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Anybody else hate Chrysler products?

Anybody else hate Chrysler products?

 
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sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-07-2013, 03:24 PM #1
Because I sure as hell do now. My dad's '01 Ram 1500 in addition to needing new heads, crank position sensor, and paint, now needs a new throwout bearing, which means probably everything clutch related at the same time. And I'm sure if I thought about it for a while I could think of some other things wrong with it

Oh yeah the dash exploded one day while driving, and the several hundred pieces are now held together with duct tape.

Oh yeah and half of the front bumper fell off one day for no apparent reason
This post was last modified: 11-07-2013, 03:26 PM by sassparilla_kid.

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-07-2013, 03:24 PM #1

Because I sure as hell do now. My dad's '01 Ram 1500 in addition to needing new heads, crank position sensor, and paint, now needs a new throwout bearing, which means probably everything clutch related at the same time. And I'm sure if I thought about it for a while I could think of some other things wrong with it


Oh yeah the dash exploded one day while driving, and the several hundred pieces are now held together with duct tape.

Oh yeah and half of the front bumper fell off one day for no apparent reason


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
11-07-2013, 03:33 PM #2
I like the 5.9 cummins but its a million mile motor in a 100k mile truck vs fords 1 million mile truck with the 100k mile power joke

I would still take either over a Chevy any day of the week
This post was last modified: 11-07-2013, 03:33 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-07-2013, 03:33 PM #2

I like the 5.9 cummins but its a million mile motor in a 100k mile truck vs fords 1 million mile truck with the 100k mile power joke

I would still take either over a Chevy any day of the week


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-07-2013, 04:02 PM #3
Fullsize-get a Chevy but not the ones that require you to pull the hubs for a brake job. The new(2011) Silverado is a dream to work on I can sit in the engine bay.

Fords are nice too, except for the damn F150 has the engine half under the dash and is a bitch to work on. Plastic intake manifold? Yeah that's a good idea....

Chrysler gets really close but then the cost accounting kills them. Wifey's I6-awesome engine, one year they decided to lightweight the head. Bam, cracks on ALL 2001 I6 heads at around 90k. 4wd with solid axles, NP transfer case, 4link, awesome!! But let's put a stamped steel dana35 rear axle that bends when you look at it.

We need better emissions! Add an egr? Reprogram the ecu? Maybe a new cam design? Spec a 210°F thermostat to keep it hot hot hot....aaaand... let's stuff 2 cats literally 4 inches under the intake manifold and then add 5 heat shields to keep from setting the fuel rail on fire. Modern car that gets vapor locked on hot days. GJ Chrysler.

MMMM big SUV=under hood space? Let's tuck the steering box, radiator, trans cooler together with 1/2" clearance for wrenches. now there's plenty of visual space under the hood! If they had moved the radiator over 2", or just put the lower hose on the passenger side this would not be an issue.

Electric fan? Great! I won't overheat while spinning 3,500rpm in 4 low while wheeling. Let's put a cheapo under-rated relay BETWEEN THE HEADLIGHT AND FENDER LINER SO IT OVERHEATS AND FAILS.
While we're at it, don't change the fan shroud-we can't afford new molds so just leave the extra 5" of plastic to get in the way while doing the water pump for a 1" thick electric fan.

But then the good stuff...easy good cheap brakes, reusable trans pan gaskets, 4link suspension front & rear, easy dash to disassemble for radio/heated seat stuff, super easy headlight/tail light maintenance, oil changes are a dream-no jacks required even with stock wheels/suspension.

I love the Jeep, it's a great ride and has plenty of powah, but some things really piss me off while working on it.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-07-2013, 04:02 PM #3

Fullsize-get a Chevy but not the ones that require you to pull the hubs for a brake job. The new(2011) Silverado is a dream to work on I can sit in the engine bay.

Fords are nice too, except for the damn F150 has the engine half under the dash and is a bitch to work on. Plastic intake manifold? Yeah that's a good idea....

Chrysler gets really close but then the cost accounting kills them. Wifey's I6-awesome engine, one year they decided to lightweight the head. Bam, cracks on ALL 2001 I6 heads at around 90k. 4wd with solid axles, NP transfer case, 4link, awesome!! But let's put a stamped steel dana35 rear axle that bends when you look at it.

We need better emissions! Add an egr? Reprogram the ecu? Maybe a new cam design? Spec a 210°F thermostat to keep it hot hot hot....aaaand... let's stuff 2 cats literally 4 inches under the intake manifold and then add 5 heat shields to keep from setting the fuel rail on fire. Modern car that gets vapor locked on hot days. GJ Chrysler.

MMMM big SUV=under hood space? Let's tuck the steering box, radiator, trans cooler together with 1/2" clearance for wrenches. now there's plenty of visual space under the hood! If they had moved the radiator over 2", or just put the lower hose on the passenger side this would not be an issue.

