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OM604 Turbo into a Ford Taunus

OM604 Turbo into a Ford Taunus

 
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erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-13-2014, 11:43 AM #1
Hi
Here is my new daily driver project. The car is a German Ford Taunus 1977 1.6L gasoline. Taunus never game with a diesel so I decided to make oneSmile
They only came with a R4 or V6 so I decided to use the OM604. They are easy to find and very cheap. Some say that they are not the best engine for high output since it has a bigger bore and longer stroke than the OM605/6 but we will see how much it can holdBig Grin
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The engine fit but with some mod to the oilpan. I decided to use a larger pump since it will need to supply the turbo with oil too.
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I made the pan wider to have the same amount of oil. The welding looks badTongue but I think it will hold the oil.
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Making engine mounts.
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My first plan was to use a OM606 manifold and turbo but the turbo hit the subframe and it is very small so I forgot that plan.
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Looks like it will be tight, oilpan and head hits at the same timeDodgy
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But with a little twist and straightening, it went inSmile
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The fuelpump is from a OM601 turbo and it has 6mm elements stock.
the oilfilter housing is from a OM602, the stock has a cooler and does not fit with an inline fuelpump.
any comments are welcomeSmile

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-13-2014, 11:43 AM #1

Hi
Here is my new daily driver project. The car is a German Ford Taunus 1977 1.6L gasoline. Taunus never game with a diesel so I decided to make oneSmile
They only came with a R4 or V6 so I decided to use the OM604. They are easy to find and very cheap. Some say that they are not the best engine for high output since it has a bigger bore and longer stroke than the OM605/6 but we will see how much it can holdBig Grin
[Image: DSC00708_zpse1ee02b7.jpg]
[Image: DSC00746_zpse2e8ac3f.jpg]
[Image: PB010001_zps1935aaf0.jpg]
[Image: PB010002_zpsf990cdbe.jpg]
The engine fit but with some mod to the oilpan. I decided to use a larger pump since it will need to supply the turbo with oil too.
[Image: PB130003_zps04643fd2.jpg]
[Image: PB130001_zps45b42e51.jpg]
I made the pan wider to have the same amount of oil. The welding looks badTongue but I think it will hold the oil.
[Image: PB260003_zpseb848a92.jpg]
Making engine mounts.
[Image: PB080001_zps77222a4e.jpg]
My first plan was to use a OM606 manifold and turbo but the turbo hit the subframe and it is very small so I forgot that plan.
[Image: PB090003_zps22210024.jpg]
Looks like it will be tight, oilpan and head hits at the same timeDodgy
[Image: DSC00789_zps97a1b198.jpg]
But with a little twist and straightening, it went inSmile
[Image: DSC00790_zps5d68c662.jpg]
[Image: DSC00791_zpsd347a051.jpg]
[Image: DSC00792_zps927c1196.jpg]
The fuelpump is from a OM601 turbo and it has 6mm elements stock.
the oilfilter housing is from a OM602, the stock has a cooler and does not fit with an inline fuelpump.
any comments are welcomeSmile


HuhCoolTongue

01-13-2014, 01:10 PM #2
Haha thats awesome! Myself I thinking a month ago why not build a nice 4 banger haha
Good idea with the manifold from the 606 :-) what gearbox do you use ?
Good luck to this I will follow that thread
hansebanger77
01-13-2014, 01:10 PM #2

Haha thats awesome! Myself I thinking a month ago why not build a nice 4 banger haha
Good idea with the manifold from the 606 :-) what gearbox do you use ?
Good luck to this I will follow that thread

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-15-2014, 03:30 AM #3
I made prop shaft from some w124 and Taunus parts. and installed the transmission with some homemade parts and an engine mount rubber. And installed the hydraulic clutch system from a W124 250D. Taunus has a wire operated clutch.
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The transmission is a 717.440 from a W124 95 E280 ambulance. Clutch is from same car, 240mm and 2 mass FW. I tried to install a 6 speed but it was to big, didn't want to cut the tunnel since the car has a very rust free and untouched body.
Then I installed some fuel lines and filter, a radiator(w124 250D) and it started right awaySmile
http://youtu.be/_iGMv7lzf2M

