240 help
240 help
...p.s. it has an hx35 on it lol
blankman812
09-18-2014, 07:24 AM #1Hello guys and if there are gals im new to the Mercedes world well I have had my car for about a year but new ti the mods I just got a truck so I am currently mid project with the car it is an 82 240d now I have read that its not a smart idea to put a charger on them but I never said I was smart now im looking for some tips and parts to further my build and the least amount of disapproval as possible this is something I love I am a huge diesel fan and I just want to make my car more powerful and obnoxious right now I have made a turbo mani and intake I have it all plumbed up and functional but I need more fuel and the timing jumped I am just looking for some input tips and assistance finding parts thanks for reading.
...p.s. it has an hx35 on it lol
Stevo-trendy
09-18-2014, 08:00 AM #2These 240d engines the same they fitted into tho t1 vans ? Came in a 4 & 5 cylinder engine as well didn't they ?
(09-18-2014, 07:24 AM)blankman812 Hello guys and if there are gals im new to the Mercedes world well I have had my car for about a year but new ti the mods I just got a truck so I am currently mid project with the car it is an 82 240d now I have read that its not a smart idea to put a charger on them but I never said I was smart now im looking for some tips and parts to further my build and the least amount of disapproval as possible this is something I love I am a huge diesel fan and I just want to make my car more powerful and obnoxious right now I have made a turbo mani and intake I have it all plumbed up and functional but I need more fuel and the timing jumped I am just looking for some input tips and assistance finding parts thanks for reading.
...p.s. it has an hx35 on it lol
Just install an EGT gauge and keep an eye on your EGTs. These engines have no oil cooling nozzles for the pistons so try to keep you EGTs below 550 *C (1000*F)
hx35 ??? That thing will take forever to spool. Far too big for your power level
You won't be getting more than 110 HP , not with the stock pump.
(09-18-2014, 08:00 AM)Stevo-trendy These 240d engines the same they fitted into tho t1 vans ? Came in a 4 & 5 cylinder engine as well didn't they ?
Yes OM616 2.4D I4 72 HP and OM617 3.0D I5 88HP. There are a couple of differences between car and van versions (different oil filter housing, intake manifold, no PS pump on the van versions etc.)
(09-18-2014, 07:24 AM)blankman812 Hello guys and if there are gals im new to the Mercedes world well I have had my car for about a year but new ti the mods I just got a truck so I am currently mid project with the car it is an 82 240d now I have read that its not a smart idea to put a charger on them but I never said I was smart now im looking for some tips and parts to further my build and the least amount of disapproval as possible this is something I love I am a huge diesel fan and I just want to make my car more powerful and obnoxious right now I have made a turbo mani and intake I have it all plumbed up and functional but I need more fuel and the timing jumped I am just looking for some input tips and assistance finding parts thanks for reading.
...p.s. it has an hx35 on it lol
Just install an EGT gauge and keep an eye on your EGTs. These engines have no oil cooling nozzles for the pistons so try to keep you EGTs below 550 *C (1000*F)
hx35 ??? That thing will take forever to spool. Far too big for your power level
You won't be getting more than 110 HP , not with the stock pump.
(09-18-2014, 08:00 AM)Stevo-trendy These 240d engines the same they fitted into tho t1 vans ? Came in a 4 & 5 cylinder engine as well didn't they ?
Yes OM616 2.4D I4 72 HP and OM617 3.0D I5 88HP. There are a couple of differences between car and van versions (different oil filter housing, intake manifold, no PS pump on the van versions etc.)
blankman812
09-18-2014, 02:44 PM #5I have a purpose for it im wondering about max psi it can take and I don't expect major horse power it was a free turbo and Where can I locate larger injectors or nozzles for the car
the real power will come from changing elements in your IP. if you have a MW good luck, there has been no real proven elements for it, though dieselmeken has been working on 8mm, and theres some 10mm volvos one that fit. if you have a M pump there are many elements available.