Electric fan? Great! I won't overheat while spinning 3,500rpm in 4 low while wheeling. Let's put a cheapo under-rated relay BETWEEN THE HEADLIGHT AND FENDER LINER SO IT OVERHEATS AND FAILS.
While we're at it, don't change the fan shroud-we can't afford new molds so just leave the extra 5" of plastic to get in the way while doing the water pump for a 1" thick electric fan.

But then the good stuff...easy good cheap brakes, reusable trans pan gaskets, 4link suspension front & rear, easy dash to disassemble for radio/heated seat stuff, super easy headlight/tail light maintenance, oil changes are a dream-no jacks required even with stock wheels/suspension.

I love the Jeep, it's a great ride and has plenty of powah, but some things really piss me off while working on it.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-07-2013, 04:08 PM #4
Yeah this truck is the 3.9 V6, which sucks, because for all the 8- cylinder models you can get beefier Mopar performance heads that don't crack, but not the stupid 6-cylinder

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-07-2013, 04:08 PM #4

Yeah this truck is the 3.9 V6, which sucks, because for all the 8- cylinder models you can get beefier Mopar performance heads that don't crack, but not the stupid 6-cylinder


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-07-2013, 07:23 PM #5
(11-07-2013, 04:08 PM)sassparilla_kid Yeah this truck is the 3.9 V6, which sucks, because for all the 8- cylinder models you can get beefier Mopar performance heads that don't crack, but not the stupid 6-cylinder

4.0L I6 2003-2004 would be the easiest swap

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-07-2013, 07:23 PM #5

(11-07-2013, 04:08 PM)sassparilla_kid Yeah this truck is the 3.9 V6, which sucks, because for all the 8- cylinder models you can get beefier Mopar performance heads that don't crack, but not the stupid 6-cylinder

4.0L I6 2003-2004 would be the easiest swap


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-07-2013, 07:39 PM #6
Would it bolt right up or what? Also I suspect it wouldn't just be plug and play with all the electronics and mating them up to the computer in the car

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-07-2013, 07:39 PM #6

Would it bolt right up or what? Also I suspect it wouldn't just be plug and play with all the electronics and mating them up to the computer in the car


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-07-2013, 10:18 PM #7
6 cyl, 6 cyl....the trans and motor mounts would be the determining factor.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-07-2013, 10:18 PM #7

6 cyl, 6 cyl....the trans and motor mounts would be the determining factor.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
11-08-2013, 10:59 AM #8
He'll with it, put a cummins in it

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
11-08-2013, 10:59 AM #8

He'll with it, put a cummins in it


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
11-08-2013, 11:50 AM #9
4bt would be just about perfect it's also a 3.9
This post was last modified: 11-08-2013, 11:51 AM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-08-2013, 11:50 AM #9

4bt would be just about perfect it's also a 3.9


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-08-2013, 01:03 PM #10
If I could find one from a vehicle newer than the truck I would in a heartbeat because it would be legal in California

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-08-2013, 01:03 PM #10

If I could find one from a vehicle newer than the truck I would in a heartbeat because it would be legal in California


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-08-2013, 01:11 PM #11
Seriously research the 4.0L. It's no race motor, but it moves the Heep around just fine. It's got to be better than the crappy v6 (no offense)

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-08-2013, 01:11 PM #11

Seriously research the 4.0L. It's no race motor, but it moves the Heep around just fine. It's got to be better than the crappy v6 (no offense)


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-08-2013, 01:23 PM #12
I hate the v6, and I'm totally down for an engine swap in this beast, but due to CARB regulations engine swaps in California are only legal on smog exempt vehicles (pre-74 or 76 or something) or the engine has to be swapped in from a newer model vehicle with all of its emissions components.

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-08-2013, 01:23 PM #12

I hate the v6, and I'm totally down for an engine swap in this beast, but due to CARB regulations engine swaps in California are only legal on smog exempt vehicles (pre-74 or 76 or something) or the engine has to be swapped in from a newer model vehicle with all of its emissions components.


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-08-2013, 03:20 PM #13
(11-08-2013, 01:23 PM)sassparilla_kid I hate the v6, and I'm totally down for an engine swap in this beast, but due to CARB regulations engine swaps in California are only legal on smog exempt vehicles (pre-74 or 76 or something) or the engine has to be swapped in from a newer model vehicle with all of its emissions components.

They used the I6 on 2004 Chrystlers...does that count?

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-08-2013, 03:20 PM #13

(11-08-2013, 01:23 PM)sassparilla_kid I hate the v6, and I'm totally down for an engine swap in this beast, but due to CARB regulations engine swaps in California are only legal on smog exempt vehicles (pre-74 or 76 or something) or the engine has to be swapped in from a newer model vehicle with all of its emissions components.

They used the I6 on 2004 Chrystlers...does that count?


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-08-2013, 03:24 PM #14
Yeah it just has to be newer. I should just find a newer diesel and put in it, it needs more diesel

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-08-2013, 03:24 PM #14

Yeah it just has to be newer. I should just find a newer diesel and put in it, it needs more diesel


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

 
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