W202 OM606 GT2359v+Pro52
W202 OM606 GT2359v+Pro52
02-02-2015, 05:32 PM
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(02-02-2015, 01:19 PM)muurisI was wrong, looked a video from summer and with 2,0bar boost backpressure was 2,9bar, so with 2,5bar boost it was higher. But you didn't try with genuine manifold? You can't compare with stock manifold, it is so small inside, it causes that high backpressure, also little 8cm housing. Stock manifold and small housing is definitely not good combo for 606 STD.(02-02-2015, 05:45 AM)erx Backpressure was 3 bar with hx35 super, don't know with stock turbo but I think it was high.Yeah, I measured at worst 2,3bar backpressure on completely stock OM605 (boost 1,2 bar) so you can only imagine..
Did you have stock exhaust manifold and what turbo did you use with 1,7bar? I think it was a lot bigger than 8cm hx35 super.
(02-02-2015, 08:24 AM)Hario Why not improve wategate-ing to reduce back press?Enlarging wastegate has only little effect on backpressure and exhaust flow. It's like curing the symptoms, not the illness itself.
I had ~380ish horses dynoed with two different self-made manifold, two different turbos (GT37xxV and He351Ve) and two different wastegates. The wastegate was the last upgrade of those, and didn't help with high backpressures/choked exhaust flow. Compressors would have been good for more on both turbos. Then changed the turbo and backpressures dropped around 50%
I was planning biturbo but nut sure which turbos to choose, at the moment I have HX40 with 16 housing, I will try this with custom made manifold. You can see that hx35 super is really small compared to hx40.
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This post was last modified: 02-02-2015, 06:37 PM by erx.
(02-02-2015, 01:19 PM)muurisI was wrong, looked a video from summer and with 2,0bar boost backpressure was 2,9bar, so with 2,5bar boost it was higher. But you didn't try with genuine manifold? You can't compare with stock manifold, it is so small inside, it causes that high backpressure, also little 8cm housing. Stock manifold and small housing is definitely not good combo for 606 STD.(02-02-2015, 05:45 AM)erx Backpressure was 3 bar with hx35 super, don't know with stock turbo but I think it was high.Yeah, I measured at worst 2,3bar backpressure on completely stock OM605 (boost 1,2 bar) so you can only imagine..
Did you have stock exhaust manifold and what turbo did you use with 1,7bar? I think it was a lot bigger than 8cm hx35 super.
(02-02-2015, 08:24 AM)Hario Why not improve wategate-ing to reduce back press?Enlarging wastegate has only little effect on backpressure and exhaust flow. It's like curing the symptoms, not the illness itself.
I had ~380ish horses dynoed with two different self-made manifold, two different turbos (GT37xxV and He351Ve) and two different wastegates. The wastegate was the last upgrade of those, and didn't help with high backpressures/choked exhaust flow. Compressors would have been good for more on both turbos. Then changed the turbo and backpressures dropped around 50%
I was planning biturbo but nut sure which turbos to choose, at the moment I have HX40 with 16 housing, I will try this with custom made manifold. You can see that hx35 super is really small compared to hx40.
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W202 OM606 GT2359v+Pro52 - by erx - 01-31-2015, 07:06 PM
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