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ZF vs. Vickers power steering pump

ZF vs. Vickers power steering pump

 
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Evenglass
GT2256V

149
06-27-2015, 08:02 PM #1
So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?
Evenglass
06-27-2015, 08:02 PM #1

So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-28-2015, 07:13 PM #2
Who cares if there is that many in the junk yard.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-28-2015, 07:13 PM #2

Who cares if there is that many in the junk yard.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Evenglass
GT2256V

149
06-28-2015, 07:53 PM #3
(06-28-2015, 07:13 PM)TurboTim Who cares if there is that many in the junk yard.

Wow. Troll much? Thank you for taking the time to post such a meaningful and enlightening response Tim, or should I call you Lance? 
Evenglass
06-28-2015, 07:53 PM #3

(06-28-2015, 07:13 PM)TurboTim Who cares if there is that many in the junk yard.

Wow. Troll much? Thank you for taking the time to post such a meaningful and enlightening response Tim, or should I call you Lance? 

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-28-2015, 09:44 PM #4
Not sure who Lance is but just really asking what the point is? Is there something that can be better with the pumps? Only MB pump I have ever had fail is a tandem ABC pump.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-28-2015, 09:44 PM #4

Not sure who Lance is but just really asking what the point is? Is there something that can be better with the pumps? Only MB pump I have ever had fail is a tandem ABC pump.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

carlitosgy6
Ranger Turbodiesel

144
06-28-2015, 09:51 PM #5
(06-27-2015, 08:02 PM)Evenglass So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?

Hey let me know where is that junkyard because i need some parts for my om617 grand cherokee, specially the high pressure power steering hose
carlitosgy6
06-28-2015, 09:51 PM #5

(06-27-2015, 08:02 PM)Evenglass So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?

Hey let me know where is that junkyard because i need some parts for my om617 grand cherokee, specially the high pressure power steering hose

carlitosgy6
Ranger Turbodiesel

144
06-28-2015, 09:55 PM #6
Tomorrow i will let you know which pump i have installed on my ranger, is a cast iron unit, its developing an small leak but still doing fine for such an old pump, i had one made from aluminum that didn't lasted too long but remember they are old already
carlitosgy6
06-28-2015, 09:55 PM #6

Tomorrow i will let you know which pump i have installed on my ranger, is a cast iron unit, its developing an small leak but still doing fine for such an old pump, i had one made from aluminum that didn't lasted too long but remember they are old already

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
06-29-2015, 06:50 AM #7
Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences. I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering. I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes. If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
06-29-2015, 06:50 AM #7

Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences. I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering. I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes. If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

Evenglass
GT2256V

149
06-29-2015, 09:29 AM #8
(06-28-2015, 09:51 PM)carlitosgy6
(06-27-2015, 08:02 PM)Evenglass So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?

Hey let me know where is that junkyard because i need some parts for my om617 grand cherokee, specially the high pressure power steering hose

LQK in Brandon.  Some good ones there now, better get on it quick as the rotate inventory monthly. Also check the V8 Mercedes of the same year as the used the same pumps. Let me know and I'll go with you. They may be having half off day for the 4th.
Evenglass
06-29-2015, 09:29 AM #8

(06-28-2015, 09:51 PM)carlitosgy6
(06-27-2015, 08:02 PM)Evenglass So went to the Junkyard today and found 3 om617.952, 1 om617 na,   1 240d non-turbo,  1 om603 and 1 om606 na.  I swear Florida is the meca for these things. Anyways among other things I pulled 2 82bar power steering pumps, 1 ZF and 1 Vickers. My question is which one of these are better? Parts more avaliable for one than the other?

Hey let me know where is that junkyard because i need some parts for my om617 grand cherokee, specially the high pressure power steering hose

LQK in Brandon.  Some good ones there now, better get on it quick as the rotate inventory monthly. Also check the V8 Mercedes of the same year as the used the same pumps. Let me know and I'll go with you. They may be having half off day for the 4th.

Evenglass
GT2256V

149
06-29-2015, 09:53 AM #9
(06-29-2015, 06:50 AM)Greazzer Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.  

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences.  I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering.  I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes.  If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.

Thank you for the info. I have the om617.952 in my Jeep, with 32" tires aired down the 65bar pump struggles offroad. I'm hoping the 82bar pump is a little better, now the question is ZF or Vickers. I've ordered the seal kit for both so I may try both in the end. 
Evenglass
06-29-2015, 09:53 AM #9

(06-29-2015, 06:50 AM)Greazzer Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.  

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences.  I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering.  I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes.  If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.

Thank you for the info. I have the om617.952 in my Jeep, with 32" tires aired down the 65bar pump struggles offroad. I'm hoping the 82bar pump is a little better, now the question is ZF or Vickers. I've ordered the seal kit for both so I may try both in the end. 

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-29-2015, 12:13 PM #10
ZF or Vickers, they are both very reliable.  You shouldn't have any issues with either.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
06-29-2015, 12:13 PM #10

ZF or Vickers, they are both very reliable.  You shouldn't have any issues with either.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
06-29-2015, 03:05 PM #11
(06-29-2015, 09:53 AM)Evenglass
(06-29-2015, 06:50 AM)Greazzer Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.  

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences.  I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering.  I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes.  If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.

Thank you for the info. I have the om617.952 in my Jeep, with 32" tires aired down the 65bar pump struggles offroad. I'm hoping the 82bar pump is a little better, now the question is ZF or Vickers. I've ordered the seal kit for both so I may try both in the end. 

You're welcome !  Now, the challenge is finding the thread on Peachparts ... lol

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
06-29-2015, 03:05 PM #11

(06-29-2015, 09:53 AM)Evenglass
(06-29-2015, 06:50 AM)Greazzer Yes, it's unfortunate to receive a "troll-like" response to a question.  

I think there was a similar post on PeachParts a while back which compared them or at least discussed the differences.  I will try to find it and post the link.

I got rid of power steering altogether and opted for manual steering.  I don't know if the pulleys for the power steering pump varied, id, different sizes.  If you could inspect the sizes, I suspect smaller, even a little, may be better since it will spin the pump more per minute.

Thank you for the info. I have the om617.952 in my Jeep, with 32" tires aired down the 65bar pump struggles offroad. I'm hoping the 82bar pump is a little better, now the question is ZF or Vickers. I've ordered the seal kit for both so I may try both in the end. 

You're welcome !  Now, the challenge is finding the thread on Peachparts ... lol


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

carlitosgy6
Ranger Turbodiesel

144
06-29-2015, 07:27 PM #12
the one on my ranger is a vickers ,it works good but i noticed only one issue,when i go from total left to total right it can get a little hard like is not getting enough flow,i have a rack and pinion maybe thats the issue but has been working for 4 years ,is a cast iron pump,then i have another pump but zf this one lasted only one month but remember they are old pumps
carlitosgy6
06-29-2015, 07:27 PM #12

the one on my ranger is a vickers ,it works good but i noticed only one issue,when i go from total left to total right it can get a little hard like is not getting enough flow,i have a rack and pinion maybe thats the issue but has been working for 4 years ,is a cast iron pump,then i have another pump but zf this one lasted only one month but remember they are old pumps

 
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