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-15-2014, 03:30 AM #3

I made prop shaft from some w124 and Taunus parts. and installed the transmission with some homemade parts and an engine mount rubber. And installed the hydraulic clutch system from a W124 250D. Taunus has a wire operated clutch.
[Image: PC090002_zps49b3a30a.jpg]

[Image: PC250035_zpse9179f00.jpg]

[Image: PC250038_zps5e3f1532.jpg]

The transmission is a 717.440 from a W124 95 E280 ambulance. Clutch is from same car, 240mm and 2 mass FW. I tried to install a 6 speed but it was to big, didn't want to cut the tunnel since the car has a very rust free and untouched body.
Then I installed some fuel lines and filter, a radiator(w124 250D) and it started right awaySmile
http://youtu.be/_iGMv7lzf2M


HuhCoolTongue

01-15-2014, 12:42 PM #4
Wow you are working really fast it fit nice and got it to runn. It's always good to have some parts at home that can be modyfight to fit on some project gods luck to the pipework:-)
hansebanger77
01-15-2014, 12:42 PM #4

Wow you are working really fast it fit nice and got it to runn. It's always good to have some parts at home that can be modyfight to fit on some project gods luck to the pipework:-)

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
01-15-2014, 01:14 PM #5
can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough
This post was last modified: 01-15-2014, 01:16 PM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
01-15-2014, 01:14 PM #5

can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-15-2014, 02:31 PM #6
(01-15-2014, 01:14 PM)JB3 can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough

It's a TauNus he is working on.. Diffrent then the TauRus :-)[/u][/b]
Duncansport
01-15-2014, 02:31 PM #6

(01-15-2014, 01:14 PM)JB3 can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough

It's a TauNus he is working on.. Diffrent then the TauRus :-)[/u][/b]

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
01-15-2014, 02:37 PM #7
(01-15-2014, 02:31 PM)Duncansport
(01-15-2014, 01:14 PM)JB3 can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough

It's a TauNus he is working on.. Diffrent then the TauRus :-)[/u][/b]

lol, you are right I see.

Oh well, still want more pics!
Taunus, Taurus, they look so close!

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
01-15-2014, 02:37 PM #7

(01-15-2014, 02:31 PM)Duncansport
(01-15-2014, 01:14 PM)JB3 can we have some more overall pics of the taurus?

strange to me, as the ford taurus in the US was a much bigger FWD sedan from the late 80s to late 90s, fascinating to see the differences.

That 77 taurus looks like an old toyota to me. Pretty darn cool

another excellent job, I see its already the same green color as the van! Big Grin Is it the same paint code? years are close enough

It's a TauNus he is working on.. Diffrent then the TauRus :-)[/u][/b]

lol, you are right I see.

Oh well, still want more pics!
Taunus, Taurus, they look so close!


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-15-2014, 03:57 PM #8
Hansebanger, I am not that fast, the job between post1 and 2 took me about 2 weeks. The pipework is going to be so so. I have a lot of room for the manifold and turbo, but 3 inch all the way back will be difficultDodgy Waiting for a HX35 that is on its way from over there before I will start.

J3B, there are some more photos here: http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/erling...77%20green
Ford Germany made the Taunus in 3 different version from 70 until 82. They are light weight ca 1000kg and very easy to work on. They were one of the most popular cars for young guys in the 80's and I had many of themBig Grin
I thought that the paint was the same as the Van but the van is more orange. This summer I was able to get the original paint for both carsSmile

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-15-2014, 03:57 PM #8

Hansebanger, I am not that fast, the job between post1 and 2 took me about 2 weeks. The pipework is going to be so so. I have a lot of room for the manifold and turbo, but 3 inch all the way back will be difficultDodgy Waiting for a HX35 that is on its way from over there before I will start.

