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Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606

Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606

 
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wiseman89
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07-16-2019, 05:59 PM #4
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The FTI Torque Converter. So my set up will be a 8mm myna pump with the smallest borg warner s300 turbo....which is still a big turbo. I bought my turbo from AGP turbo and to be honest they wernt the best in helping me pick a turbo. I wanted them to recommend a turbo to me, ANY TURBO, they wouldnt, except tell me the S300 will give me to much turbo lag. So before Fred went A-wall (if thats how you spell it) I told him I wanted a OM606 that will make atleast 500 RWHP. Reason why I picked this number is because my previous car was a 2006 300c SRT8 that made 392 RWHP. So for me to make 400 hp to the wheels doesn't make sense, Im a car guy and I need the "more" out of a engine build. Anyways Fred and Johan both got me into the S300, I know alot of people use holset turbos, but for the price of a brand new S300, how efficient the thing is, it was the way to go. 

Obvisouly I dont want alot of turbo lag off the line, so this is a real experiment here. Since the 722.6 is the same trans used in the SRT cars, there are lots of guys in the US that beef up these transmissions. Ive seen videos of people brake boosting the stock torque converters, and they just grab to early to build enough boost for the off the line performance on a single turbo car. So I sent my torque converter in to FTI and they were able to match up a pump for a NAG 1 for my 722.6266 converter. The guy on the phone at FTI was even surprised it matches up, but I figured it would. So hopefully the car is dont by the end of summer and I can show off some launch videos and burnouts after I break the motor in.

[Image: 20181201_064611%20-%20Copy_zpspyxhl4vd.jpg] 

[Image: 20181201_064621_zps91zggnqk.jpg]

8MM Myna pump. I still hope I didnt get something to aggressive. I know ERX on the forums here says the OM606 cant even burn that much fuel, but its what i discussed with F tune, so I went for it. Also Hopefully with the higher stall converter the motor revs up quicker, builds boost abit faster, and I dont smoke out every street I drive down. 

[Image: 20181205_132946_zpsacdbnyua.jpg]

Installed F Tune head studs

[Image: 20190203_131845_zpsmjsypydu.jpg]

OK this is very important and I hope someone on here doesnt go through the same thing. on the head are TWO circle like pins used for locating the head. The machine shop that build my bottom end removed them and placed these things at the bottom of a parts box I got back. I had chills when I realized this, AFTER torquing the head down. Big time rookie move, buts its my first engine build. Make sure you remember that, the head, cam shaft housing, all locate on something. FML.

[Image: 20190203_134415_zpsnojovmji.jpg]

F tune high flow head gasket. It was really funny. After removing the head and repalcing the locator pins for the head, I ordered a new high flow head gasket from Johan. I couldn't believe but the head gasket that Fred sold me was missing the rubber grommet at the bottom of it. I actually think if I didnt pull off the head, I would have had a coolant leak out the block of in the cylinders and good luck figuring that one out. Probably rookie move made me come out lucky in this case.

[Image: 20190203_141602_zpsio0ikrbt.jpg]

[Image: 20190203_142752_zpsxs59ibf5.jpg]

This is my first time assembling the motor before I had to tear it down to locate the head. second time around I did the assembly with the timing chain cover on first, then torquing the head on.

[Image: 20190203_144723_zpsszfqicnw.jpg]

5.6L V8 being removed from the 560SEL

[Image: 20190210_161514_zpsbs4sqtd8.jpg]

Ive seen people ask for this in the past, for anyone looking for the part number for the rubber o ring, here you go !


[Image: 20190219_165029_zpserddwtar.jpg]

[Image: 20190220_113249_zpsfdcmpsyd.jpg]

Had Johan make me a manifold for the built. After I took the stock 560 engine out I did try to test fit the engine with the manifold, unfortunately it did not fit in 1 place. Now that was with the 560 motor mounts, I got 350SDL mounts and they are about 1 inch taller, I will have to try to see what happens with the right mounts, worst car 1 tube was to be re routed. Overall...... Im pretty happy with it. and quick turn around from Johan as well !

