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Common rail diesel discussion thread

Common rail diesel discussion thread

 
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firen456
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01-14-2019, 02:24 AM #2
I wanna know something more about the EDC15/16 ecus from OM613/648. It seems that EIS, ESL, TCU and DAS and some ABS/ESP stuff is needed. The EIS will send a crypted can message to the ecu to start the engine. So we'll have to keep the EIS because it's to complicated to reengineer the crypted message. It seems there are two options to deal with the rest. First: Deleting all the DTCs in the ecu regarding ELS, DAS and TCU like wheelspeed and missing can bus devices and modify the ecu to start without them (gearlever in N or P for example). This seems to be the harder way. The easier solution might be to emulate all the can meassages the ecu wants do see via a can controller. Maybe something arduino based. There will of course have to be deleted some DTCs in the ecu because we don't want to run ELS, factory TCU, DAS and ESP. We must have a W210/211 car to reingeneer the can bus. To start the engine the gearleaver must be in N or P position. What other signals will the engine need to start? Maybe there can be found something in the WIS. Searching for some opinions or a little help from people who run these ecus in older cars.
firen456
01-14-2019, 02:24 AM #2

I wanna know something more about the EDC15/16 ecus from OM613/648. It seems that EIS, ESL, TCU and DAS and some ABS/ESP stuff is needed. The EIS will send a crypted can message to the ecu to start the engine. So we'll have to keep the EIS because it's to complicated to reengineer the crypted message. It seems there are two options to deal with the rest. First: Deleting all the DTCs in the ecu regarding ELS, DAS and TCU like wheelspeed and missing can bus devices and modify the ecu to start without them (gearlever in N or P for example). This seems to be the harder way. The easier solution might be to emulate all the can meassages the ecu wants do see via a can controller. Maybe something arduino based. There will of course have to be deleted some DTCs in the ecu because we don't want to run ELS, factory TCU, DAS and ESP. We must have a W210/211 car to reingeneer the can bus. To start the engine the gearleaver must be in N or P position. What other signals will the engine need to start? Maybe there can be found something in the WIS. Searching for some opinions or a little help from people who run these ecus in older cars.

 
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Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-13-2019, 01:50 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by firen456 - 01-14-2019, 02:24 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 01-29-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by barrote - 01-14-2019, 03:50 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-29-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by AlanMcR - 01-30-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by firen456 - 01-30-2019, 02:56 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by barrote - 01-30-2019, 05:17 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-30-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-02-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-03-2019, 03:02 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-03-2019, 05:23 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 02-03-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-04-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-04-2019, 04:30 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by engineengineer - 02-06-2019, 01:25 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-06-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 02-06-2019, 04:16 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-06-2019, 04:52 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 02-07-2019, 07:42 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 02-07-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-07-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-16-2019, 07:17 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 03-23-2019, 06:23 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-24-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 03-24-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 03-25-2019, 01:18 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-26-2019, 05:36 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 03-26-2019, 07:41 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Langstrom - 04-17-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-17-2019, 08:52 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 04-20-2019, 04:53 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 05-11-2019, 06:35 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 05-12-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by madmog - 05-13-2019, 02:14 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 07-29-2019, 11:04 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 07-30-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 08-28-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 09-04-2019, 01:56 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 08-13-2019, 11:52 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 07-29-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 08-14-2019, 01:18 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-15-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 10-24-2019, 07:03 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-24-2019, 10:35 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 11-03-2019, 08:02 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by orion - 10-31-2019, 06:23 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-31-2019, 08:14 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by orion - 11-01-2019, 03:32 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-22-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 11-23-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 01-20-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-20-2020, 02:37 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Motohead1 - 11-22-2019, 09:52 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-26-2019, 10:02 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 11-29-2019, 05:34 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-29-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by ecFSE - 11-29-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 11-29-2019, 07:57 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-30-2019, 03:22 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 11-30-2019, 08:19 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 11-30-2019, 09:01 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-01-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-01-2019, 09:36 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 12-03-2019, 02:43 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-03-2019, 08:30 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MartinB - 12-03-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-04-2019, 03:29 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by AlanMcR - 12-04-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-04-2019, 06:28 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-09-2019, 06:34 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-10-2019, 07:28 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-11-2019, 06:30 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Drewkeen - 12-11-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Sotvisp - 12-12-2019, 08:46 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-12-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by MTUPower - 12-13-2019, 06:04 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 12-13-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 01-01-2020, 02:15 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-01-2020, 05:33 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 08:16 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-19-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 12:37 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 12:38 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-19-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-19-2020, 01:54 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-20-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by INC - 01-21-2020, 02:24 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 01-21-2020, 07:47 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-22-2020, 05:54 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-24-2020, 04:31 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-25-2020, 06:49 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-26-2020, 02:33 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 01-28-2020, 07:47 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-26-2020, 05:03 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-26-2020, 06:40 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 01-27-2020, 03:39 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 01-27-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 01-28-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-10-2020, 04:29 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by starynovy - 02-12-2020, 08:13 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Turbo - 02-20-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-19-2020, 08:40 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-20-2020, 08:03 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-20-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-20-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 03-20-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by diesel1972 - 03-22-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 03-31-2020, 06:34 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 04-13-2020, 03:20 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-13-2020, 06:16 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by SurfRodder - 05-26-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 08-14-2020, 09:30 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 04-13-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by 50harleyrider - 09-09-2020, 08:01 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-15-2020, 06:27 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by Grecy - 10-17-2020, 11:57 PM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 10-19-2020, 06:39 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by atypicalguy - 02-05-2021, 10:42 AM
RE: Common rail diesel discussion thread - by baldur - 02-05-2021, 06:06 PM
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