J3B, there are some more photos here: http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/erling...77%20green
Ford Germany made the Taunus in 3 different version from 70 until 82. They are light weight ca 1000kg and very easy to work on. They were one of the most popular cars for young guys in the 80's and I had many of themBig Grin
I thought that the paint was the same as the Van but the van is more orange. This summer I was able to get the original paint for both carsSmile


HuhCoolTongue

mantahead
Holset

600
01-15-2014, 07:23 PM #9
hi,
nice project, never saw one of these cars before.
it looks like a 2 door version of the ford cortina that we got over here.
This post was last modified: 01-15-2014, 07:26 PM by mantahead.
mantahead
01-15-2014, 07:23 PM #9

hi,
nice project, never saw one of these cars before.
it looks like a 2 door version of the ford cortina that we got over here.

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
01-16-2014, 12:11 AM #10
om604?! damn that would be awesome in a hilux or tacoma Big Grin that ford almost looks like a escort. whats with the green fords there? seen a superturbodiesel van on here in green too haha

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
01-16-2014, 12:11 AM #10

om604?! damn that would be awesome in a hilux or tacoma Big Grin that ford almost looks like a escort. whats with the green fords there? seen a superturbodiesel van on here in green too haha


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
01-16-2014, 02:12 PM #11
Taunus and Cortina is the same car with different namesSmile Germany/England
HaavardPYA
01-16-2014, 02:12 PM #11

Taunus and Cortina is the same car with different namesSmile Germany/England

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
01-17-2014, 05:43 PM #12
Nice project man. But a heads up. The 601-turbo engine is from a Vito bus, right. That's a good alda on those, but the 6mm elements are no normal 6mm, they can only deliver 80-85cc of fuel. Sorry to drop that bomb on you... Great pumps otherwise with high RS-number and so on.

I made the same mistake myself, so did a 8mm swap to get some power Shy

Good luck with the build! Cool cars those old Euro-Fords.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
01-17-2014, 05:43 PM #12

Nice project man. But a heads up. The 601-turbo engine is from a Vito bus, right. That's a good alda on those, but the 6mm elements are no normal 6mm, they can only deliver 80-85cc of fuel. Sorry to drop that bomb on you... Great pumps otherwise with high RS-number and so on.

I made the same mistake myself, so did a 8mm swap to get some power Shy

Good luck with the build! Cool cars those old Euro-Fords.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-18-2014, 08:08 AM #13
(01-17-2014, 05:43 PM)F.R.A.S The 601-turbo engine is from a Vito bus, right. That's a good alda on those, but the 6mm elements are no normal 6mm, they can only deliver 80-85cc of fuel.

Thank you for adviceSmile Pump is from Vito, Yes I suspected that the pump would not give so much fuelDodgy A Vito with a 601 is not exactly a race carTongue
But it will stay there until I have a turbo that gives me more air than fuel. When that happens, a pump will probably be on its way to PP for 8.5mm elementsSmile
Some update. Fitted a belt, had to put a free wheel where the PS pump was. Installed an universal glow plug relay. Connected the stock gas wire to the pump. Made a mechanical stopping device connected to the stop handle on the pump(great to have if the pump does not return to idle) and installed the battery under the back seat, was able to put the + cable inside the subframe.
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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-18-2014, 08:08 AM #13

(01-17-2014, 05:43 PM)F.R.A.S The 601-turbo engine is from a Vito bus, right. That's a good alda on those, but the 6mm elements are no normal 6mm, they can only deliver 80-85cc of fuel.

Thank you for adviceSmile Pump is from Vito, Yes I suspected that the pump would not give so much fuelDodgy A Vito with a 601 is not exactly a race carTongue
But it will stay there until I have a turbo that gives me more air than fuel. When that happens, a pump will probably be on its way to PP for 8.5mm elementsSmile
Some update. Fitted a belt, had to put a free wheel where the PS pump was. Installed an universal glow plug relay. Connected the stock gas wire to the pump. Made a mechanical stopping device connected to the stop handle on the pump(great to have if the pump does not return to idle) and installed the battery under the back seat, was able to put the + cable inside the subframe.
[Image: P1180001_zps7b5edfcd.jpg]


HuhCoolTongue

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-25-2014, 09:45 AM #14
I have started to build the manifold. Still no turbo in the mail so I have to wait before I go any further.
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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-25-2014, 09:45 AM #14

I have started to build the manifold. Still no turbo in the mail so I have to wait before I go any further.
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HuhCoolTongue

