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Oil cooler stripped threads!

Oil cooler stripped threads!

 
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EmJay
Holset

299
07-14-2016, 09:35 PM #1
Help!  I was doing a routine oil change and decided to replace my oil cooler hoses as they were leaking pretty bad.  I took the two fittings off the filter housing OK, and the lower fitting on the colder no problem.  The upper one though was harder to turn though and I found out why.  Gotta love it when previous owner cross threads an important connection.
[Image: IMG_20160714_222009928_zpsi8nqq4l2.jpg]

So my question, is the fitting in the cooler a serviceable fitting (IE replaceable) or do I need to source another cooler?  There are two 300Ds in my PaP weight the coolers in place.
This post was last modified: 07-14-2016, 09:36 PM by EmJay.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-14-2016, 09:35 PM #1

Help!  I was doing a routine oil change and decided to replace my oil cooler hoses as they were leaking pretty bad.  I took the two fittings off the filter housing OK, and the lower fitting on the colder no problem.  The upper one though was harder to turn though and I found out why.  Gotta love it when previous owner cross threads an important connection.
[Image: IMG_20160714_222009928_zpsi8nqq4l2.jpg]

So my question, is the fitting in the cooler a serviceable fitting (IE replaceable) or do I need to source another cooler?  There are two 300Ds in my PaP weight the coolers in place.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
07-14-2016, 11:16 PM #2
I had this same problem recently,

I took the steel fitting out of the oil filter housing on my spare engine and got a machine shop to cut the cooler threads off and tap the hole 18x1.5.

Bingo fixed. My cooler still sitting in the back seat of my toyota since I picked it up though Wink


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
07-14-2016, 11:16 PM #2

I had this same problem recently,

I took the steel fitting out of the oil filter housing on my spare engine and got a machine shop to cut the cooler threads off and tap the hole 18x1.5.

Bingo fixed. My cooler still sitting in the back seat of my toyota since I picked it up though Wink



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




EmJay
Holset

299
07-15-2016, 05:26 AM #3
At the threaded fitting in the cooler comes out easily? I was afraid to try and to mess it up worse. Guess I can get just the fitting from a junkyard part then.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-15-2016, 05:26 AM #3

At the threaded fitting in the cooler comes out easily? I was afraid to try and to mess it up worse. Guess I can get just the fitting from a junkyard part then.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

EmJay
Holset

299
07-15-2016, 09:18 PM #4
Ok so I got lucky as hell, it looks worse than it is. I was able to chase the threads with a thread file, and clean the stripped material from the nut. Goes on hand tight easy now. Wondering if I should use antisieze or JB weld. I know the next time that cooler line comes off that fitting probably will need replacing.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-15-2016, 09:18 PM #4

Ok so I got lucky as hell, it looks worse than it is. I was able to chase the threads with a thread file, and clean the stripped material from the nut. Goes on hand tight easy now. Wondering if I should use antisieze or JB weld. I know the next time that cooler line comes off that fitting probably will need replacing.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
07-16-2016, 12:58 AM #5
Ah, well then. Hopefully it holds together...something like that wouldn't hurt


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
07-16-2016, 12:58 AM #5

Ah, well then. Hopefully it holds together...something like that wouldn't hurt



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
07-16-2016, 04:43 PM #6
Just get the large sized tap and die kit from Norther Tool and run a die over it. That will clean up the threads.

