Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement.
Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement.
09-23-2016, 07:07 AM
#15
About injectors spraying into bucket. The whole problem that I tried to explain is: The injector is set to pop at a pressure difference of 150 bar. That means line pressure of 150 bar when just spraying into bucket... but it will be 400 bar when spraying into a room with 250 bar pressure ... or 600 when there is 450 bar pressure.
That is the whole problem and the reason why I want to measure the line pressures: they for sure will be higher than 150 bar... but we do not know how high.
And if it would be for example 500 bar, I think that an injector cannot be set for such a high pressure, or can it be ?
Starynovy and R-3350, I think you are both right about controlling the SOI. Measuring a piezo pulse on the fuel line will work as a needle lift sensor signal, but the exact position of the pump shaft for sure will also be usable for a control strategy too. I think, when the time will come, we will investigate which strategy is better.
I will have a closer look to the elements development, I wanted to do it anyway
SurfRodder, thank you ... and thanks again for the very valueable tip about the pump tool. Will save me some annoying fabrication
Evgeniy1987
09-23-2016, 07:07 AM #15Starynovy, good that you said that... I did some research, and often, sensors have 20ms response time, which is waaaay to slow. I now found them with " =< 2ms" .. so I am searching for even better. Remember: at 6000 RPM, one revolution takes only 10 ms ... and what is the total delivery time of the fuel then ? For sure not more than 2 ms ...
About injectors spraying into bucket. The whole problem that I tried to explain is: The injector is set to pop at a pressure difference of 150 bar. That means line pressure of 150 bar when just spraying into bucket... but it will be 400 bar when spraying into a room with 250 bar pressure ... or 600 when there is 450 bar pressure.
That is the whole problem and the reason why I want to measure the line pressures: they for sure will be higher than 150 bar... but we do not know how high.
And if it would be for example 500 bar, I think that an injector cannot be set for such a high pressure, or can it be ?
Starynovy and R-3350, I think you are both right about controlling the SOI. Measuring a piezo pulse on the fuel line will work as a needle lift sensor signal, but the exact position of the pump shaft for sure will also be usable for a control strategy too. I think, when the time will come, we will investigate which strategy is better.
I will have a closer look to the elements development, I wanted to do it anyway
SurfRodder, thank you ... and thanks again for the very valueable tip about the pump tool. Will save me some annoying fabrication
Messages In This Thread
Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-19-2016, 03:58 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by R-3350 - 09-19-2016, 08:53 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-20-2016, 03:11 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by dieselaron - 09-20-2016, 09:12 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-21-2016, 03:10 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by R-3350 - 09-21-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-21-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by R-3350 - 09-21-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-22-2016, 11:31 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-22-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-22-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-22-2016, 04:47 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by R-3350 - 09-22-2016, 07:55 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by SurfRodder - 09-22-2016, 08:04 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-23-2016, 07:07 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-23-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-23-2016, 01:14 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 09-23-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 09-27-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Hario' - 09-30-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-02-2016, 03:48 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-02-2016, 12:52 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by starynovy - 10-02-2016, 03:52 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-03-2016, 02:32 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by R-3350 - 10-03-2016, 04:09 PM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-04-2016, 06:28 AM
RE: Long project: injection pump phaser. - by SurfRodder - 10-12-2016, 03:25 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-12-2016, 12:32 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by hooblah - 10-19-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-19-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 11-04-2016, 02:36 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by SurfRodder - 11-04-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 11-04-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 12-07-2016, 06:56 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 12-07-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 12-08-2016, 03:43 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 12-09-2016, 03:58 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Tobulus - 12-08-2016, 08:30 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 12-08-2016, 10:42 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 02-12-2017, 04:08 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by SurfRodder - 02-12-2017, 07:17 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 02-14-2017, 02:32 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by baldur - 02-15-2017, 05:42 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Anjay1 - 02-15-2017, 10:05 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 02-16-2017, 01:03 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by EvoPeter - 08-17-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 08-18-2017, 10:05 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 10-05-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 10-07-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Simpler=Better - 10-23-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by starynovy - 01-15-2018, 09:21 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-15-2018, 03:10 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by starynovy - 01-15-2018, 05:09 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-16-2018, 03:59 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by starynovy - 01-17-2018, 10:32 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-17-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by starynovy - 01-18-2018, 05:11 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-18-2018, 06:55 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 01-24-2018, 05:51 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-25-2018, 01:02 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 01-25-2018, 03:09 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-25-2018, 03:19 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 01-25-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Turbo - 01-26-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 01-28-2018, 10:57 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by atypicalguy - 11-21-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by atypicalguy - 11-21-2019, 08:17 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by baldur - 01-26-2018, 11:42 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 01-28-2018, 10:37 AM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by Evgeniy1987 - 03-02-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: Long project: ELITE. ELectronical Injection Timing Enhancement. - by SurfRodder - 09-21-2019, 11:49 AM
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