STD Tuning Engine Om606 turbo head swap advice.

Om606 turbo head swap advice.

Om606 turbo head swap advice.

 
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BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
03-23-2017, 01:24 PM #1
I ended up stripping the glow plug threads and tried to save it with a helicoil. The tab from the coil when I broke it off fell into the engine and when I started the car I heard the piece of metal go through the head and now I have blow by from the valve. I have a non turbo om606 from a w124. Will I be losing anything from putting that head on through my turbo motor? Is anyone selling a om606 head by any chance in the tri-state area? Does anyone offer a rebuild kit for the head of these engines? Hopefully I can have a machine shop Salvage my head but I am trying to weigh my options and make a game plan. What would you guys do in this situation? Thank you very much
BoostedW124
03-23-2017, 01:24 PM #1

I ended up stripping the glow plug threads and tried to save it with a helicoil. The tab from the coil when I broke it off fell into the engine and when I started the car I heard the piece of metal go through the head and now I have blow by from the valve. I have a non turbo om606 from a w124. Will I be losing anything from putting that head on through my turbo motor? Is anyone selling a om606 head by any chance in the tri-state area? Does anyone offer a rebuild kit for the head of these engines? Hopefully I can have a machine shop Salvage my head but I am trying to weigh my options and make a game plan. What would you guys do in this situation? Thank you very much

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
03-23-2017, 02:07 PM #2
TD and N/A head assy are the same... at least in the 605´s suspect is the same in the 606´s . strange how u let something fall in the GP hole and endend inside the chamber ....
U can use the N/A head direct or swap the turbo valves in and the springs. Exaust valves are diff and valve springs... rest is same part numbers .
BTW keep the N/A cams in the turbo ...
But that is not your major concern, the piston is surelly damaged, maybe u´ll need to replace it too.
pray u have only those those damage.
regards

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barrote
03-23-2017, 02:07 PM #2

TD and N/A head assy are the same... at least in the 605´s suspect is the same in the 606´s . strange how u let something fall in the GP hole and endend inside the chamber ....
U can use the N/A head direct or swap the turbo valves in and the springs. Exaust valves are diff and valve springs... rest is same part numbers .
BTW keep the N/A cams in the turbo ...
But that is not your major concern, the piston is surelly damaged, maybe u´ll need to replace it too.
pray u have only those those damage.
regards


FD,
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TurboTim
Holset

457
03-24-2017, 06:50 AM #3
Maybe the valve pinched the piece?

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
03-24-2017, 06:50 AM #3

Maybe the valve pinched the piece?


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-24-2017, 08:44 AM #4
It's probably going to be cheapest to find a beater 300D for sale and just buy the whole car. I've seen a few go for like $800 running.

If you buy a pulled head it's going to be way more than that

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-24-2017, 08:44 AM #4

It's probably going to be cheapest to find a beater 300D for sale and just buy the whole car. I've seen a few go for like $800 running.

If you buy a pulled head it's going to be way more than that


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
03-26-2017, 07:06 AM #5
Turbo Tim this is what I also think and hope. I just got head off last night and nothing I can see is visibly damaged but I think something will show when I pull the valves and look at the top below the glow old (where the neutral should of fell. Barrotte, thank you, intake and exhaust valve springs are better? I think I would like to swap thEse over and use my clean na head.
BoostedW124
03-26-2017, 07:06 AM #5

Turbo Tim this is what I also think and hope. I just got head off last night and nothing I can see is visibly damaged but I think something will show when I pull the valves and look at the top below the glow old (where the neutral should of fell. Barrotte, thank you, intake and exhaust valve springs are better? I think I would like to swap thEse over and use my clean na head.

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
03-26-2017, 07:34 AM #6
Turbo Tim this is what I also think and hope. I just got head off last night and nothing I can see is visibly damaged but I think something will show when I pull the valves and look at the top below the glow old (where the neutral should of fell. Barrotte, thank you, intake and exhaust valve springs are better? I think I would like to swap thEse over and use my clean na head.
BoostedW124
03-26-2017, 07:34 AM #6

Turbo Tim this is what I also think and hope. I just got head off last night and nothing I can see is visibly damaged but I think something will show when I pull the valves and look at the top below the glow old (where the neutral should of fell. Barrotte, thank you, intake and exhaust valve springs are better? I think I would like to swap thEse over and use my clean na head.

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
03-26-2017, 07:44 AM #7
When I turboed my na engine I talked to dieselmeken about a new pump and he advised me I could put stiffer valve springs and call it a day. I mean its only a stock w210. I plan on more power in the future but with stiffer springs he said na can take 300 hp reliable. my next thought is glow plugs I bought brand new for turbo engine and I compared them to my na head (all 6 glow plug came out easy like a spark plug change) and they are same length just different connector at harness and electrode tip looks a little different shape but I don't see why I can't use them.
BoostedW124
03-26-2017, 07:44 AM #7

When I turboed my na engine I talked to dieselmeken about a new pump and he advised me I could put stiffer valve springs and call it a day. I mean its only a stock w210. I plan on more power in the future but with stiffer springs he said na can take 300 hp reliable. my next thought is glow plugs I bought brand new for turbo engine and I compared them to my na head (all 6 glow plug came out easy like a spark plug change) and they are same length just different connector at harness and electrode tip looks a little different shape but I don't see why I can't use them.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
03-26-2017, 09:00 AM #8
Friend, next time: Pull injector, pull prechamber, magnet on a piece of spring....




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
03-26-2017, 09:00 AM #8

Friend, next time: Pull injector, pull prechamber, magnet on a piece of spring....





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

BoostedW124
TA 0301

59
03-26-2017, 11:35 AM #9
good idea Hario, I learned a lot so far from this time consuming/expensive mistake. I still dont see how prechamber comes off.
BoostedW124
03-26-2017, 11:35 AM #9

good idea Hario, I learned a lot so far from this time consuming/expensive mistake. I still dont see how prechamber comes off.

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-27-2017, 10:20 AM #10
With a special puller and a slam hammer

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-27-2017, 10:20 AM #10

With a special puller and a slam hammer


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

 
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