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
02-23-2014, 11:02 AM #15
I got the turbo and also bought a smaller compressor house and wheel, but unfortunately it will not fitConfused the turbo has a 78mm OD wheel and the other wheel is 83mm OD so it will not fit the backing plate. I can machine the backing plate to make it fit, but then the stock wheel will not fit if I feel that I need the extra air flow from the bigger wheelDodgy

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So I have made some progress on my manifold. Now I need a T3 flange to finish it
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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
02-23-2014, 11:02 AM #15

I got the turbo and also bought a smaller compressor house and wheel, but unfortunately it will not fitConfused the turbo has a 78mm OD wheel and the other wheel is 83mm OD so it will not fit the backing plate. I can machine the backing plate to make it fit, but then the stock wheel will not fit if I feel that I need the extra air flow from the bigger wheelDodgy

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So I have made some progress on my manifold. Now I need a T3 flange to finish it
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HuhCoolTongue

Alcaid
TA 0301

58
02-24-2014, 01:44 PM #16
78/50mm wheel you need? Wink

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Alcaid
02-24-2014, 01:44 PM #16

78/50mm wheel you need? Wink

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erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
02-26-2014, 03:34 AM #17
WOW that is one nice looking wheelSmile I will send you a PM in Norwegian

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
02-26-2014, 03:34 AM #17

WOW that is one nice looking wheelSmile I will send you a PM in Norwegian


HuhCoolTongue

Alcaid
TA 0301

58
02-26-2014, 05:48 AM #18
Regarding T3 flange, I can really recommend this one from a Norwegian supplier:

http://hansenmotorsport.no/product.php?id_product=105

M10 threaded holes so ready for studs Smile
Alcaid
02-26-2014, 05:48 AM #18

Regarding T3 flange, I can really recommend this one from a Norwegian supplier:

http://hansenmotorsport.no/product.php?id_product=105

M10 threaded holes so ready for studs Smile

GeorgeHasmanda
Naturally-aspirated

21
03-13-2014, 05:21 AM #19
Hello,cool project Wink I have Om604 with OM601 injection pump too.How you adjustment your pump? I have timming 15 degrees ATDC.Start is no problem,but engine have hard idle and white smoke.Pump is stock from W124 200D 55kw.My OM604 have 70kw with Lucas pump.I tried adjustment pump but now ist ok,but running not perfect.Where is problem?
GeorgeHasmanda
03-13-2014, 05:21 AM #19

Hello,cool project Wink I have Om604 with OM601 injection pump too.How you adjustment your pump? I have timming 15 degrees ATDC.Start is no problem,but engine have hard idle and white smoke.Pump is stock from W124 200D 55kw.My OM604 have 70kw with Lucas pump.I tried adjustment pump but now ist ok,but running not perfect.Where is problem?

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
03-15-2014, 11:38 AM #20
I have got some more work done to my manifold. And I found a 12cm2 house for the turbo that I will use. Next now will be oil lines in and out of turbo. Does anyone know how many degrees I can tilt the turbo center house? I think I read 20 degrees somewhere?
And what about oil line restrictor? is 2mm about the right size?

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George: I don't know for sure. Maybe best to take a video and make a tread in the engine section. Hopefully someone can help you there

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
03-15-2014, 11:38 AM #20

I have got some more work done to my manifold. And I found a 12cm2 house for the turbo that I will use. Next now will be oil lines in and out of turbo. Does anyone know how many degrees I can tilt the turbo center house? I think I read 20 degrees somewhere?
And what about oil line restrictor? is 2mm about the right size?

[Image: P3150009_zpse957d026.jpg]

[Image: P3150008_zpsaa3e3a64.jpg]

George: I don't know for sure. Maybe best to take a video and make a tread in the engine section. Hopefully someone can help you there


HuhCoolTongue

mantahead
Holset

600
03-15-2014, 04:24 PM #21
i think you can go to 30 degrees, although straighter would be better, oil return inside diameter 19mm, don't think you will need oil restrictor on diesel, i think holset say 72.5psi max oil pressure.
mantahead
03-15-2014, 04:24 PM #21

i think you can go to 30 degrees, although straighter would be better, oil return inside diameter 19mm, don't think you will need oil restrictor on diesel, i think holset say 72.5psi max oil pressure.

