STD Tuning Engine Om606 Failed starter motor?

Om606 Failed starter motor?

Om606 Failed starter motor?

 
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BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
08-10-2017, 08:26 PM #1
Hello forum. My 1998 e300 w210 om606 td wont crank over. Turn key and click. Good battery verified. My hunch is starter motor but dont want to throw money at car without being sure. Any suggestions to further diagnose?

1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!
BoostedW124
08-10-2017, 08:26 PM #1

Hello forum. My 1998 e300 w210 om606 td wont crank over. Turn key and click. Good battery verified. My hunch is starter motor but dont want to throw money at car without being sure. Any suggestions to further diagnose?


1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
08-11-2017, 05:45 AM #2
Tap the solenoid with a hammer (tap not a whack lol) it might free it up


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
08-11-2017, 05:45 AM #2

Tap the solenoid with a hammer (tap not a whack lol) it might free it up



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
08-11-2017, 06:19 PM #3
Is it a click click click like battery is low or just one click that isn't too loud? Like a relay engaging.

If you shift to N does it crank over? These w210's have a few issues from what I've read/experienced.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
08-11-2017, 06:19 PM #3

Is it a click click click like battery is low or just one click that isn't too loud? Like a relay engaging.

If you shift to N does it crank over? These w210's have a few issues from what I've read/experienced.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
08-11-2017, 09:40 PM #4
Yes just one click like a relay. I heard the keys can wear out but i think mine is fine everything else electronic turns on with key. I guess ill have to take it out and bench test old fashioned way.

1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!
BoostedW124
08-11-2017, 09:40 PM #4

Yes just one click like a relay. I heard the keys can wear out but i think mine is fine everything else electronic turns on with key. I guess ill have to take it out and bench test old fashioned way.


1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
08-11-2017, 09:41 PM #5
No i tried in neutral Also

1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!
BoostedW124
08-11-2017, 09:41 PM #5

No i tried in neutral Also


1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
08-11-2017, 10:59 PM #6
The EIS (electronic ignition switch) can go out and cause that exact symptom.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
08-11-2017, 10:59 PM #6

The EIS (electronic ignition switch) can go out and cause that exact symptom.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

Mr.Emo
Nissan Patrol -> 606 conversion.

69
08-12-2017, 02:05 AM #7
I'm having the same issue but my problem is intermittent, it comes and goes randomly. The glow light and all electronic works but the engine won't crank.

Anyone know where to find a workshop manual for this? I know there is an online version for the w124.
Mr.Emo
08-12-2017, 02:05 AM #7

I'm having the same issue but my problem is intermittent, it comes and goes randomly. The glow light and all electronic works but the engine won't crank.

Anyone know where to find a workshop manual for this? I know there is an online version for the w124.

AlanMcR
mind - blown

400
08-12-2017, 02:31 PM #8
(08-12-2017, 02:05 AM)Mr.Emo I'm having the same issue but my problem is intermittent, it comes and goes randomly. The glow light and all electronic works but the engine won't crank.

Anyone know where to find a workshop manual for this? I know there is an online version for the w124.
Most likely your problem is the neutral safety switch. Wiggle the shifter the next time it fails to crank.
AlanMcR
08-12-2017, 02:31 PM #8

(08-12-2017, 02:05 AM)Mr.Emo I'm having the same issue but my problem is intermittent, it comes and goes randomly. The glow light and all electronic works but the engine won't crank.

Anyone know where to find a workshop manual for this? I know there is an online version for the w124.
Most likely your problem is the neutral safety switch. Wiggle the shifter the next time it fails to crank.

Austincarnut
Holset

298
08-12-2017, 08:59 PM #9
(08-10-2017, 08:26 PM)BoostedW124 Hello forum. My 1998 e300 w210 om606 td wont crank over. Turn key and click. Good battery verified. My hunch is starter motor but dont want to throw money at car without being sure. Any suggestions to further diagnose?

Get a strong battery and jump starter relay---make sure its in park @ shifter and transmission
Austincarnut
08-12-2017, 08:59 PM #9

(08-10-2017, 08:26 PM)BoostedW124 Hello forum. My 1998 e300 w210 om606 td wont crank over. Turn key and click. Good battery verified. My hunch is starter motor but dont want to throw money at car without being sure. Any suggestions to further diagnose?

Get a strong battery and jump starter relay---make sure its in park @ shifter and transmission

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-18-2017, 12:40 PM #10
you can reach the + terminal on the starter if you remove the inlet manifold.

My 202 sometimes experiences this I cycle lock & unlock a few times when sat in the car once or twice and it cures it.

So my EIS is on it's way to being borked also.. Dam..




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-18-2017, 12:40 PM #10

you can reach the + terminal on the starter if you remove the inlet manifold.

My 202 sometimes experiences this I cycle lock & unlock a few times when sat in the car once or twice and it cures it.

So my EIS is on it's way to being borked also.. Dam..





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
08-20-2017, 08:16 PM #11
Ok i will remove intake manifold tomorrow and jump solenoid. I checked all fuses, just replaced brake switch although i dont see how that could cause no start and also removed and inspected k40 chip and all is correct. Thank you guys i will let you know soon.

1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!
BoostedW124
08-20-2017, 08:16 PM #11

Ok i will remove intake manifold tomorrow and jump solenoid. I checked all fuses, just replaced brake switch although i dont see how that could cause no start and also removed and inspected k40 chip and all is correct. Thank you guys i will let you know soon.


1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
08-27-2017, 10:43 PM #12
I took off old starter and swapped in the spare from my w124 na diesel and it cranked and fired right up. Thank you all.

1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!
BoostedW124
08-27-2017, 10:43 PM #12

I took off old starter and swapped in the spare from my w124 na diesel and it cranked and fired right up. Thank you all.


1998 w210 e300 TD: egr delete, muffler delete, amg 18s, I love this car!
1995 w124 e300 diesel: bolted on junkyard w210 turbo.. yes you can "easily" boost your om606na! RIP
1991 w201: putting the om606 na to turbo into this. Not enough hours in the day!

 
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