STD Tuning Suspension How much does cutting w123 spring really ruin the ride?

How much does cutting w123 spring really ruin the ride?

How much does cutting w123 spring really ruin the ride?

 
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Dark Hawk
TA 0301

51
04-13-2016, 09:26 AM #1
The title, how bad is it really? Especially with brand new shocks? How muc does the number of coils effect this? Thanks.

1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler
Dark Hawk
04-13-2016, 09:26 AM #1

The title, how bad is it really? Especially with brand new shocks? How muc does the number of coils effect this? Thanks.


1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler

whipplem104
Holset

559
04-14-2016, 08:48 PM #2
depends,
I put an om602 in mine and the car did not even drop an 1".
I cut a few coils off to get the ride height in range and did a little drop while I was at it. It is stiff for sure. I mean pretty stiff. But I also have 17' wheels and it is fine except harsh bumps. Like cracks in the road.
whipplem104
04-14-2016, 08:48 PM #2

depends,
I put an om602 in mine and the car did not even drop an 1".
I cut a few coils off to get the ride height in range and did a little drop while I was at it. It is stiff for sure. I mean pretty stiff. But I also have 17' wheels and it is fine except harsh bumps. Like cracks in the road.

Dark Hawk
TA 0301

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04-15-2016, 10:22 AM #3
Ya I got a pm from another member with stock wheel size who cut 2 coils, got decent drop, and said the ride really didn't change a whole lot so idk. The previous owner of mine replaced the suspension 15k and I don't plan on putting on anything bigger than 15" wheels. Based on your response, the pm, and what I've read on other forums I'm thinking 2-2.5 coils. Thanks

1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler
Dark Hawk
04-15-2016, 10:22 AM #3

Ya I got a pm from another member with stock wheel size who cut 2 coils, got decent drop, and said the ride really didn't change a whole lot so idk. The previous owner of mine replaced the suspension 15k and I don't plan on putting on anything bigger than 15" wheels. Based on your response, the pm, and what I've read on other forums I'm thinking 2-2.5 coils. Thanks


1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
04-15-2016, 11:20 AM #4
I did 1.5 on mine if I remember right and it didn't change much. Cut some and then see how it is. You can always cut more off later, but it's much harder to put the cut pieces back on Wink



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
04-15-2016, 11:20 AM #4

I did 1.5 on mine if I remember right and it didn't change much. Cut some and then see how it is. You can always cut more off later, but it's much harder to put the cut pieces back on Wink




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

Sultzi
GT2256V

102
04-16-2016, 03:44 AM #5
I bought new set of 300diesel front springs and harder rear springs and cutted them to lenght I wanted and with them I had GAZ adjustable shocks. It was stiff, but not too much for a dailydriver. Front I took maybe 3 or 4 coils out, don't remember back.. This was with 16" wheels..

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Sultzi
04-16-2016, 03:44 AM #5

I bought new set of 300diesel front springs and harder rear springs and cutted them to lenght I wanted and with them I had GAZ adjustable shocks. It was stiff, but not too much for a dailydriver. Front I took maybe 3 or 4 coils out, don't remember back.. This was with 16" wheels..

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raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
04-17-2016, 08:45 AM #6
Do you have shorter shocks, Sultzi?
raysorenson
04-17-2016, 08:45 AM #6

Do you have shorter shocks, Sultzi?

Sultzi
GT2256V

102
04-17-2016, 10:39 AM #7
I think they were maybe 30 to 50mm shorter, custom made gaz (just needed to do mounts to the shocks to front and rear for the control arms).
Sultzi
04-17-2016, 10:39 AM #7

I think they were maybe 30 to 50mm shorter, custom made gaz (just needed to do mounts to the shocks to front and rear for the control arms).

Dark Hawk
TA 0301

51
04-18-2016, 12:00 PM #8
Thanks, this really helps

1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler
Dark Hawk
04-18-2016, 12:00 PM #8

Thanks, this really helps


1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler

EmJay
Holset

299
04-18-2016, 12:52 PM #9
Looks good lowered in the above pic. Might just have to do this myself

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
04-18-2016, 12:52 PM #9

Looks good lowered in the above pic. Might just have to do this myself


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

Dark Hawk
TA 0301

51
04-18-2016, 03:12 PM #10
No doubt it looks great but how bad has tire wear and your oil pan been?

1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler
Dark Hawk
04-18-2016, 03:12 PM #10

No doubt it looks great but how bad has tire wear and your oil pan been?


1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler

Sultzi
GT2256V

102
04-19-2016, 10:08 AM #11
Broke one oil pan, clearance was pretty low from it. And it had om606 st under the hood which I mounted as low as possible.

Tire wear was pretty bad at the back due the big camber (and maybe little bit from the torque too Big Grin). Here you can see the tire (which I already had turned around on the wheel to get little bit more smoke out of it Wink )
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Sultzi
04-19-2016, 10:08 AM #11

Broke one oil pan, clearance was pretty low from it. And it had om606 st under the hood which I mounted as low as possible.

Tire wear was pretty bad at the back due the big camber (and maybe little bit from the torque too Big Grin). Here you can see the tire (which I already had turned around on the wheel to get little bit more smoke out of it Wink )
[Image: _medium.jpg]

Dark Hawk
TA 0301

51
04-20-2016, 08:03 AM #12
Holy shit that's bad! Is that on the front or rear because I heard that you can't adjust the rear camber and if it is the front did you get an alignment after cutting the springs?

1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler
Dark Hawk
04-20-2016, 08:03 AM #12

Holy shit that's bad! Is that on the front or rear because I heard that you can't adjust the rear camber and if it is the front did you get an alignment after cutting the springs?


1984 300d 132k restormod project in the works
1985 300td 300k $600 off road adventure project
1999 land cruiser  235k, 33" mud tires, off road, towing, hauler

Keino
GT2256V

151
04-20-2016, 08:51 AM #13
(04-20-2016, 08:03 AM)Dark Hawk Holy shit that's bad! Is that on the front or rear


It's the rear
Keino
04-20-2016, 08:51 AM #13

(04-20-2016, 08:03 AM)Dark Hawk Holy shit that's bad! Is that on the front or rear


It's the rear

Sultzi
GT2256V

102
04-23-2016, 02:41 AM #14
Yeah, that's the rear, which I have turned around to get little bit more smoke out of it. One slice did came off while making rolling burnout which you can see Big Grin

Front end had aligment done after lowering, but I did leave there maybe -1 to -1.5 degrees of camber. Front end did wear little bit the inside of the tyre, but nothing bad.

The rear had maybe -3degrees camber Tongue There isn't adjustment from the factory, but of course if you modify the control arm mounting points it's possible.
This post was last modified: 04-23-2016, 02:43 AM by Sultzi.
Sultzi
04-23-2016, 02:41 AM #14

Yeah, that's the rear, which I have turned around to get little bit more smoke out of it. One slice did came off while making rolling burnout which you can see Big Grin

Front end had aligment done after lowering, but I did leave there maybe -1 to -1.5 degrees of camber. Front end did wear little bit the inside of the tyre, but nothing bad.

The rear had maybe -3degrees camber Tongue There isn't adjustment from the factory, but of course if you modify the control arm mounting points it's possible.

 
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