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225/50R16 on a w123

225/50R16 on a w123

 
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MFSuper90
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06-26-2014, 12:48 PM #1
Has anyone tried a tire this wide on a w123?
Will it clear okay?

Putting 16's on my w123 and wanting a little wider tire, but don't know how wide I can go.

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MFSuper90
06-26-2014, 12:48 PM #1

Has anyone tried a tire this wide on a w123?
Will it clear okay?

Putting 16's on my w123 and wanting a little wider tire, but don't know how wide I can go.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

sassparilla_kid
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06-26-2014, 03:20 PM #2
I think mine are 225/55 R16 but I could be mistaken, I'll check later and try to get a picture from the front or back to give you an idea

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
06-26-2014, 03:20 PM #2

I think mine are 225/55 R16 but I could be mistaken, I'll check later and try to get a picture from the front or back to give you an idea


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

MFSuper90
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06-26-2014, 04:57 PM #3
Okay cool, I was just going to go with the 225/50 because it keeps it kind of closer to the original tire height to keep my speedo correct.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-26-2014, 04:57 PM #3

Okay cool, I was just going to go with the 225/50 because it keeps it kind of closer to the original tire height to keep my speedo correct.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

sassparilla_kid
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06-26-2014, 11:57 PM #4
My bad, mine are 205/55r16, outside tire diameter is the same as stock and my speedo reads within a couple mph of what the gps on my phone says. So the size you're talking about would be wider, not sure how wide your wheels are. I don't understand tire sizes, why they can't just put wheel diameter, sidewall height, and width, I don't know.

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
06-26-2014, 11:57 PM #4

My bad, mine are 205/55r16, outside tire diameter is the same as stock and my speedo reads within a couple mph of what the gps on my phone says. So the size you're talking about would be wider, not sure how wide your wheels are. I don't understand tire sizes, why they can't just put wheel diameter, sidewall height, and width, I don't know.


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

06-27-2014, 04:03 AM #5
They do Wink 205 = total width, 55 = height of sidewall in percentage of width, R = radial tyre, 16 = wheel diameter. And then the index number for the load rating, p.e. 95 (=690kg), H = 210km/h / 130MPH. Truck tyres are often given the cross-section in inches. P.e. 37X12.5 (37" dia, 12.5" height). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Examples

Tyre code reading is the motorist's algebra Big Grin

205/55 R16
215/55 R16
225/50 R16

^these are the possible 16" tyre sizes for W123s. Depending on the wheel's width. A 225 on a 7" wheel might be a bit hard pressed, a 205 on a 8" wheel is bit stretched and the wheel touches the curb before the tyre Wink

These are 205/55s on a 8" rim:

[Image: 205er-2.jpg]

^they had to be shot on the wheel with a tyre bomb!

205/55 seem to be pretty cheap & available, I'd go with them. 215/55 & 225/50s are expensive, as far as I observed.

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This post was last modified: 06-27-2014, 04:04 AM by DiseaselWeasel.

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DiseaselWeasel
06-27-2014, 04:03 AM #5

They do Wink 205 = total width, 55 = height of sidewall in percentage of width, R = radial tyre, 16 = wheel diameter. And then the index number for the load rating, p.e. 95 (=690kg), H = 210km/h / 130MPH. Truck tyres are often given the cross-section in inches. P.e. 37X12.5 (37" dia, 12.5" height). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Examples

Tyre code reading is the motorist's algebra Big Grin

205/55 R16
215/55 R16
225/50 R16

^these are the possible 16" tyre sizes for W123s. Depending on the wheel's width. A 225 on a 7" wheel might be a bit hard pressed, a 205 on a 8" wheel is bit stretched and the wheel touches the curb before the tyre Wink

These are 205/55s on a 8" rim:

[Image: 205er-2.jpg]

^they had to be shot on the wheel with a tyre bomb!

205/55 seem to be pretty cheap & available, I'd go with them. 215/55 & 225/50s are expensive, as far as I observed.

