STD Tuning Drivetrain OM602 W124 5 speed?

OM602 W124 5 speed?

OM602 W124 5 speed?

 
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rdavisinva
TA 0301

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03-26-2014, 12:14 PM #1
Picked up a 1992 W124 200D with an OM602.
The drive shaft came loose and wacked the auto transmission breaking the tail housing.

Engine runs great and interior is like new, so...
Thinking of putting in a 5 speed manual and see lots of different 5 speeds for sale on eBay UK and elsewhere.

Did a quick search and saw lots of threads, but didn't find anything specific. Am thinking this is not new ground.

Will need a flywheel, clutch, 5 speed manual transmission, petal assembly for clutch master, slave cyl and lines/hose, shifter and linkage, and spedo hook up somehow.

I know the 190 sedans had 5 speeds as well and other models.

Any tips as to what to look for and how to find it?.
This post was last modified: 03-26-2014, 12:14 PM by rdavisinva.
rdavisinva
03-26-2014, 12:14 PM #1

Picked up a 1992 W124 200D with an OM602.
The drive shaft came loose and wacked the auto transmission breaking the tail housing.

Engine runs great and interior is like new, so...
Thinking of putting in a 5 speed manual and see lots of different 5 speeds for sale on eBay UK and elsewhere.

Did a quick search and saw lots of threads, but didn't find anything specific. Am thinking this is not new ground.

Will need a flywheel, clutch, 5 speed manual transmission, petal assembly for clutch master, slave cyl and lines/hose, shifter and linkage, and spedo hook up somehow.

I know the 190 sedans had 5 speeds as well and other models.

Any tips as to what to look for and how to find it?.

NapaBavarian
GT2256V

119
03-26-2014, 03:14 PM #2
190 has all parts except driveshaft, same layout.
NapaBavarian
03-26-2014, 03:14 PM #2

190 has all parts except driveshaft, same layout.

swampmonkey
hx40 super

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03-26-2014, 03:52 PM #3
get the flywheel with the transmission, some transmissions is for a single-mass flywheel, for example 717.430 and 717.411 and some mated with a dualmass 717.433 and 717.413 for example...

http://mbturbo.com/manual-transmissions/

a dual mass while give you a smoother driving/starting, if the flywheel is healthy and not starting to fall apart...

717.411 single mass
717.412 single mass
717.413 dual mass
717.430 single mass
717.431 single mass
717.432 dual mass
717.433 dual mass

other than that you want a clutch that will survive the torque of a diesel, if you get gearbox+clutch+flywheel from a diesel om602 or something beefier you could be certain that it wont slip/wear out as fast as from a 200 gasser... (if you have those in the US)

you probably have a nice high-geared differential mated to that automatic transmission, i would leave it there Smile low nice rpm while highway cruicing Smile

i dont know how it is in US regarding second-hand market of carparts, but perhaps one option would be to get a rusty dented w124 om602 with a good engine and, steal both driveline+goodies from the engine before moving it to a junkyard? option to testdrive gearbox and spares for your car as springs, alternator, starter, and injectors, doorstops and whatnot...?
This post was last modified: 03-26-2014, 03:52 PM by swampmonkey.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
03-26-2014, 03:52 PM #3

get the flywheel with the transmission, some transmissions is for a single-mass flywheel, for example 717.430 and 717.411 and some mated with a dualmass 717.433 and 717.413 for example...

http://mbturbo.com/manual-transmissions/

a dual mass while give you a smoother driving/starting, if the flywheel is healthy and not starting to fall apart...

717.411 single mass
717.412 single mass
717.413 dual mass
717.430 single mass
717.431 single mass
717.432 dual mass
717.433 dual mass

other than that you want a clutch that will survive the torque of a diesel, if you get gearbox+clutch+flywheel from a diesel om602 or something beefier you could be certain that it wont slip/wear out as fast as from a 200 gasser... (if you have those in the US)

you probably have a nice high-geared differential mated to that automatic transmission, i would leave it there Smile low nice rpm while highway cruicing Smile

i dont know how it is in US regarding second-hand market of carparts, but perhaps one option would be to get a rusty dented w124 om602 with a good engine and, steal both driveline+goodies from the engine before moving it to a junkyard? option to testdrive gearbox and spares for your car as springs, alternator, starter, and injectors, doorstops and whatnot...?


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

NapaBavarian
GT2256V

119
03-30-2014, 11:17 PM #4
Rear end is a little tall for overdrive, I had 2.65 way too tall, 2.86 I believe now, in a 190 it is great around town and at 75+ mph, hard to get into overdrive before 70. In a heavier w124 5 cylinder 3.07 would probably be a good balance point, unless you drive 80mph all the time.
NapaBavarian
03-30-2014, 11:17 PM #4

Rear end is a little tall for overdrive, I had 2.65 way too tall, 2.86 I believe now, in a 190 it is great around town and at 75+ mph, hard to get into overdrive before 70. In a heavier w124 5 cylinder 3.07 would probably be a good balance point, unless you drive 80mph all the time.

hooblah
Holset

401
04-02-2014, 02:25 PM #5
You're in luck, I have a 190d 2.5 NA 5 speed manual gearbox and flywheel lying around. I may have the clutch and shifter + linkages but I'm not sure.
I've also got the speedo cable. The diff is also available, I'm not sure what ratio it is but it's correct for the gearbox.
hooblah
04-02-2014, 02:25 PM #5

You're in luck, I have a 190d 2.5 NA 5 speed manual gearbox and flywheel lying around. I may have the clutch and shifter + linkages but I'm not sure.
I've also got the speedo cable. The diff is also available, I'm not sure what ratio it is but it's correct for the gearbox.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-09-2014, 08:24 AM #6
Dont forget to figure out your NSS.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-09-2014, 08:24 AM #6

Dont forget to figure out your NSS.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

 
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