btw, here a great write up on our pumps, done by OM616
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkAv...y=CJXuhs0I
Dnosd315 nozzles are the biggest you can get for these injectors as far as i know. Great to see more turbo 240's being done. i dont think you'll have an issue with longevity if you treat it nice and watch your egt. btw i dont think piston oiling is necessary at all. sure its nice but i can name a huge list of oem and aftermarket turbo engines that dont have it. in fact the only 2 i can think of is om617 and 4g63t, but im sure there are more.
the real power will come from changing elements in your IP. if you have a MW good luck, there has been no real proven elements for it, though dieselmeken has been working on 8mm, and theres some 10mm volvos one that fit. if you have a M pump there are many elements available.
btw, here a great write up on our pumps, done by OM616
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkAv...y=CJXuhs0I
blankman812
09-18-2014, 08:13 PM #7Thanks for the info do you know where I can locate the injectors and how do I determine the pump style is it an obvious thing and are the elements something you can change on your own or are they done in a shop
blankman812
09-19-2014, 06:21 AM #9Thank you for the information I am gonna see if I can get ahold of this gut to get some injectors and find out more info on the elements
Ed
yankneck696
09-19-2014, 07:32 PM #10There is no way at all that you are going to spool the HX35. It just will not happen. I had an IHI turbo on my 240D engine from a Ford Probe.
Ed
blankman812
09-21-2014, 09:23 AM #11well I drove the car last night for the first time while putting out a whopping 3 psi and blowing oil all over the car I had bad oil seals I am now thinking of building a nice compound setup mainly just because I want some function out of the car and it will look ratty mind you I am driving a car that is completely rusted from the window line down no hood and slammed to the ground this is a euro trash ride im not looking to build a drag car or go all crazy its just a car to show off when im feeling ratty
english red rat rod 1977 240D, OM617.952 burning B99.9, iron 4-speed & 2.88 diff, 195/60/R14 on alloys, 5mph bumpers, battery in the trunk, 25mm swaybar, 4x ECE H4 lamps, double brake lamps, deleted sunroof, export zoll & california blue plates
you will have no problem trading the hx35 for a garrett! hey!
english red rat rod 1977 240D, OM617.952 burning B99.9, iron 4-speed & 2.88 diff, 195/60/R14 on alloys, 5mph bumpers, battery in the trunk, 25mm swaybar, 4x ECE H4 lamps, double brake lamps, deleted sunroof, export zoll & california blue plates
blankman812
01-31-2015, 07:17 PM #15I can't find any of these nozzels on eBay can anyone help me I need some larger injectors
Ed
yankneck696
02-01-2015, 09:17 AM #16I had a SMALL turbo from a Ford Probe. It was an IHI, but can't remember all the numbers. With some pump tweaking, it ran respectably in a 6WD Samurai. In all actuality, it ran surprisingly well.
Ed
I am going to upgrade to a GT2256 for the 10mm elements, if I can ever get to building the pump calibration machine lol…
I would recommend the GT2056 But!!! you have to run a oil pressure regulator to it or you will blow the seals!!! The max supply pressure spec I saw was 30 or 40 PSI, and the 61X engines will produce 100+PSI at times..
I really liked the GT2056 on my tuned up 616. I was able to set the vanes in a fixed position and got more boost then EMP and it would max out at around 20PSI boost with 5.5mm elements and the governor tuned, and I started getting boost right off idle, it really brought the thing to life.
I am going to upgrade to a GT2256 for the 10mm elements, if I can ever get to building the pump calibration machine lol…
I would recommend the GT2056 But!!! you have to run a oil pressure regulator to it or you will blow the seals!!! The max supply pressure spec I saw was 30 or 40 PSI, and the 61X engines will produce 100+PSI at times..
blankman812
02-01-2015, 09:29 PM #18I checked today its an mw pump and I need more fuel I can't find the nozzels and its almost spring I'm ready to get her out of the garage and start breaking necks
blankman812
01-20-2016, 09:08 AM #19Hey guys it's been a long time time for an update I am about to send my mw pump to a local shop and he said he can do some work he is gonna try elements and check on some other things he said I'm looking at 500-900$ depending on the work that is balanced and all so when I get it back I will give the full specs and changes and the power increase
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