STD Tuning Engine OM617 oil filter adapter question

OM617 oil filter adapter question

OM617 oil filter adapter question

 
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gregman_1
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08-08-2017, 09:15 PM #1
Hey guys.  Working on my 617 getting it ready for the swap and have a quick question.  I have been considering using an oil filter relocation adapter from either Koch or Doomsday Diesel to change it over to a spin on filter.  If I do this, will it be possible to access the rear of the injection pump for tuning without removing it?

Thanks in advance!
gregman_1
08-08-2017, 09:15 PM #1

Hey guys.  Working on my 617 getting it ready for the swap and have a quick question.  I have been considering using an oil filter relocation adapter from either Koch or Doomsday Diesel to change it over to a spin on filter.  If I do this, will it be possible to access the rear of the injection pump for tuning without removing it?

Thanks in advance!

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
08-09-2017, 12:08 AM #2
Provided the thing you need to shift the housing out of the way for isn't in the way


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
08-09-2017, 12:08 AM #2

Provided the thing you need to shift the housing out of the way for isn't in the way



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




gregman_1
Naturally-aspirated

9
08-09-2017, 06:43 AM #3
(08-09-2017, 12:08 AM)NZScott Provided the thing you need to shift the housing out of the way for isn't in the way

I'm putting the engine in an old Wrangler so I have a ton of room, I have considered the relocation kit so I can use spin on filters, and if I can get at the back of the IP for tuning without taking it out, that's a huge plus.
gregman_1
08-09-2017, 06:43 AM #3

(08-09-2017, 12:08 AM)NZScott Provided the thing you need to shift the housing out of the way for isn't in the way

I'm putting the engine in an old Wrangler so I have a ton of room, I have considered the relocation kit so I can use spin on filters, and if I can get at the back of the IP for tuning without taking it out, that's a huge plus.

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
08-09-2017, 10:55 PM #4
Ahaa
The stock filter system is engineering genius IMO with ease of servicing along with the fact it has a built in bypass filter.
You're not really going to make that many pump adjustments are you? Keeping the stock pump I guess you would do a few but once they're done that's it, and taking the whole pump off each time isn't actually that bad. Your engine however so you're free to do as you please Wink


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
08-09-2017, 10:55 PM #4

Ahaa
The stock filter system is engineering genius IMO with ease of servicing along with the fact it has a built in bypass filter.
You're not really going to make that many pump adjustments are you? Keeping the stock pump I guess you would do a few but once they're done that's it, and taking the whole pump off each time isn't actually that bad. Your engine however so you're free to do as you please Wink



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
08-13-2017, 07:46 PM #5
If you relocate it, relocate the stocker. It makes for nice clean oil changes.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-13-2017, 07:46 PM #5

If you relocate it, relocate the stocker. It makes for nice clean oil changes.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
08-13-2017, 11:35 PM #6
(08-13-2017, 07:46 PM)Simpler=Better If you relocate it, relocate the stocker.  It makes for nice clean oil changes.

Yes that's an an option too I forgot all about, personally don't see the effort is worth it just to do pump adjustments but once again one can do what one likes


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
08-13-2017, 11:35 PM #6

(08-13-2017, 07:46 PM)Simpler=Better If you relocate it, relocate the stocker.  It makes for nice clean oil changes.

Yes that's an an option too I forgot all about, personally don't see the effort is worth it just to do pump adjustments but once again one can do what one likes



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




gregman_1
Naturally-aspirated

9
08-24-2017, 08:09 PM #7
OK, looks like I'll keep the stock setup and utilize that $100 elsewhere on the engine. I was thinking I could avoid pulling/replacing/timing the IP during the tuning process (I've been told it's about 4 hours off/on), and was interested to think I could keep using the same PH16 filters the old engine takes, but I know when to take good advice.
gregman_1
08-24-2017, 08:09 PM #7

OK, looks like I'll keep the stock setup and utilize that $100 elsewhere on the engine. I was thinking I could avoid pulling/replacing/timing the IP during the tuning process (I've been told it's about 4 hours off/on), and was interested to think I could keep using the same PH16 filters the old engine takes, but I know when to take good advice.

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
08-24-2017, 10:40 PM #8
Takes about 10 mins to take off and a bit longer to get on to time it so dunno where 4 hours comes from Wink


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
08-24-2017, 10:40 PM #8

Takes about 10 mins to take off and a bit longer to get on to time it so dunno where 4 hours comes from Wink



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




 
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