STD Tuning Suspension steering box ratios for w123?

steering box ratios for w123?

steering box ratios for w123?

 
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Whizbang
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09-07-2014, 11:21 PM #1
what is the steering like on a w123? any options for performance?
Whizbang
09-07-2014, 11:21 PM #1

what is the steering like on a w123? any options for performance?

swampmonkey
hx40 super

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09-08-2014, 02:08 AM #2
i think you either have with or without powersteering.
two ratios, where the powersteering is quicker...

some people in here are converting to "manual" steering for better feel, but not something i would recommend for "performance"

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swampmonkey
09-08-2014, 02:08 AM #2

i think you either have with or without powersteering.
two ratios, where the powersteering is quicker...

some people in here are converting to "manual" steering for better feel, but not something i would recommend for "performance"


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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
09-08-2014, 11:14 AM #3
Do not underrate the manual steering box. I believe it is far superior. Setting aside getting rid of a pump and the parasitic drag that creates for your engine / HP, the "feel" of the manual box is 100% better than the power option. It does take more effort if you're absolutely sitting still, but once you are rolling, nothing is like it.

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Greazzer
09-08-2014, 11:14 AM #3

Do not underrate the manual steering box. I believe it is far superior. Setting aside getting rid of a pump and the parasitic drag that creates for your engine / HP, the "feel" of the manual box is 100% better than the power option. It does take more effort if you're absolutely sitting still, but once you are rolling, nothing is like it.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

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09-08-2014, 11:17 AM #4
Although I have not personally verified, I heard the 107 steering boxes have a quicker ratio and will bolt on the w123. Only addition you'll need is to get the early w123 steering stops because the 107 box doesn't have one internally.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
09-08-2014, 11:17 AM #4

Although I have not personally verified, I heard the 107 steering boxes have a quicker ratio and will bolt on the w123. Only addition you'll need is to get the early w123 steering stops because the 107 box doesn't have one internally.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
09-08-2014, 11:53 AM #5
The startek WSM does not publish ratios, but it does note "pitch ball circulation". It is the recirculating ball screw pitch that determines the steering gear's ratio. Deduce what you can from the info

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outsi...46-010.pdf
raysorenson
09-08-2014, 11:53 AM #5

The startek WSM does not publish ratios, but it does note "pitch ball circulation". It is the recirculating ball screw pitch that determines the steering gear's ratio. Deduce what you can from the info

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outsi...46-010.pdf

Whizbang
TA 0301

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09-08-2014, 12:32 PM #6
Interesting. The reason i ask is I am building a rally car for fun. Historical, fun, and not competitive. Rally here isnt huge anyway. my other rally car is a 78 rx7. but i got an om602 for what equates to 200€ and plan to use that. only decision is what chassis. w201 w123 coupe or c107. maybe the 108. w201 is the logical choice. w123 is just neat though.
Whizbang
09-08-2014, 12:32 PM #6

Interesting. The reason i ask is I am building a rally car for fun. Historical, fun, and not competitive. Rally here isnt huge anyway. my other rally car is a 78 rx7. but i got an om602 for what equates to 200€ and plan to use that. only decision is what chassis. w201 w123 coupe or c107. maybe the 108. w201 is the logical choice. w123 is just neat though.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
09-08-2014, 12:52 PM #7
Cool.

W201 rally car footage on top gear w/Mika Hakkinen driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmqdnx5R1U

It looks like it's no joke off road.
raysorenson
09-08-2014, 12:52 PM #7

Cool.

W201 rally car footage on top gear w/Mika Hakkinen driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmqdnx5R1U

It looks like it's no joke off road.

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
09-08-2014, 09:59 PM #8
I always thought a w123 coupe lifted a couple inches, big all terrain tires, floodlights everywhere, would be pretty bitchin

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
09-08-2014, 09:59 PM #8

I always thought a w123 coupe lifted a couple inches, big all terrain tires, floodlights everywhere, would be pretty bitchin


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

 
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