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
03-23-2014, 07:48 AM #22
I modified my turbo, now I can have 6cm2 exhaust house on low revs and 12cm2 house on high revsSmile

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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
03-23-2014, 07:48 AM #22

I modified my turbo, now I can have 6cm2 exhaust house on low revs and 12cm2 house on high revsSmile

[Image: P3230002_zps6f4104e0.jpg]

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HuhCoolTongue

mantahead
Holset

600
03-23-2014, 05:23 PM #23
nice one Erling, you gonna use waste gate actuator?
mantahead
03-23-2014, 05:23 PM #23

nice one Erling, you gonna use waste gate actuator?

Tito
Holset

354
03-24-2014, 02:42 PM #24
Good to see someone trying that turbomod. I'm just curious how big the quick spool effect actually is.
Tito
03-24-2014, 02:42 PM #24

Good to see someone trying that turbomod. I'm just curious how big the quick spool effect actually is.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
03-25-2014, 12:24 PM #25
keep up the good work! Please take some videos when it running

Big turbo on a little engineTongue
This post was last modified: 03-25-2014, 12:26 PM by willbhere4u.
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1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-25-2014, 12:24 PM #25

keep up the good work! Please take some videos when it running

Big turbo on a little engineTongue

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1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

kristijan920
K26-2

27
05-26-2014, 07:14 AM #26
What happend with project Smile?

No boost-no fun.
kristijan920
05-26-2014, 07:14 AM #26

What happend with project Smile?


No boost-no fun.

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
11-07-2014, 10:24 AM #27
Did some work after a loooong summer holiday. The turbo is running nowBig Grin Tube from Turbo to intake is temporary until I mount an intercooler, Just want to test without first.
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Started on a 3 inch downpipe today- Will be a testdrive when I have the exhaust mountedSmile
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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
11-07-2014, 10:24 AM #27

Did some work after a loooong summer holiday. The turbo is running nowBig Grin Tube from Turbo to intake is temporary until I mount an intercooler, Just want to test without first.
[Image: 20141107_142357_zps92fe9ff1.jpg]

Started on a 3 inch downpipe today- Will be a testdrive when I have the exhaust mountedSmile
[Image: 2014-11-07115908_zps692853b3.jpg]


HuhCoolTongue

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
11-10-2014, 10:05 AM #28
Had the first test drive todaySmile It runs ok with 7psi boost but I need much more fuelTongue
http://youtu.be/Qc3r-2JCzqs

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
11-10-2014, 10:05 AM #28

Had the first test drive todaySmile It runs ok with 7psi boost but I need much more fuelTongue
http://youtu.be/Qc3r-2JCzqs


HuhCoolTongue

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
12-25-2014, 11:40 AM #29
Finished the exhaust today. 3" all the way until the muffler which is 2,75". Will hopefully not be too loadDodgy
Now I will try to see if I can fit a Bosch VE pump that can deliver enough fuel. An inline pump with big elements is off course better but a self build VE pump will be much cheaper and much more fun if I can make it workSmile
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HuhCoolTongue
erling66
12-25-2014, 11:40 AM #29

Finished the exhaust today. 3" all the way until the muffler which is 2,75". Will hopefully not be too loadDodgy
Now I will try to see if I can fit a Bosch VE pump that can deliver enough fuel. An inline pump with big elements is off course better but a self build VE pump will be much cheaper and much more fun if I can make it workSmile
[Image: 20141225_164148_zps6d71cd80.jpg]

[Image: 20141225_163703_zps71f2733e.jpg]


HuhCoolTongue

12-25-2014, 12:15 PM #30
I love the fact that you could tell people you'r runing a straight eight! Big Grin

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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
12-25-2014, 12:15 PM #30

I love the fact that you could tell people you'r runing a straight eight! Big Grin


