STD Tuning Engine Monarch vs 315 injectors

Monarch vs 315 injectors

Monarch vs 315 injectors

 
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85-300D
TA 0301

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09-11-2014, 12:11 PM #1
I need to rebuild my injectors and I am not sure if I should go with the monarchs or the 315s. I have done some searching and found that the 315's flow about 15% more than the stock nozzles. I would like to go with something that makes a little more power if possible.

The monarchs have good feedback for running smooth and clean. I haven't found any feedback on anyone who has run the 315s. Right now I am leaning toward the 315s due to the additional power potential, but just want to be sure that they will run "good" and not be too smoky.

Also, anyone have a good source for the 315s, or a part number?

"Rusty" 85 300D
85-300D
09-11-2014, 12:11 PM #1

I need to rebuild my injectors and I am not sure if I should go with the monarchs or the 315s. I have done some searching and found that the 315's flow about 15% more than the stock nozzles. I would like to go with something that makes a little more power if possible.

The monarchs have good feedback for running smooth and clean. I haven't found any feedback on anyone who has run the 315s. Right now I am leaning toward the 315s due to the additional power potential, but just want to be sure that they will run "good" and not be too smoky.

Also, anyone have a good source for the 315s, or a part number?


"Rusty" 85 300D

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
09-11-2014, 02:01 PM #2
PM greazzer, he's the resident injector guru

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
09-11-2014, 02:01 PM #2

PM greazzer, he's the resident injector guru


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

street_666
Hx55

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09-12-2014, 05:28 AM #3
what a monarch? what's the model / company?
street_666
09-12-2014, 05:28 AM #3

what a monarch? what's the model / company?

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
09-12-2014, 06:05 AM #4
Monark ..http://www.monark-automotive.com/en/products/injection-equipment/
Most likely a typo. Monark merged with DES or vice versa, but I understand the company still goes by "Monark"

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Greazzer
09-12-2014, 06:05 AM #4

Monark ..http://www.monark-automotive.com/en/products/injection-equipment/
Most likely a typo. Monark merged with DES or vice versa, but I understand the company still goes by "Monark"


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

kahlil88
Naturally-aspirated

20
09-12-2014, 09:07 PM #5
Monark is the manufacturer and 315 is the original Bosch number for the nozzle. They supposedly have an improved spray pattern. Bosio is also very popular, but I am told both are better than new Bosch nozzles, which are made in India.

1985 190D, 176k miles
1983 300D, 208k miles
kahlil88
09-12-2014, 09:07 PM #5

Monark is the manufacturer and 315 is the original Bosch number for the nozzle. They supposedly have an improved spray pattern. Bosio is also very popular, but I am told both are better than new Bosch nozzles, which are made in India.


1985 190D, 176k miles
1983 300D, 208k miles

Volker407
naturally aspirated

157
09-13-2014, 02:33 AM #6
(09-12-2014, 09:07 PM)kahlil88 Monark is the manufacturer and 315 is the original Bosch number for the nozzle. They supposedly have an improved spray pattern. Bosio is also very popular, but I am told both are better than new Bosch nozzles, which are made in India.

The Bosch nozzles are still top-notch! But don´t expect to get an original top quality nozzle from a 10$ ebay "special offer"....

If you ask me Bosio is not the best there is. Monark is better.

Gruß
Volker
Volker407
09-13-2014, 02:33 AM #6

(09-12-2014, 09:07 PM)kahlil88 Monark is the manufacturer and 315 is the original Bosch number for the nozzle. They supposedly have an improved spray pattern. Bosio is also very popular, but I am told both are better than new Bosch nozzles, which are made in India.

The Bosch nozzles are still top-notch! But don´t expect to get an original top quality nozzle from a 10$ ebay "special offer"....

If you ask me Bosio is not the best there is. Monark is better.

Gruß
Volker

Edian727
Dreams of 8mm 617

127
09-13-2014, 09:44 AM #7
I'd go with the 315's for the performance of 'em. in fact i am going to on my 616. will probably help the pump out too cuz you wont have to crank it up so high, shorter injection all that good stuff.
Edian727
09-13-2014, 09:44 AM #7

I'd go with the 315's for the performance of 'em. in fact i am going to on my 616. will probably help the pump out too cuz you wont have to crank it up so high, shorter injection all that good stuff.

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

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09-13-2014, 02:24 PM #8
Well stock nozzle number I believe is DNOSD265 or some such, the DNOSD315 nozzles have potential to flow more fuel but unless your pump is putting out more fuel there won't be much if any difference in performance.

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
09-13-2014, 02:24 PM #8

Well stock nozzle number I believe is DNOSD265 or some such, the DNOSD315 nozzles have potential to flow more fuel but unless your pump is putting out more fuel there won't be much if any difference in performance.


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

 
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