Phantom Grip LSD?
Phantom Grip LSD?
i´m currently looking for other options than a welded diff in my w202 "drift car". Since i would like to use it more in daily drive, i have been reading a lot about those Phantom grip LSD convertions.
http://www.carrolatuning.us/domain/carro...grip-2.jpg
I´ve seen that "JTY" of this forum here installed one in his 300SD and was quite happy with it: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...antom+grip
Anyone else here is using it and can tell me if it´s worth, also for drifting? There are so much threads in the internet from people that say it´s great, and others that say "never buy that shit..."
i would like to know how it will work in mercedes diffs, because i dont think i can´t compare a honda diff with a merc one.
so every opinion is welcome
hi guys,
i´m currently looking for other options than a welded diff in my w202 "drift car". Since i would like to use it more in daily drive, i have been reading a lot about those Phantom grip LSD convertions.
http://www.carrolatuning.us/domain/carro...grip-2.jpg
I´ve seen that "JTY" of this forum here installed one in his 300SD and was quite happy with it: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...antom+grip
Anyone else here is using it and can tell me if it´s worth, also for drifting? There are so much threads in the internet from people that say it´s great, and others that say "never buy that shit..."
i would like to know how it will work in mercedes diffs, because i dont think i can´t compare a honda diff with a merc one.
so every opinion is welcome
(06-14-2016, 01:58 AM)Repetitio hi guys,
i´m currently looking for other options than a welded diff in my w202 "drift car". Since i would like to use it more in daily drive, i have been reading a lot about those Phantom grip LSD convertions.
http://www.carrolatuning.us/domain/carro...grip-2.jpg
I´ve seen that "JTY" of this forum here installed one in his 300SD and was quite happy with it: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...antom+grip
Anyone else here is using it and can tell me if it´s worth, also for drifting? There are so much threads in the internet from people that say it´s great, and others that say "never buy that shit..."
i would like to know how it will work in mercedes diffs, because i dont think i can´t compare a honda diff with a merc one.
so every opinion is welcome
I have used one for 3 seasons drifting with an ASD diff. And i use the car on daily basis also.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(06-14-2016, 01:58 AM)Repetitio hi guys,
i´m currently looking for other options than a welded diff in my w202 "drift car". Since i would like to use it more in daily drive, i have been reading a lot about those Phantom grip LSD convertions.
http://www.carrolatuning.us/domain/carro...grip-2.jpg
I´ve seen that "JTY" of this forum here installed one in his 300SD and was quite happy with it: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...antom+grip
Anyone else here is using it and can tell me if it´s worth, also for drifting? There are so much threads in the internet from people that say it´s great, and others that say "never buy that shit..."
i would like to know how it will work in mercedes diffs, because i dont think i can´t compare a honda diff with a merc one.
so every opinion is welcome
I have used one for 3 seasons drifting with an ASD diff. And i use the car on daily basis also.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
Think it's a whole different story with an open diff. ASD is like a LSD already but has no springs just hydraulics
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
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www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.
If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
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www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.
(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
bruno_pinho
06-16-2016, 12:23 PM #8(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
(06-16-2016, 12:23 PM)bruno_pinho(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
Rear cover might be different but you can use current one. W210 diff can be used in W201/124 for sure.
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www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.
(06-16-2016, 12:23 PM)bruno_pinho(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
Rear cover might be different but you can use current one. W210 diff can be used in W201/124 for sure.
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www.elbe.ee - MB performance parts.
(06-16-2016, 03:31 PM)hents99I have w210 diff in my w202.....(06-16-2016, 12:23 PM)bruno_pinho(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
Rear cover might be different but you can use current one. W210 diff can be used in W201/124 for sure.
bruno_pinho
06-16-2016, 04:14 PM #10(06-16-2016, 03:31 PM)hents99I have w210 diff in my w202.....(06-16-2016, 12:23 PM)bruno_pinho(06-16-2016, 09:37 AM)hents99 If you install this piece into ASD/LSD differential then you have good LSD.
You can use W201/124 ASD diff with your W202. Bolt-on conversion.
W124 asd diff is direct application in w202?
Rear cover might be different but you can use current one. W210 diff can be used in W201/124 for sure.
![[Image: ASD_01.jpg]](http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_diffs/185mm/ASD_01.jpg)
W124 big ASD diff (162kW+models). 210mm ring gear?
![[Image: 164422d1251377903-lsd-c43-almost-124-3.06-asd.jpg]](http://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c36-amg-c43-amg-w202/164422d1251377903-lsd-c43-almost-124-3.06-asd.jpg)
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This is small W124 ASD diff. W201 ASD is same except diff cover plate. W210/202 most models use same size.
W124 big ASD diff (162kW+models). 210mm ring gear?
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Thanks anyway for your help guys
bruno_pinho
06-20-2016, 08:01 AM #15In w202 speed sinal is not the rear wheels....my w202 in dyno teste dont have speedo because the front wheels are stopped...
2,87 is very common with W210s, though (but without ABS sensor, so of limited use for 124 chassis).
DiseaselWeasel
06-21-2016, 12:23 PM #212,88 early, 2,87 later 300D (non-turbo) atomatic sedan only (wagon has 3,07)!
2,87 is very common with W210s, though (but without ABS sensor, so of limited use for 124 chassis).
bruno_pinho
06-22-2016, 12:19 PM #23I use in my W202 a diff of W210 2.87 185mm,as I can only find 2.65 asd diff and how are the two 185mm,I can change the final drive 2.87 for ASD diff?
(06-22-2016, 12:19 PM)bruno_pinho I use in my W202 a diff of W210 2.87 185mm,as I can only find 2.65 asd diff and how are the two 185mm,I can change the final drive 2.87 for ASD diff?
No, different ratios have different gear offset, I wanted to put ASD from 3.07 to 2.65 but it didn't fit.
![[Image: IMG_5011_zpsaff0f7ca.jpg]](http://s236.photobucket.com/user/erx000/media/Mercedes/IMG_5011_zpsaff0f7ca.jpg.html)
The housing where it is fixed to the Rear Axle mount just broke... Now i´m trying to get an ASD an convert it to lock it manually. For infos see:
www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W124/ASD_Differential_Retrofit.pdf
What do you guys think, originally those ASD diffs only locked up about 30 km/h. Will i break anything in the differential (like lamellar or anything) if i´m locking it up at higher speed and drifting it?
I´ve read about a lot of finish people using this manual locking for drifting. Maybe anyone here can tell his experience with that?
i would be very thankfull for opinions
Ok i finally broke my Welded diff The housing where it is fixed to the Rear Axle mount just broke... Now i´m trying to get an ASD an convert it to lock it manually.
For infos see:
www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W124/ASD_Differential_Retrofit.pdf
What do you guys think, originally those ASD diffs only locked up about 30 km/h. Will i break anything in the differential (like lamellar or anything) if i´m locking it up at higher speed and drifting it?
I´ve read about a lot of finish people using this manual locking for drifting. Maybe anyone here can tell his experience with that?
i would be very thankfull for opinions
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