009 EDC17, 2017 MD1) onwards they switched to mg. So its traditional yes but not current. If you make that GUI configurable that would be best for everyone. I dont know where your customer base lies but if in europe, everyone who does diesel tuning have experience with BOSCH EMS so this make no sense to them.

The USA is by far my biggest market at the moment, but there are reasons why Bosch (or anyone else) does things the way they do, and when your tuned engine is not Euro emissions compliant no matter how you tune it, then those reasons don't necessarily apply.
For example, the reason why Bosch does not have a table for air temperature compensation on smoke limit is because the fuel limit map is not based on pressure but charge air density, so it has the correction applied before lookup.

In Mercedes smoke limit is always based on speed density (manifold pressure) and always have air temperature correction. Air mass meter is only for EGR control.

Tables from starynovy is common not only for Bosch ECUs. Siemens and denso use similar tables.

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01-21-2020, 02:24 PM #90

(01-20-2020, 03:48 PM)baldur
(01-19-2020, 01:54 PM)starynovy Yeah american, that would be the problem. Everything is backwards retarded back there. Well old 8-bit MSA units and first CR ECU EDC15 were in mm3. Then from 2003 (EDC16, 2009 EDC17, 2017 MD1) onwards they switched to mg. So its traditional yes but not current. If you make that GUI configurable that would be best for everyone. I dont know where your customer base lies but if in europe, everyone who does diesel tuning have experience with BOSCH EMS so this make no sense to them.

The USA is by far my biggest market at the moment, but there are reasons why Bosch (or anyone else) does things the way they do, and when your tuned engine is not Euro emissions compliant no matter how you tune it, then those reasons don't necessarily apply.
For example, the reason why Bosch does not have a table for air temperature compensation on smoke limit is because the fuel limit map is not based on pressure but charge air density, so it has the correction applied before lookup.

In Mercedes smoke limit is always based on speed density (manifold pressure) and always have air temperature correction. Air mass meter is only for EGR control.

Tables from starynovy is common not only for Bosch ECUs. Siemens and denso use similar tables.

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Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-13-2019, 01:50 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by firen456 - 01-14-2019, 02:24 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 01-29-2019, 05:12 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by barrote - 01-14-2019, 03:50 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-29-2019, 12:45 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by AlanMcR - 01-30-2019, 12:04 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by firen456 - 01-30-2019, 02:56 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by barrote - 01-30-2019, 05:17 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-30-2019, 06:25 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-02-2019, 02:05 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-03-2019, 03:02 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-03-2019, 05:23 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 02-03-2019, 08:01 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-04-2019, 12:30 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-04-2019, 04:30 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by engineengineer - 02-06-2019, 01:25 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-06-2019, 04:40 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 02-06-2019, 04:16 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-06-2019, 04:52 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 02-07-2019, 07:42 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 02-07-2019, 07:39 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-07-2019, 08:28 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-16-2019, 07:17 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 03-23-2019, 06:23 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-24-2019, 12:53 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 03-24-2019, 09:34 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 03-25-2019, 01:18 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-26-2019, 05:36 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 03-26-2019, 07:41 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Langstrom - 04-17-2019, 08:49 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-17-2019, 08:52 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 04-20-2019, 04:53 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 05-11-2019, 06:35 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 05-12-2019, 06:03 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 05-13-2019, 02:14 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 07-29-2019, 11:04 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 07-30-2019, 02:08 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 08-28-2019, 08:08 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 09-04-2019, 01:56 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 08-13-2019, 11:52 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 07-29-2019, 03:41 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 08-14-2019, 01:18 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-15-2019, 08:01 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 10-24-2019, 07:03 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-24-2019, 10:35 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 11-03-2019, 08:02 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by orion - 10-31-2019, 06:23 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-31-2019, 08:14 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by orion - 11-01-2019, 03:32 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-22-2019, 10:29 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 11-23-2019, 11:18 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 01-20-2020, 01:29 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-20-2020, 02:37 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 11-22-2019, 09:52 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-26-2019, 10:02 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 11-29-2019, 05:34 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-29-2019, 02:40 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by ecFSE - 11-29-2019, 02:02 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 11-29-2019, 07:57 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-30-2019, 03:22 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 11-30-2019, 08:19 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-30-2019, 09:01 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-01-2019, 09:15 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-01-2019, 09:36 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 12-03-2019, 02:43 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-03-2019, 08:30 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 12-03-2019, 06:16 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-04-2019, 03:29 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by AlanMcR - 12-04-2019, 04:55 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-04-2019, 06:28 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-09-2019, 06:34 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-10-2019, 07:28 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-11-2019, 06:30 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Drewkeen - 12-11-2019, 10:40 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 12-12-2019, 08:46 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-12-2019, 10:18 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-13-2019, 06:04 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-13-2019, 08:16 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 01-01-2020, 02:15 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-01-2020, 05:33 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 08:16 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-19-2020, 09:44 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 12:37 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 12:38 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:00 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:16 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-19-2020, 01:38 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:54 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-20-2020, 03:48 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by INC - 01-21-2020, 02:24 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 01-21-2020, 07:47 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-22-2020, 05:54 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-24-2020, 04:31 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-25-2020, 06:49 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-26-2020, 02:33 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-28-2020, 07:47 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-26-2020, 05:03 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-26-2020, 06:40 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-27-2020, 03:39 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 01-27-2020, 06:47 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-28-2020, 10:11 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-10-2020, 04:29 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-12-2020, 08:13 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-20-2020, 09:13 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-19-2020, 08:40 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-20-2020, 08:03 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-20-2020, 01:45 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-20-2020, 06:36 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-20-2020, 07:54 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 03-22-2020, 12:27 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-31-2020, 06:34 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 04-13-2020, 03:20 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-13-2020, 06:16 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 05-26-2020, 10:36 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 08-14-2020, 09:30 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-13-2020, 07:02 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 09-09-2020, 08:01 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-15-2020, 06:27 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 10-17-2020, 11:57 PM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-19-2020, 06:39 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 02-05-2021, 10:42 AM

RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-05-2021, 06:06 PM

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