[Image: 20190221_141157_zpssisxshvg.jpg]

Removing these broken bastards ! Had maybe 3 studs break. 1 of them after drilling broke 3 good quality easy outs. I had to sit there with a stone on a dremel and grind away each easy out and drill deeper until finally the stud broke free. Also if anyone has to drill out an easy out, it is possible, you can use something called a Hi-Roc drill bit ( I think thats the name) but if that breaks I dont know how you get that out. And for the dremel, I beleive I was using the dremel brand grinding stone thats used for sharpening chain saws ( its a thin tall green stone) that worked the best, other stones would just blow up. Wear safety glasses.

[Image: 20190225_132709_zpsyfsijbel.jpg]

Next up, Pinning the crank. I have read that the jesus bolt can get loose and cause big problems. Also have been reading that at 5000 RPM inline 6 motors have big harmonic vibrations on the front of the crank shaft, which is probably why some people on here reving their motors that high have had problems. Started doing some research and found some nice kits for pinning balancers on vipers, hellcats, corvettes on summit racing.

Nothing was a direct fit for these motor so I just spent some time on a lathe and fabbed up a tool to drill the crank in 2 spots.

[Image: 20190301_152648_zpsdlv9petf.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_160234_zpswgohcrsk.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_161639_zpsu1etoc9w.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_174055_zps1qmvnuut.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_174133_zpsukaim5qf.jpg]

As a quick side note, the stock bolt Ive seen that come with these motors are a 8.8 bolt. Remember that video of dieselmeken torquing the Jesus bolt down ? Since these are stretch bolts and one time use, I ordered a new OEM bolt, but the one I received was a 10.9 bolt. 10.9 bolts are NOT STRETCH BOLTS and have a different torque setting then the 8.8. There is no 90 degree additional turns with a 10.9 bolt, just a straight torque figure, thats it.
wiseman89
07-16-2019, 05:59 PM #4

[Image: 20181120_122703_zpsd5rqv3s2.jpg]

The FTI Torque Converter. So my set up will be a 8mm myna pump with the smallest borg warner s300 turbo....which is still a big turbo. I bought my turbo from AGP turbo and to be honest they wernt the best in helping me pick a turbo. I wanted them to recommend a turbo to me, ANY TURBO, they wouldnt, except tell me the S300 will give me to much turbo lag. So before Fred went A-wall (if thats how you spell it) I told him I wanted a OM606 that will make atleast 500 RWHP. Reason why I picked this number is because my previous car was a 2006 300c SRT8 that made 392 RWHP. So for me to make 400 hp to the wheels doesn't make sense, Im a car guy and I need the "more" out of a engine build. Anyways Fred and Johan both got me into the S300, I know alot of people use holset turbos, but for the price of a brand new S300, how efficient the thing is, it was the way to go. 

Obvisouly I dont want alot of turbo lag off the line, so this is a real experiment here. Since the 722.6 is the same trans used in the SRT cars, there are lots of guys in the US that beef up these transmissions. Ive seen videos of people brake boosting the stock torque converters, and they just grab to early to build enough boost for the off the line performance on a single turbo car. So I sent my torque converter in to FTI and they were able to match up a pump for a NAG 1 for my 722.6266 converter. The guy on the phone at FTI was even surprised it matches up, but I figured it would. So hopefully the car is dont by the end of summer and I can show off some launch videos and burnouts after I break the motor in.

[Image: 20181201_064611%20-%20Copy_zpspyxhl4vd.jpg] 

[Image: 20181201_064621_zps91zggnqk.jpg]

8MM Myna pump. I still hope I didnt get something to aggressive. I know ERX on the forums here says the OM606 cant even burn that much fuel, but its what i discussed with F tune, so I went for it. Also Hopefully with the higher stall converter the motor revs up quicker, builds boost abit faster, and I dont smoke out every street I drive down. 

[Image: 20181205_132946_zpsacdbnyua.jpg]

Installed F Tune head studs

[Image: 20190203_131845_zpsmjsypydu.jpg]

OK this is very important and I hope someone on here doesnt go through the same thing. on the head are TWO circle like pins used for locating the head. The machine shop that build my bottom end removed them and placed these things at the bottom of a parts box I got back. I had chills when I realized this, AFTER torquing the head down. Big time rookie move, buts its my first engine build. Make sure you remember that, the head, cam shaft housing, all locate on something. FML.

