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USA OM648 power upgrades?
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USA OM648 power upgrades?
What can I do to give more power to my w211 CDI?  I'm in the USA and options seem to be limited.
2005 CDI with removable Kleeman tuning box /// 1984 300TD - Myna pump/ Underhood IC/ AAZ injectors/ enlarged PC's/ stock Garrett boost to 20psi/ W126 II front brakes/ Vogtland springs/ EGT +Boost gauges/  H4 Hella's
03-03-2018, 07:45 PM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
How much power do you want?

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03-04-2018, 03:52 PM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
Billet compressor wheel, big FMIC, 3" exhaust and good remap - 300+HP with stock turbo spool and lot of low rpm torque Smile .

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03-04-2018, 03:59 PM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
Do you have links to any of those suggestions? I have Kleeman box on the engine now...
2005 CDI with removable Kleeman tuning box /// 1984 300TD - Myna pump/ Underhood IC/ AAZ injectors/ enlarged PC's/ stock Garrett boost to 20psi/ W126 II front brakes/ Vogtland springs/ EGT +Boost gauges/  H4 Hella's
03-04-2018, 05:32 PM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
Something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Turbo-Co...5B&vxp=mtr


Box is crap. You need proper ecu remap.

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03-04-2018, 08:02 PM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
do u get a aftermarket computer box ( management system for diesel motors )
would like to install a om648 in my ldv
03-05-2018, 10:00 AM
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if any one can assist me please email me    rianrobbertse2@gmail.com
i will apresiate help
03-05-2018, 10:04 AM
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03-05-2018, 01:30 PM
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(03-04-2018, 03:59 PM)MartinB Wrote: Billet compressor wheel, big FMIC, 3" exhaust and good remap - 300+HP with stock turbo spool and lot of low rpm torque Smile .

and new maf...
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not MAF...but 4bar MAP

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03-10-2018, 12:31 PM
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yeah tuning seems to be a issue in NA...I've been dealing with local tuners for the past year or so trying to get my OM647 setup right and finally got somebody that feels comfortable working on it...

as for the original question - my plan is to do everything I can to max the stock injectors as sourcing the AMG units out here will be super expensive...that includes a 4bar map, om648 turbo (remember I`m working with a 647 so this is an upgrade from GT20 to GT23), stage 1 tune for that, and finally a Holset WG converted setup...I`ll probably stop when I run out of fuel - haven't seen anybody offer injector upgrades so far...
04-11-2018, 01:05 PM
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There are way better injector then the 0445110152/153 around now
yeah people that really know what they are doing and want to help you sure is not easy to find...
04-11-2018, 02:53 PM
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(04-11-2018, 02:53 PM)Turbo Wrote: There are way better injector then the 0445110152/153 around now
yeah people that really know what they are doing and want to help you sure is not easy to find...

do tell - anybody offering nozzle upgrades on these? I've got spare set I can mail out if there are upgrade options
04-13-2018, 10:33 AM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
I speaking of new original Bosch injectors that is way faster, give a lot more flow and take way higher injections pressure so atomisation i much better. I got the map for them but I need to control the injection angel and mechanically fitment now. electrical socket connection is not the same but these is of solenoid typ not pizo. I bought some so they where not ridiculous expensive.
if I do not remember wrong they gives about 93mm3 at 690micro secunds at 1800 bar, amg injector 0445110152 give 89,4mm3 at 1200micro secunds and 1350bar. 2200 bar is safe, but I want to go up to 2500-2700 rail pressure
I have an engine to modify as well and have most of the hard ware now

will right more about them when I have come to test more.
04-14-2018, 01:29 AM
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Jerry @ Eurocharged in Texas has been working with me. I have a 2014 ML350. I think we have finally got the tune down pretty well. I have had to send it back 3 times but last time seems to be really good. I am also running a hybrid billet ball bearing GT2363VKLR. Avd Turbo helped me build that.
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04-14-2018, 07:01 AM
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(04-14-2018, 01:29 AM)Turbo Wrote: I speaking of new original Bosch injectors that is way faster, give a lot more flow and take way higher injections pressure so atomisation i much better. I got the map for them but I need to  control the injection angel and mechanically fitment now. electrical socket connection is not the same but these is of solenoid typ not pizo.   I bought some so they where not ridiculous expensive.
if I do not remember wrong they gives about 93mm3 at 690micro secunds at 1800 bar, amg injector 0445110152 give 89,4mm3 at 1200micro secunds and 1350bar. 2200 bar is safe, but I want to go up to 2500-2700 rail pressure
I have an engine to modify as well and have most of the hard ware now

will right more about them when I have come to test more.

Big Grin  That´s absolutely nonsense..why completely other injectors?? Why 23492440924824bar RP? Best way for more fuel in shorter time is bigger nozzles...not this bullshit.

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04-16-2018, 03:08 PM
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you may call it bullshit, I want a engine that is working very clean. If you do not know what pressure do on the combustion efficiency please look it up and there is some report about it, it is not that hard to find...
the specification on that injector I speak about is way better then old amg ones but If you want to live in believing this fine by me, I will not... This is standard bosch injector that has not been played around with by somebody...
04-16-2018, 11:59 PM
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Why dont you give us a BOSCH number of this mythical "2200Bar is safe" selenoid injector? Big Grin

Funny fact: Smoke is not proportional to how crazy rail pressure is.
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04-17-2018, 08:02 AM
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RE: USA OM648 power upgrades?
Jag har en riktigt god karamell att suga på och jag kommer suga en stund till på den och ser ingen anledning att dela med mig för tillfället, speciellt med tanke på allt arbete jag lagt ner för att hitta dem, om du har ett smörgåsbord att erbjuda kan jag funderare Wink
sug på den google translate Smile
seriously, if you have read what I have been written in the past you know what I got if you know some of injectors


Your funny fact, can not understand whats so funny, both you and I know that increasing rail pressure do not by automatic solve your answer, please read
-"Potential and Challenges of a 3000 Bar Common-Rail Injection System Considering Engine Behavior and Emission Level"
04-17-2018, 02:55 PM
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Just bullshit talking. Also making tuned DPF-less diesel run clean by more rail pressure.. dafak.
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Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
04-17-2018, 04:13 PM
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My funny fact of you, Turbo: You did not give anything to anyone in this forum. Only suck for knowledge. You gave only nothing-to-say-comments. And now you sent these shit words that you have Holy Grail. Just OMFG

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(04-17-2018, 04:28 PM)MartinB Wrote: My funny fact of you, Turbo: You did not give anything to anyone in this forum. Only suck for knowledge. You gave only nothing-to-say-comments. And now you sent these shit words that you have Holy Grail. Just OMFG

its water tight with info regarding cdi remapping o any advise i this matter ,boring to give any info back if you dont get a shit in return.... Sad Sad Sad
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