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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

TKMad
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06-27-2014, 11:00 AM #6
I'm running 205 60r16 on the CLK rims. They will occasionally rub when turning sharp and hitting a bump, but for the most part they are good.
TKMad
06-27-2014, 11:00 AM #6

I'm running 205 60r16 on the CLK rims. They will occasionally rub when turning sharp and hitting a bump, but for the most part they are good.

MFSuper90
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06-28-2014, 02:41 PM #7
I have 7" rims

But I am not much of a fan of the "stretched" look, I like the tire to protect my rim, but just not as much as the stock 14" tires Wink

Pretty sure I am going to go with a 225/50R16 in General G-max tires.
Not too bad on price, and they are suppose to wear very well, plus they look cool Big Grin
This post was last modified: 06-28-2014, 02:57 PM by MFSuper90.

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MFSuper90
06-28-2014, 02:41 PM #7

I have 7" rims

But I am not much of a fan of the "stretched" look, I like the tire to protect my rim, but just not as much as the stock 14" tires Wink

Pretty sure I am going to go with a 225/50R16 in General G-max tires.
Not too bad on price, and they are suppose to wear very well, plus they look cool Big Grin


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
06-28-2014, 03:17 PM #8
They're gonna stick way out on the sides methinks

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
06-28-2014, 03:17 PM #8

They're gonna stick way out on the sides methinks


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

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06-30-2014, 08:38 PM #9
I have googled it, and it doesn't really buldge at all surprisingly, Ill order them this week hopefully and report back!

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-30-2014, 08:38 PM #9

I have googled it, and it doesn't really buldge at all surprisingly, Ill order them this week hopefully and report back!


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

07-02-2014, 07:36 AM #10
On the front it'll be too wide...

Front 7x16 @ 205/55, rear 8x16 @ 225/50:

[Image: 028-mercedes-mercedes-benz-c123-w123-cou...ssiker.jpg]

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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
07-02-2014, 07:36 AM #10

On the front it'll be too wide...

Front 7x16 @ 205/55, rear 8x16 @ 225/50:

[Image: 028-mercedes-mercedes-benz-c123-w123-cou...ssiker.jpg]


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MFSuper90
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07-02-2014, 01:03 PM #11
(07-02-2014, 07:36 AM)DiseaselWeasel On the front it'll be too wide...

Front 7x16 @ 205/55, rear 8x16 @ 225/50:

[Image: 028-mercedes-mercedes-benz-c123-w123-cou...ssiker.jpg]

That car looks good...
Do you know if it is stock ride height? my 300D looks to sit higher than that.
Looking again at that photo I'm almost positive my car sits higher than that 280. But I don't know if it will be enough, those 225's on the back look pretty tight...

Thank you for posting that, I haven't ordered them yet, and Im glad.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-02-2014, 01:03 PM #11

(07-02-2014, 07:36 AM)DiseaselWeasel On the front it'll be too wide...

Front 7x16 @ 205/55, rear 8x16 @ 225/50:

[Image: 028-mercedes-mercedes-benz-c123-w123-cou...ssiker.jpg]

That car looks good...
Do you know if it is stock ride height? my 300D looks to sit higher than that.
Looking again at that photo I'm almost positive my car sits higher than that 280. But I don't know if it will be enough, those 225's on the back look pretty tight...

Thank you for posting that, I haven't ordered them yet, and Im glad.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

07-02-2014, 01:54 PM #12
Lowered, yes. Here's more: http://www.mercedes-fans.de/autoderwoche...80/start=0

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DiseaselWeasel
07-02-2014, 01:54 PM #12

Lowered, yes. Here's more: http://www.mercedes-fans.de/autoderwoche...80/start=0


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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

MFSuper90
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07-04-2014, 11:43 AM #13
Do you think a 225/50 would fit on a non lowered car?
What part rubs on your 280?

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-04-2014, 11:43 AM #13

Do you think a 225/50 would fit on a non lowered car?
What part rubs on your 280?