____________________________________

'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-20-2015, 12:56 PM #31
As you all know OM604 has a crappy Lucas electronic rotor pump so I installed a Bosch M mechanical inline pump. But it did not give enough fuel for my HX35 so I could send the pump to a shop for bigger elements or do what EDH performance suggested, install a Bosch VE mechanical pump. So I decided to listen to Daniel and try to install one even when I have never seen it done to a OM604 before. Today it started with the VE pumpSmile and it looks like it can provide some fuelBig Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFX4tcuj...e=youtu.be

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-20-2015, 12:56 PM #31

As you all know OM604 has a crappy Lucas electronic rotor pump so I installed a Bosch M mechanical inline pump. But it did not give enough fuel for my HX35 so I could send the pump to a shop for bigger elements or do what EDH performance suggested, install a Bosch VE mechanical pump. So I decided to listen to Daniel and try to install one even when I have never seen it done to a OM604 before. Today it started with the VE pumpSmile and it looks like it can provide some fuelBig Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFX4tcuj...e=youtu.be


HuhCoolTongue

Alcaid
TA 0301

58
01-20-2015, 02:14 PM #32
Nice work Erling! What's done to the pump now? Piston size etc
Alcaid
01-20-2015, 02:14 PM #32

Nice work Erling! What's done to the pump now? Piston size etc

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-21-2015, 10:47 AM #33
The pump is mostly stock, it has 11mm piston. I just modified it so the governor will not cut fuel on high rpm.

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-21-2015, 10:47 AM #33

The pump is mostly stock, it has 11mm piston. I just modified it so the governor will not cut fuel on high rpm.


HuhCoolTongue

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
01-21-2015, 04:35 PM #34
sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?
sorin_cel
01-21-2015, 04:35 PM #34

sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?

Edian727
Dreams of 8mm 617

127
01-21-2015, 09:40 PM #35
looks like a vw pump? i am also curious how you mounted the VE. If you dont know cummins used a VE on their 4bt witch had a 12mm plunger and 11mm heads. this is for a 3.9l 4 cyl. with 2500 rev limiter but you can throw that vw governor on it for the rpm's.
Edian727
01-21-2015, 09:40 PM #35

looks like a vw pump? i am also curious how you mounted the VE. If you dont know cummins used a VE on their 4bt witch had a 12mm plunger and 11mm heads. this is for a 3.9l 4 cyl. with 2500 rev limiter but you can throw that vw governor on it for the rpm's.

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-22-2015, 04:46 AM #36
(01-21-2015, 04:35 PM)sorin_cel sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?

Can you post the lingk to the youtube video? do you know if it is bosch pump?
You can not use the 604 sprocket, you need the 2.9L adapter and sprocket

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-22-2015, 04:46 AM #36

(01-21-2015, 04:35 PM)sorin_cel sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?

Can you post the lingk to the youtube video? do you know if it is bosch pump?
You can not use the 604 sprocket, you need the 2.9L adapter and sprocket


HuhCoolTongue

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
01-22-2015, 10:21 AM #37
(01-22-2015, 04:46 AM)erling66
(01-21-2015, 04:35 PM)sorin_cel sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?

Can you post the lingk to the youtube video? do you know if it is bosch pump?
You can not use the 604 sprocket, you need the 2.9L adapter and sprocket

http://youtu.be/r5VQ_LWd4gw
http://youtu.be/ueEul9a2Kz8
Probably this Smile
Petar
01-22-2015, 10:21 AM #37

(01-22-2015, 04:46 AM)erling66
(01-21-2015, 04:35 PM)sorin_cel sounds like a VW now.Smile also it is a video on youtube with a om604 running with a VE pump.

may i ask if the VE pump rotor shaft, fitted straight to the original om604 sprocket?

Can you post the lingk to the youtube video? do you know if it is bosch pump?
You can not use the 604 sprocket, you need the 2.9L adapter and sprocket

http://youtu.be/r5VQ_LWd4gw
http://youtu.be/ueEul9a2Kz8
Probably this Smile

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-24-2015, 04:23 AM #38
Pump is ready for test driveSmile
[Image: 20150124_092909_zpsc68445d0.jpg]

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-24-2015, 04:23 AM #38

Pump is ready for test driveSmile
[Image: 20150124_092909_zpsc68445d0.jpg]


HuhCoolTongue

Ksteen2
Holset

304
01-27-2015, 07:22 PM #39
cool car, awesome work you have done to it!
would like to see that in real life Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
01-27-2015, 07:22 PM #39

cool car, awesome work you have done to it!
would like to see that in real life Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
01-29-2015, 02:27 PM #40
exactly Petar.those are the links.

thanks for information erling.
sorin_cel
01-29-2015, 02:27 PM #40

exactly Petar.those are the links.

thanks for information erling.

