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K Van Damme
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07-15-2014, 03:35 PM #1
Hello everyone i m building a om603.960 with a gerret gt2056v from a mb320cdi how much power can it make
It's a new engine for my '90 G wagon

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K Van Damme
07-15-2014, 03:35 PM #1

Hello everyone i m building a om603.960 with a gerret gt2056v from a mb320cdi how much power can it make
It's a new engine for my '90 G wagon

Thanks

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F.R.A.S
Holset

579
07-16-2014, 04:53 AM #2
150hp if you're lucky. But all builds in G-wagons are awesome Big Grin

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F.R.A.S
07-16-2014, 04:53 AM #2

150hp if you're lucky. But all builds in G-wagons are awesome Big Grin


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K Van Damme
Naturally-aspirated

12
07-16-2014, 12:22 PM #3
Are u sure ? Because it makes almost 270hp on my E320cdi with the same turbo
K Van Damme
07-16-2014, 12:22 PM #3

Are u sure ? Because it makes almost 270hp on my E320cdi with the same turbo

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-16-2014, 12:40 PM #4
the turbo from 320CDI is a GT2359V, at least in PT models.
would like to know how u will intend to play the VNT mechanism.
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barrote
07-16-2014, 12:40 PM #4

the turbo from 320CDI is a GT2359V, at least in PT models.
would like to know how u will intend to play the VNT mechanism.
Regards


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K Van Damme
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07-16-2014, 01:26 PM #5
Its a E320 V6 from 2008
K Van Damme
07-16-2014, 01:26 PM #5

Its a E320 V6 from 2008

CRD4x4
CompoundSuperTurboDiesel4x4!

399
07-16-2014, 02:03 PM #6
My 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD 2.8L uses the same GT2056V from factory and only makes 160hp/295ftlb in stock form.
I don't understand how it could make 270hp on a 3.2L.
I've been planning to upgrade to a GT2256V but can't take my daily driver off the road yet.
Have you considered a twin scroll/divided housing to better take advantage of the V6 exhaust gas pulsation?
This post was last modified: 07-16-2014, 02:17 PM by CRD4x4.

'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
CRD4x4
07-16-2014, 02:03 PM #6

My 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD 2.8L uses the same GT2056V from factory and only makes 160hp/295ftlb in stock form.
I don't understand how it could make 270hp on a 3.2L.
I've been planning to upgrade to a GT2256V but can't take my daily driver off the road yet.
Have you considered a twin scroll/divided housing to better take advantage of the V6 exhaust gas pulsation?


'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-17-2014, 06:16 AM #7
320 CDI with 613.XXX or 648.XXX is a GT2359. Wink

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barrote
07-17-2014, 06:16 AM #7

320 CDI with 613.XXX or 648.XXX is a GT2359. Wink


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F.R.A.S
Holset

579
07-17-2014, 05:00 PM #8
A little help for you is this... A turbo that can do 300hp on a commonrail engine will do around 200hp on a IDI engine. That's the hard truth I'm afraid. A gt20 will do about 250hp commonrail. The gt2556v will bring you just over 200hp on an IDI engine.

IDI = InDirectInjection = Prechamer engine.

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F.R.A.S
07-17-2014, 05:00 PM #8

A little help for you is this... A turbo that can do 300hp on a commonrail engine will do around 200hp on a IDI engine. That's the hard truth I'm afraid. A gt20 will do about 250hp commonrail. The gt2556v will bring you just over 200hp on an IDI engine.

IDI = InDirectInjection = Prechamer engine.


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barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-18-2014, 05:05 AM #9
I very surprised u say that!!! my 605 engine runs a stock gt20 and is close to 200hp never measured it, comparing the pull against my 270cdi i can say that.
the IP i have now is putting in only 55cc max fuel. when i solve that matter i´ll see to where the gt20 will reach. have a gt 2256V, and a GT2359V, one of these will go in.
maybe is a barrier of 200 something HP to cross with 5 cyl IDI engines.
regards

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barrote
07-18-2014, 05:05 AM #9

I very surprised u say that!!! my 605 engine runs a stock gt20 and is close to 200hp never measured it, comparing the pull against my 270cdi i can say that.
the IP i have now is putting in only 55cc max fuel. when i solve that matter i´ll see to where the gt20 will reach. have a gt 2256V, and a GT2359V, one of these will go in.
maybe is a barrier of 200 something HP to cross with 5 cyl IDI engines.
regards


