STD Tuning Engine Hx40 "Low" and slow boost?

Hx40 "Low" and slow boost?

Hx40 "Low" and slow boost?

 
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rn180
Naturally-aspirated

8
05-23-2017, 08:11 AM #1
Hi i just mounted a hx40 14cm2 on my om606 7,5mm dieselmeken pump.
The problem is I feel like the turbo is very slow spooled to be an 14cm2 housing, full boost at 4500-5000rpm. And max boost is 2.1 bar

Is this how the hx40 should perform or is there something wrong?
rn180
05-23-2017, 08:11 AM #1

Hi i just mounted a hx40 14cm2 on my om606 7,5mm dieselmeken pump.
The problem is I feel like the turbo is very slow spooled to be an 14cm2 housing, full boost at 4500-5000rpm. And max boost is 2.1 bar

Is this how the hx40 should perform or is there something wrong?

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
05-23-2017, 10:32 AM #2
that sounds like a 14 for you. How is smoke?




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
05-23-2017, 10:32 AM #2

that sounds like a 14 for you. How is smoke?





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
05-23-2017, 11:44 AM #3
Unfortunatly that is the fact...

FD,
Powered by tractor fuel
barrote
05-23-2017, 11:44 AM #3

Unfortunatly that is the fact...


FD,
Powered by tractor fuel

rn180
Naturally-aspirated

8
05-23-2017, 11:51 AM #4
What turbo should i have to have 3 bar boost?
There is alot of smoke when mine hits 2.1 bar
rn180
05-23-2017, 11:51 AM #4

What turbo should i have to have 3 bar boost?
There is alot of smoke when mine hits 2.1 bar

NW124
Naturally-aspirated

13
05-23-2017, 10:48 PM #5
We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?
NW124
05-23-2017, 10:48 PM #5

We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

atypicalguy
Holset

555
05-24-2017, 12:27 AM #6
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

How much fuel are these pumps set for?
atypicalguy
05-24-2017, 12:27 AM #6

(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

How much fuel are these pumps set for?

rn180
Naturally-aspirated

8
05-24-2017, 07:40 PM #7
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

What turbo were you using?
rn180
05-24-2017, 07:40 PM #7

(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

What turbo were you using?

NW124
Naturally-aspirated

13
05-25-2017, 01:34 PM #8
(05-24-2017, 12:27 AM)atypicalguy
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

How much fuel are these pumps set for?

They come set at 140CC of fuel. We've only ran a superstroker pump and not a superpump so I cannot say how they differ in comparing spooling, hp or performance on equivalent fueling levels. The superstroker pump has a more aggressive cam profile and is timed much differently (22 BTDC). Conservatively I would estimate that the pump is currently set to 180-200CC.
NW124
05-25-2017, 01:34 PM #8

(05-24-2017, 12:27 AM)atypicalguy
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

How much fuel are these pumps set for?

They come set at 140CC of fuel. We've only ran a superstroker pump and not a superpump so I cannot say how they differ in comparing spooling, hp or performance on equivalent fueling levels. The superstroker pump has a more aggressive cam profile and is timed much differently (22 BTDC). Conservatively I would estimate that the pump is currently set to 180-200CC.

NW124
Naturally-aspirated

13
05-25-2017, 01:44 PM #9
(05-24-2017, 07:40 PM)rn180
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

What turbo were you using?

Borg Warner S364.5 FMW Ceramic Coated .91 Twin Scroll
NW124
05-25-2017, 01:44 PM #9

(05-24-2017, 07:40 PM)rn180
(05-23-2017, 10:48 PM)NW124 We run a larger turbo and had the same AR as you currently have and hit max boost around 3500k. Our max boost was 3.5bar. We dropped the AR to .91 but still twin scroll and the turbo starts lighting up 500 rpm sooner. Is your manifold, exhaust and timing all on point?

What turbo were you using?

Borg Warner S364.5 FMW Ceramic Coated .91 Twin Scroll

hents99
GT2256V

157
05-28-2017, 12:40 AM #10
Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

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hents99
05-28-2017, 12:40 AM #10

Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
06-02-2017, 06:17 PM #11
(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.
atypicalguy
06-02-2017, 06:17 PM #11

(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.

hents99
GT2256V

157
06-04-2017, 05:45 AM #12
(06-02-2017, 06:17 PM)atypicalguy
(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.

Maybe because I haven't got any good MBC.
And EBC is much easier to adjust. Click and works.

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www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.
hents99
06-04-2017, 05:45 AM #12

(06-02-2017, 06:17 PM)atypicalguy
(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.

Maybe because I haven't got any good MBC.
And EBC is much easier to adjust. Click and works.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
06-17-2018, 02:15 PM #13
(06-04-2017, 05:45 AM)hents99
(06-02-2017, 06:17 PM)atypicalguy
(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.

Maybe because I haven't got any good MBC.
And EBC is much easier to adjust. Click and works.
Which electronic boost controller do you use?
atypicalguy
06-17-2018, 02:15 PM #13

(06-04-2017, 05:45 AM)hents99
(06-02-2017, 06:17 PM)atypicalguy
(05-28-2017, 12:40 AM)hents99 Depends on boost control solenoid valve as well. I never use manual boost controllers. Spoolup is approx 300-500rpm lower with EBC.
Wastegate may leak.

Interesting.

Maybe because I haven't got any good MBC.
And EBC is much easier to adjust. Click and works.
Which electronic boost controller do you use?

atypicalguy
Holset

555
06-27-2018, 07:36 PM #14
(05-23-2017, 08:11 AM)rn180 Hi i just mounted a hx40 14cm2 on my om606 7,5mm dieselmeken pump.
The problem is I feel like the turbo is very slow spooled to be an 14cm2 housing, full boost at 4500-5000rpm. And max boost is 2.1 bar

Is this how the hx40 should perform or is there something wrong?

Seems like not enough boost. Wastegate must be leaking.
atypicalguy
06-27-2018, 07:36 PM #14

(05-23-2017, 08:11 AM)rn180 Hi i just mounted a hx40 14cm2 on my om606 7,5mm dieselmeken pump.
The problem is I feel like the turbo is very slow spooled to be an 14cm2 housing, full boost at 4500-5000rpm. And max boost is 2.1 bar

Is this how the hx40 should perform or is there something wrong?

Seems like not enough boost. Wastegate must be leaking.

 
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