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

MFSuper90
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07-25-2014, 02:36 PM #14
215/55R16s are in the tire shop, I just have to get them mounted up and make sure they fit!
Pics soon to comeSmile

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-25-2014, 02:36 PM #14

215/55R16s are in the tire shop, I just have to get them mounted up and make sure they fit!
Pics soon to comeSmile


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

MFSuper90
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07-29-2014, 02:39 PM #15
[Image: BAFD8AD5-7002-401E-9BB1-098D12C9781D_zpsxd1il0oa.jpg]

215/55r16
General gmax as-03
16x7 rims, et20 I think?

Clears fine Smile

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-29-2014, 02:39 PM #15

[Image: BAFD8AD5-7002-401E-9BB1-098D12C9781D_zpsxd1il0oa.jpg]

215/55r16
General gmax as-03
16x7 rims, et20 I think?

Clears fine Smile


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

MFSuper90
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07-30-2014, 10:56 AM #16
Well I found out driving on a rough road today, that when the suspension compresses the tire will catch the fender lip. Luckily it only ripped a little rubber off the tire and didn't ruin my brand new tires.

Guess I will soon be learning how to roll a fender!

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-30-2014, 10:56 AM #16

Well I found out driving on a rough road today, that when the suspension compresses the tire will catch the fender lip. Luckily it only ripped a little rubber off the tire and didn't ruin my brand new tires.

Guess I will soon be learning how to roll a fender!


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

DanielK
Big Plans, No Clue

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08-10-2014, 06:10 PM #17
In Vintage Mercedes, fender rolls you.
Those fender lips are made of 10 gauge cold rolled tungsten from what I can tell. Have fun!

[Image: FalkonSig.png]
DanielK
08-10-2014, 06:10 PM #17

In Vintage Mercedes, fender rolls you.
Those fender lips are made of 10 gauge cold rolled tungsten from what I can tell. Have fun!


[Image: FalkonSig.png]

MFSuper90
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08-11-2014, 08:26 AM #18
(08-10-2014, 06:10 PM)DanielK In Vintage Mercedes, fender rolls you.
Those fender lips are made of 10 gauge cold rolled tungsten from what I can tell. Have fun!

My fender rolling job sure isn't the prettiest, but it wasn't that tough. I just used a old wooden baseball bat and bent the lip up.
About a 20-25 minute job Big Grin

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
08-11-2014, 08:26 AM #18

(08-10-2014, 06:10 PM)DanielK In Vintage Mercedes, fender rolls you.
Those fender lips are made of 10 gauge cold rolled tungsten from what I can tell. Have fun!

My fender rolling job sure isn't the prettiest, but it wasn't that tough. I just used a old wooden baseball bat and bent the lip up.
About a 20-25 minute job Big Grin


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

DanielK
Big Plans, No Clue

98
08-11-2014, 08:36 PM #19
Pics or it didn't happen!

[Image: FalkonSig.png]
DanielK
08-11-2014, 08:36 PM #19

Pics or it didn't happen!


[Image: FalkonSig.png]

Pomidori
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08-15-2014, 03:29 PM #20
(07-29-2014, 02:39 PM)MFSuper90 [Image: BAFD8AD5-7002-401E-9BB1-098D12C9781D_zpsxd1il0oa.jpg]

215/55r16
General gmax as-03
16x7 rims, et20 I think?

Clears fine Smile

What rims are those? They look great.
Pomidori
08-15-2014, 03:29 PM #20

(07-29-2014, 02:39 PM)MFSuper90 [Image: BAFD8AD5-7002-401E-9BB1-098D12C9781D_zpsxd1il0oa.jpg]

215/55r16
General gmax as-03
16x7 rims, et20 I think?

Clears fine Smile

What rims are those? They look great.

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
08-18-2014, 09:37 AM #21
Sorry Daniel, haven't got picture of my crappy fender rolling job yet :p

Pomidori, they are Voxx rims. No longer in production according to their website. I bought them off a fellow member on the forum a couple years ago and just got them put on.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
08-18-2014, 09:37 AM #21

Sorry Daniel, haven't got picture of my crappy fender rolling job yet :p

Pomidori, they are Voxx rims. No longer in production according to their website. I bought them off a fellow member on the forum a couple years ago and just got them put on.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

 
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