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
01-31-2015, 03:23 PM #41
(01-27-2015, 07:22 PM)Ksteen2 cool car, awesome work you have done to it!
would like to see that in real life Wink

Thanks kent, come for a visit when you are in the areaSmile
Had a short test drive today in the snow. A few things work fine with the new pump(Bosch VE), easy to start, nice idle, but the injectors make more noise on low revs(disappear around 2000rpm)than M pump. don't know whyHuh
and on higher revs there are no powerConfused I suspect the pump does not get enough fuel so I will try to install a meter to see.

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
01-31-2015, 03:23 PM #41

(01-27-2015, 07:22 PM)Ksteen2 cool car, awesome work you have done to it!
would like to see that in real life Wink

Thanks kent, come for a visit when you are in the areaSmile
Had a short test drive today in the snow. A few things work fine with the new pump(Bosch VE), easy to start, nice idle, but the injectors make more noise on low revs(disappear around 2000rpm)than M pump. don't know whyHuh
and on higher revs there are no powerConfused I suspect the pump does not get enough fuel so I will try to install a meter to see.


HuhCoolTongue

Ksteen2
Holset

304
02-04-2015, 12:49 PM #42
Yeah, I will do, maybe I take my 606 powerd Volvo 945 down

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
02-04-2015, 12:49 PM #42

Yeah, I will do, maybe I take my 606 powerd Volvo 945 down


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
04-14-2015, 06:47 AM #43
Tested the car again today. Much more power now Big Grin  and it even makes boost in neutral as you can see in the video(exhaust pressure on left) Not bad for a HX35 on a OM604 Smile
But the injector noise is quite bad on low revs(disappear on higher revs) Anyone knows how to solve that problem?
https://youtu.be/S_sGm0cyU3w

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
04-14-2015, 06:47 AM #43

Tested the car again today. Much more power now Big Grin  and it even makes boost in neutral as you can see in the video(exhaust pressure on left) Not bad for a HX35 on a OM604 Smile
But the injector noise is quite bad on low revs(disappear on higher revs) Anyone knows how to solve that problem?
https://youtu.be/S_sGm0cyU3w


HuhCoolTongue

rolfts
K26-2

38
04-14-2015, 08:22 AM #44
(04-14-2015, 06:47 AM)erling66 Hej, you Need a dynamic advance device on your VE. Located on the botom right of your pump there should be a hardline going to it Comming from the top front aposed to your fuel in line.
rolfts
04-14-2015, 08:22 AM #44

(04-14-2015, 06:47 AM)erling66 Hej, you Need a dynamic advance device on your VE. Located on the botom right of your pump there should be a hardline going to it Comming from the top front aposed to your fuel in line.

iDiesel
Naturally-aspirated

13
08-14-2018, 04:54 PM #45
Old topic,but can you tell me,from what you took the ve-pump?I was thinking about golf mk2 turbo ve pump,but the shaft is smaller..
iDiesel
08-14-2018, 04:54 PM #45

Old topic,but can you tell me,from what you took the ve-pump?I was thinking about golf mk2 turbo ve pump,but the shaft is smaller..

Fishman
GTA2056V

92
08-15-2018, 10:53 AM #46
(08-14-2018, 04:54 PM)iDiesel Old topic,but can you tell me,from what you took the ve-pump?I was thinking about golf mk2 turbo ve pump,but the shaft is smaller..

LandRover TDI has big shaft.
Fishman
08-15-2018, 10:53 AM #46

(08-14-2018, 04:54 PM)iDiesel Old topic,but can you tell me,from what you took the ve-pump?I was thinking about golf mk2 turbo ve pump,but the shaft is smaller..

LandRover TDI has big shaft.

 
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