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F.R.A.S
Holset

579
07-19-2014, 03:23 PM #10
But it smokes as hell already right? So even with more fuel you will not have any more power. Just more smoke... And yea, I know I'm a bit low on the numbers but that's because I'm always thinking wheel HP Big Grin

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F.R.A.S
07-19-2014, 03:23 PM #10

But it smokes as hell already right? So even with more fuel you will not have any more power. Just more smoke... And yea, I know I'm a bit low on the numbers but that's because I'm always thinking wheel HP Big Grin


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

K Van Damme
Naturally-aspirated

12
07-20-2014, 03:04 PM #11
Thanks for your reply, so 6mm elements Will be enough or should i use 7mm elements to have more torque at low rpm's
K Van Damme
07-20-2014, 03:04 PM #11

Thanks for your reply, so 6mm elements Will be enough or should i use 7mm elements to have more torque at low rpm's

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
07-21-2014, 12:50 PM #12
The bigger the elements, the better. Quicker duration and pumps will not wear out nearly as quick because they are not being pushed to their limits Smile

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-21-2014, 12:50 PM #12

The bigger the elements, the better. Quicker duration and pumps will not wear out nearly as quick because they are not being pushed to their limits Smile


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-25-2014, 04:50 AM #13
(07-19-2014, 03:23 PM)F.R.A.S But it smokes as hell already right? So even with more fuel you will not have any more power. Just more smoke... And yea, I know I'm a bit low on the numbers but that's because I'm always thinking wheel HP Big Grin
Nop , is not smoking yet, and i´m just trying to make it smoke, hardly trying, next week maybe i´ll have it smoking , and when i do i have another funcy stuff to try.
at the moment i´m at 1.2 bar.
numbers, numbers dada ada ...... i´ll tell u nr´s , nrs is watching the táxi drivers with 210 320 cdi up Hill from your 124 rearview mirror, those are nrs Wink

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barrote
07-25-2014, 04:50 AM #13

(07-19-2014, 03:23 PM)F.R.A.S But it smokes as hell already right? So even with more fuel you will not have any more power. Just more smoke... And yea, I know I'm a bit low on the numbers but that's because I'm always thinking wheel HP Big Grin
Nop , is not smoking yet, and i´m just trying to make it smoke, hardly trying, next week maybe i´ll have it smoking , and when i do i have another funcy stuff to try.
at the moment i´m at 1.2 bar.
numbers, numbers dada ada ...... i´ll tell u nr´s , nrs is watching the táxi drivers with 210 320 cdi up Hill from your 124 rearview mirror, those are nrs Wink


FD,
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K Van Damme
Naturally-aspirated

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05-01-2016, 02:54 AM #14
Hi everyone yesterday my engine broke down , it was the stock engine with a turbo setup from a 603.960
And a 7,5mm dieselmeken pump
Next engine will be a 606. Could i compound with the stock turbo from a 606 and a holset hx35 ?
Thanks
K Van Damme
05-01-2016, 02:54 AM #14

Hi everyone yesterday my engine broke down , it was the stock engine with a turbo setup from a 603.960
And a 7,5mm dieselmeken pump
Next engine will be a 606. Could i compound with the stock turbo from a 606 and a holset hx35 ?
Thanks

Tito
Holset

354
05-01-2016, 03:31 AM #15
I was thinking of doing the same once, but you definitely need to bypass the (very) small kkk turbo. Of course exhaust but also intake.
Tito
05-01-2016, 03:31 AM #15

I was thinking of doing the same once, but you definitely need to bypass the (very) small kkk turbo. Of course exhaust but also intake.

starynovy
Holset

338
05-01-2016, 06:13 AM #16
Yes its true, I think IDI engines put out more exhaust gasses or something. We used 2260V which generated on DI engine 185kW and could not get above 140kW on IDI.. it literaly choked engine with EMPs, it did not even pull above 3800RPM.

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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
starynovy
05-01-2016, 06:13 AM #16

Yes its true, I think IDI engines put out more exhaust gasses or something. We used 2260V which generated on DI engine 185kW and could not get above 140kW on IDI.. it literaly choked engine with EMPs, it did not even pull above 3800RPM.


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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW

 
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