[Image: 20190203_134415_zpsnojovmji.jpg]

F tune high flow head gasket. It was really funny. After removing the head and repalcing the locator pins for the head, I ordered a new high flow head gasket from Johan. I couldn't believe but the head gasket that Fred sold me was missing the rubber grommet at the bottom of it. I actually think if I didnt pull off the head, I would have had a coolant leak out the block of in the cylinders and good luck figuring that one out. Probably rookie move made me come out lucky in this case.

[Image: 20190203_141602_zpsio0ikrbt.jpg]

[Image: 20190203_142752_zpsxs59ibf5.jpg]

This is my first time assembling the motor before I had to tear it down to locate the head. second time around I did the assembly with the timing chain cover on first, then torquing the head on.

[Image: 20190203_144723_zpsszfqicnw.jpg]

5.6L V8 being removed from the 560SEL

[Image: 20190210_161514_zpsbs4sqtd8.jpg]

Ive seen people ask for this in the past, for anyone looking for the part number for the rubber o ring, here you go !


[Image: 20190219_165029_zpserddwtar.jpg]

[Image: 20190220_113249_zpsfdcmpsyd.jpg]

Had Johan make me a manifold for the built. After I took the stock 560 engine out I did try to test fit the engine with the manifold, unfortunately it did not fit in 1 place. Now that was with the 560 motor mounts, I got 350SDL mounts and they are about 1 inch taller, I will have to try to see what happens with the right mounts, worst car 1 tube was to be re routed. Overall...... Im pretty happy with it. and quick turn around from Johan as well !

[Image: 20190221_141157_zpssisxshvg.jpg]

Removing these broken bastards ! Had maybe 3 studs break. 1 of them after drilling broke 3 good quality easy outs. I had to sit there with a stone on a dremel and grind away each easy out and drill deeper until finally the stud broke free. Also if anyone has to drill out an easy out, it is possible, you can use something called a Hi-Roc drill bit ( I think thats the name) but if that breaks I dont know how you get that out. And for the dremel, I beleive I was using the dremel brand grinding stone thats used for sharpening chain saws ( its a thin tall green stone) that worked the best, other stones would just blow up. Wear safety glasses.

[Image: 20190225_132709_zpsyfsijbel.jpg]

Next up, Pinning the crank. I have read that the jesus bolt can get loose and cause big problems. Also have been reading that at 5000 RPM inline 6 motors have big harmonic vibrations on the front of the crank shaft, which is probably why some people on here reving their motors that high have had problems. Started doing some research and found some nice kits for pinning balancers on vipers, hellcats, corvettes on summit racing.

Nothing was a direct fit for these motor so I just spent some time on a lathe and fabbed up a tool to drill the crank in 2 spots.

[Image: 20190301_152648_zpsdlv9petf.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_160234_zpswgohcrsk.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_161639_zpsu1etoc9w.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_174055_zps1qmvnuut.jpg]

[Image: 20190301_174133_zpsukaim5qf.jpg]

As a quick side note, the stock bolt Ive seen that come with these motors are a 8.8 bolt. Remember that video of dieselmeken torquing the Jesus bolt down ? Since these are stretch bolts and one time use, I ordered a new OEM bolt, but the one I received was a 10.9 bolt. 10.9 bolts are NOT STRETCH BOLTS and have a different torque setting then the 8.8. There is no 90 degree additional turns with a 10.9 bolt, just a straight torque figure, thats it.

 
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Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 09-22-2018, 09:12 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by awsrock - 09-25-2018, 07:02 AM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 07-16-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 07-16-2019, 05:59 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 07-16-2019, 06:18 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by atypicalguy - 07-27-2019, 11:00 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by WSchotty - 07-17-2019, 09:00 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by 84 GTI - 07-26-2019, 07:55 AM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 07-28-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by atypicalguy - 07-29-2019, 01:36 AM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by wiseman89 - 04-10-2020, 09:59 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by atypicalguy - 04-12-2020, 11:30 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by baldur - 04-17-2020, 03:43 AM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by atypicalguy - 04-27-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: Wiseman's 91 W126 OM606 - by baldur - 04-29-2020, 10:46 AM
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