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
07-16-2016, 04:43 PM #6

Just get the large sized tap and die kit from Norther Tool and run a die over it. That will clean up the threads.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

EmJay
Holset

299
07-16-2016, 10:28 PM #7
Any chance you know the thread size and pitch? Might be something that I look at the next oil change. I put the car back together today, I used antisieze on all the threads. Everything went on tight and no leaks! Now to figure out my weird vibration issue when/after braking. Keeping an eye on it over the next several days, put ~50 miles on it today without issue.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-16-2016, 10:28 PM #7

Any chance you know the thread size and pitch? Might be something that I look at the next oil change. I put the car back together today, I used antisieze on all the threads. Everything went on tight and no leaks! Now to figure out my weird vibration issue when/after braking. Keeping an eye on it over the next several days, put ~50 miles on it today without issue.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

Austincarnut
Holset

298
07-17-2016, 04:07 PM #8
(07-16-2016, 10:28 PM)i have  spares if you want another cooler EmJay Any chance you know the thread size and pitch?  Might be something that I look at the next oil change.  I put the car back together today, I used antisieze on all the threads.  Everything went on tight and no leaks!  Now to figure out my weird vibration issue when/after braking.  Keeping an eye on it over the next several days, put ~50 miles on it today without issue.
Austincarnut
07-17-2016, 04:07 PM #8

(07-16-2016, 10:28 PM)i have  spares if you want another cooler EmJay Any chance you know the thread size and pitch?  Might be something that I look at the next oil change.  I put the car back together today, I used antisieze on all the threads.  Everything went on tight and no leaks!  Now to figure out my weird vibration issue when/after braking.  Keeping an eye on it over the next several days, put ~50 miles on it today without issue.

EmJay
Holset

299
07-17-2016, 09:42 PM #9
Might be interested for a later date, I believe that I'm set for now.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-17-2016, 09:42 PM #9

Might be interested for a later date, I believe that I'm set for now.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
07-24-2016, 08:19 PM #10
I had aluminium barb fittings welded onto mine, works great. No way the hoses could come off

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-24-2016, 08:19 PM #10

I had aluminium barb fittings welded onto mine, works great. No way the hoses could come off


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

EmJay
Holset

299
07-25-2016, 08:58 PM #11
Pleased to say that a few hundred miles later still good on the cooler.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-25-2016, 08:58 PM #11

Pleased to say that a few hundred miles later still good on the cooler.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
07-26-2016, 01:54 PM #12
I don't remember, but I will try to figure it out once the heat wave breaks ... my garage is an oven right now.

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
07-26-2016, 01:54 PM #12

I don't remember, but I will try to figure it out once the heat wave breaks ... my garage is an oven right now.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

EmJay
Holset

299
07-27-2016, 05:35 AM #13
Oh I understand man, it has been 90+ here as well for over 50 days. Glad I have AC in this one

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
07-27-2016, 05:35 AM #13

Oh I understand man, it has been 90+ here as well for over 50 days. Glad I have AC in this one


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

martureo
GTA2056V

92
07-28-2016, 02:57 PM #14
It's a little late now, but in trying to find material to repair a 603 oil cooler I found this gem.

http://peachparts.com/shopforum/members/...apair.html

(you'll need to login to see it)

The jist is that apparently Mercedes was aware of the threads stripping and created a solution. Cut off the threads and drill the hex portion of the oil cooler 21/32 for a M18 x 1.50mm tap. Tap the hole and use MBZ p/n 915013-013002 thread replacement adaptor.

I've called my dealer and the price is ~$5 each.

1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)
martureo
07-28-2016, 02:57 PM #14

It's a little late now, but in trying to find material to repair a 603 oil cooler I found this gem.

http://peachparts.com/shopforum/members/...apair.html

(you'll need to login to see it)

The jist is that apparently Mercedes was aware of the threads stripping and created a solution. Cut off the threads and drill the hex portion of the oil cooler 21/32 for a M18 x 1.50mm tap. Tap the hole and use MBZ p/n 915013-013002 thread replacement adaptor.

I've called my dealer and the price is ~$5 each.


1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)

EmJay
Holset

299
08-01-2016, 09:25 PM #15
Thanks!  This is awesome, and now on this forum we have an answer that is easily searched for.  Great find!

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
08-01-2016, 09:25 PM #15

Thanks!  This is awesome, and now on this forum we have an answer that is easily searched for.  Great find!


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

 
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